Does that mean Nikon's auto-photo mode is illegal?

Where in the published reports does it say "He did not ask
about installing any software"? URL, please.

Ok, so it's *not* a protected computer. It's a completely
unprotected computer. How can one commit "unauthorized access to
protected computers" when the computers in question are completely
unprotected --- so unprotected that they need to be wiped and
reimaged every night?

(Apart from the fact that I'd just use a writeable (COW) snapshot
and drop the snapshot and set up a new one whenever I want a
pristine state ...)

Then how could he commit "Computer fraud"?
Your own claims show he didn't.

What part of "necessary" did you not understand, so that you
start with "however" and disagree with the truth?

1. Borrowing is one form of using equipment one doesn't own.
2. How would you describe his computer use?

-Wolfgang

 

nobody ever said they were necessary for all of us to use. there you go
again, twisting things.

 

read what you wrote. you said the same thing!

obviously if you lose the dispute you have to pay. does everything need
to be spelled out for you?

the original claim was not being able to stop payment on a debit card.
that's wrong. it's very easy to do.

 

You don't see a difference between "you don't have to pay" and "you
don't have to pay unless you lose the dispute"?

How do you stop payment on a debit card? The money is deducted from
your account. That's payment.

If you dispute it, and win, you may get the money back but you have
not been able to stop payment. The money was removed from your
account.

In a credit card dispute, you don't have to pay the disputed amount
until the dispute is resolved in the other party's favor.

I know you get a lot of income from your airport survey reports, but
some people just can't afford to be without a disputed amount until
the process is resolved. They can incur other costs and problems in
the meantime.

 

I think it's a bit significant. I'm fortunate in not living
hand-to-mouth financially, but many people are not so fortunate. An
unexpected withdrawal of a couple of hundred bucks from their account
due to an error or fraud could be very significant. It can mean the
difference between bounced checks and the resultant fees and the
ability to make a car, mortgage, or rent payment. Again, fees will
result and the problem compounds.

I think it the problems are more significant in the low income group
because they may be able to qualify for a debit card but not qualify
for a credit card or their credit card can be maxxed out.

 

he said he asked the guard about taking photos. he did not say he asked
about installing software.

that doesn't mean he has free reign over them. they aren't his
computers.

if you see an unattended car with the keys in the ignition, you don't
have the right to take it for a drive. 'it wasn't locked and no alarm
went off" isn't going to work.

the computers in the store are not his. he does not own them. apple
doesn't go out of their way to block installs because a lot of people
like to test their favourite apps to see how well they run on a
particular mac.

this guy went *well* beyond that. he installed his software every day,
after the machines were reimaged overnight, on computers he did not
own, using them for his own personal gain.

 

yep, i said that. on a debit card the money is withdrawn and later
refunded. very simple.

then they shouldn't be living outside their means.

 

Wow. That cashier you bully about not adhering to the merchant
agreement who uses her debit card and the transaction goes through for
$200 instead of $20, and then can't make her car payment on time and
gets whacked with a late payment is in trouble because she's living
beyond her means, eh? The $180 may be refunded to her, but not the
late fee.

 

I was commenting on the conditions in 1979 when I went there.
American firms were not selling directly to Cuba then. Forget the
law, it would have been a public relations disaster for any firm to
have been caught doing so.

The average American's attitude has softened considerably over the
years. Most Americans would favor normalizing relations. The hard
core supporters of the embargo are Cuban-Americans. They wield a lot
of political clout.

American medical-related firms have long been selling their products
to Mexican and Canadian distributors, and these distributors then sell
to Cuba.

Good idea. We took about two dozen tee shirts with us to Kenya for
the same reason. We have a friend who owns a screen printing company
and he gave us rejects from some of his runs. The shirts were
immensely popular and no one complained about the printing flaws.

 

Dive skins are not the same as a wet suit, although they are helpful
in coldish water because the water trapped between the skin and the
wearer's skin warms quickly. Skins are made of Lycra (not nylon) and
very easy to get on. Unlike a wet suit, they are comfortable out of
the water and very wearable in tropic conditions on the boat.

Here's me in a skin handling a ray in Sting Ray City, Cayman Islands:

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f244/cooper213/skins.jpg

 

As even you pointed out there s a difference between "stop" and
"dispute." Aside from what Tony Cooper has pointed out, if I win the
dispute: with stop payment on a credit card I do not have to pay; With
a debit card, I have to hope the shoddy merchant is still in business,
or doesn't file a Bankruptcy petition for 90 days after I get paid.

 

Only if the merchant is still in business.

 

I do not disagree with you at all, on that point. I forgot my sarcastic
tag on my comment.

 

What about fraud? Not having a debit card, I'm not up on the terms
and conditions.

If someone finds a fraudulent way to use my credit card to buy an
expensive Canon camera from a store, I can win a dispute by proving 1)
I was not in the town where the camera was purchased, 2) the signature
is not mine, or, 3) by proving I'm a Nikon person. The money never
leaves my bank account.

If I had a debit card, and that card was used fraudulently, the charge
would immediately be removed from my bank account. If I win the
dispute, who reimburses me?

 

Cite?

 

I'm talking widespread use in the US: relatively new.

You might as well claim digital photography is fifty years old, based on
early private and gov't work.

 

Me

 

How do you cite a reference for something you hope will or won't
happen?

 

Ummmm... are you familiar with Dilbert?

 

The similarity has been pointed out before. I should comb my hair
with Photoshop.