Evil Apple's patent infringement of Nokia cost them

It happens to all of them. The jury is still out on the Windows 7
Smartphone. But, the leaves n my teacup say it will suffer the same fate.

 

same company.
same ideas.
same management.

URLs, and you'll see that Apple plugs these holes.

Well, if you rate storefront and automatic updating (kinda hard
to do on systems that are more open, and for 3rd parties) at over
21% for low price products and even more for high price products
.... and let's not forget services and co, which are not included
in the AppStore.

That would be incredibly wise for Apple.

Bin Laden simply had some guys learn how to fly big planes.

Watch me not care for your sky, but "I told you so".

-Wolfgang

 

Not thanks to Microsoft ("embrace and extend"), and too bad
because it spoils the "Windows world out there" argument.

-Wolfgang

 

xbox
kin
bob
windows phone 7
vista

they must all be the same.

ironically, windows phone 7 is about as restrictive than iphone
(actually a little more so) is but nobody seems to notice or care.

they're not holes, they're supported methods.

companies can deploy their own software via enterprise deployment, and
of course, app developers can install their own apps on their own
devices as well as for beta testers, before they ever make to the
store, if they do at all. html5 web apps do not go through the store
and they can even be stored locally (no internet needed once
downloaded).

 

I don't really care if my wrench is "elegant" as long as it turns the
nut.

Most people don't give a rat's ass if their computer is "a quite elegant
system", only if it does what they need to do.

And that's the big problem with all MacTribesmen, you care more about
the tool than the job.

 

for windows home, maybe, but not for windows ultimate which is a closer
match to what os x offers.

os x is just $29, plus os x is not oem. you get full support for that
$29. more importantly, mac os x lion is $29 for *all* computers a
person controls, however many that may be.

 

go read some of the user studies, or try handling tech support calls.

the advantages of simplicity are surely pretty obvious, or at least
they should be.

who cares what some opine. look at the actual facts.

apple's sales have consistently outpaced the market for several years
and even increased when the market itself shrank.

so right-click. either way works. having a choice is good.

the point is that a right-click is not the only way to do something on
a mac, and it's often *slower* than other methods.

wrong. macs shipped with a four button mouse until recently, now it's a
touch based multi-button gesture mouse or a multi-touch gesture based
trackpad.

if either of those is not to your liking, replace it with a $3 usb
mouse.

as i said before, macs have supported multiple buttons for years but
not that many users cared. it's largely the windows switchers who want
the second button since that's all they know.

mac os does not require a second button. this is a concept that a lot
of windows users just can't grasp.

 

maybe you'll learn something and see what the fuss is about. it's *not*
a windows-only world.

 

there is a 5 user limit for the current snow leopard family pack.

for os x lion, it's $29.99 for as many computers as you control.

in other words, it just got cheaper.

 

sure there is, you don't need to buy a new mac to run lion. apple gets
$29 total, regardless of how many macs there are. apple also doesn't
get any money if someone buys a used mac on which to run it.

plus few people care about building computers and i don't know anyone
who builds laptops, which is where the bulk of sales are for apple and
the way the industry itself is moving.

that microsoft mouse works great on a mac, by the way.

 

Wrong! Ever since 2005 Apple has provided a two button mouse, before
that third party mice and TrackBalls provided the right button so
beloved of the Windows community.[/QUOTE]

actually apple's mouse was four buttons.

the third party option has been around for roughly 25 years for those
who wanted it. not that many cared until recently, namely ex-windows
users.

 

No, it's $29 for all computers that you already paid Apple anywhere from
$699 on up to many thousands for.

 

I never had to use the mouse button to scroll left and right (up and
down too) until I had a mighty mouse
before that I had to go to the window and drag the bar from left-
right /up/down......

 

Not sure your estimate is correct though.
But I'm not sure you should count no working computers.

You might learn something, frightening I know, if some one came to you
and asked
you what the best program is for editing movies or editing pictures
I'm sure you'd perfer
to give then balanced and correct information.
If you don't know about Final Cut Pro or Logic or Aperture or
photoshop
Talking of Which Photoshop first appeared on the Apple Mac not on a
PC.

Some call, it getting a clue.
Telling me I can't run your Microsoft Applications on my Mac is WRONG.
I bet I can run any app that you can run and I bet it'll run faster
and more reliably.
I can also run Mac apps at the same time too.
If you don;t know things like this then you should advise people to
buy a computer until you do
as you'll be giving them incorrect information. One of the most
important things about giving advice
is knowing what you're talking about and with computers is keep up to
date.

If you prefer to stay in the 80s because windows of 3.0
but photoshop came out on the Mac before if appeared on the windows
platform
3 or 4 years before. So telling photographers to buy PCs wouldn't have
been a good move.

If the generic PCs are so great then how come Apple are doing so well
or did so well
at selling expensive computers that didn't run windows, think about
it.

 

No they don;t but they have little choice, I think everyone would run
their car(s) on water given the chance.

So still 3 times the cost and how many computers can it be installed
on legally ?
Can you explain the advantages or your method.
How many PCs do you say you have, I hope you'll be buying a separate
copy
for each PC you want to install it on.

I agree but you are not everyone, why advise someone to buy a PC when
they can print photos
or documents, do email, edit pictures and movies, surf the web, buy
things on-line
when they can do it all on their phone.

Me too, but when it comes to advising others not everyone needs a
computer or a gun.
For the vast majority of tasks the average user wishes to do a PC or
Mac will be sufficient.
A Mac will allow you to do anything whether it be windows or Mac OS a
PC will only allow you to run windows.
Macs are not more expensive than PCs because you can get 'PCs' of
lower quality and spec.
Apple do not make such low quality/low spec computers.
Even Dell, HP and others sell ranges of computers according to
use.....
it's just Apple don;t start with such low specs that it all.
There are other differences such as reliability which can be
difficult to gauge.

I prefer using them, I can understand the thrill of building them we
do that here.
But building 10s 20- and even 50s at a time... well the novelty wears
off pretty quickly.
And of course because of that we experience more problems than you
probbaly do.

 

I wonder if Neil actually buys a new copy of Windows every-time he
builds a new PC.
That would certainly take a lot of the fun out of it for me.

<cough> IF I could get Lion to run on my Macplus, SE 30, Mac LC475, G3
iMac
Mac G3 tower, the G4 tower and the G5 iMac I will.
But I think I'll just install it on my Mac mini and my main iMac .
What I am wondering is legally could I buy a new iMac once Lion is
supplied
could I use that 'Lion' and install it on other computers.
I'm guessing no.

 

Talkign of two button well macs had one button before PC mice had any
buttons.

The first Macintosh was introduced on January 24, 1984; it was the
first commercially successful personal computer to feature a mouse and
a graphical user interface rather than a command-line interface

Here on my PC the right click can.... ZIPs files and folders
can open, close, copy, paste, rename, delete or convert to PDF...
so what's this standard 'one right button for information' have to do
with it.

Remember it's PC user that went over to windows after it appeared on
the Mac not before.
GUI was then seen as the way forward although there were other
implementations of a GUI
by others but they didn't have such things as drag-able windows which
could overlap
I remember typing out command lines on an old xerox System to create a
window at location X

 

me upgrading my old Aples with the lastest sorftare without me having
to pay for it.

Yes and each and everyone comes with the OS free.

They will 'loose' as people currently upgrade their Mac to the latest
OS.
Just as PC users do, but if a PC users of XP want to upgrade his PCs
to windows 7 it costs them $100
per computer to do it legally, with the Mac it's $30 for 5 or how
many you're household has.

yes, so MS are making $100 every time you build a PC and put windows
on it.
Is that really a bargain ?

I can install and copy any of the current Mac OSs with out any
problems there's
no activation or serial No. to type in, Apple don;t check to see if
the OS is legal
or not.

Well I wouldn't want Apple charging me for building my own computer.

 

I prefer my nuts turned by attractive things ;-)

That's true the same can be said of cars, but loads of people by cars
for more the the fact of getting from A to B.

Good workman are proud of their tools.

 

Almost true. They take care of them so they help produce a product.
I could pick up the finest violin, or sit down in front of the best
Steinway. The resulting music would be equally lousy.