DNC and Minister failing in there duty.

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    Anony Mouse Guest

    Anony Mouse, Sep 8, 2006
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    Vista Guest

    I think you are way off the mark. I could purchase a domain and redirect it
    to any website I wanted in the world. Your complaint doesn't have anything
    to do with the domain registrar, and I suggest you read the DNC policies, as
    you don't appear to have an understanding of what a domain name is, and the
    associated policies. You infact need to complain to the companies that are
    hosting the websites if you are receiving spam.
     
    Vista, Sep 8, 2006
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    elephanto05 Guest

    I too think you may be a little confused.

    The email from Stuart clearly sets out what you need to do.

    1. Make a formal complaint (maybe even run spelling and grammar check
    on it) to the domain registrar. Make the registrar aware of the false
    registration info.
    2. If the registrar does not correct the problem then report the
    registrar to the Domain Name Commisioner for not following the rules.

    Make sure you note times and dates of all correspondence and telephone
    calls to support your claim (ie: you gave them fair time to get thier
    client in order) before making the complaint.

    As far as legaility goes I personally don't see it as the registars or
    the DNCs problem. For that I think you should contact Internal Affairs
    (I guess) and report the websites. If they are operating out of NZ
    then perhaps they can action something.

    Finally, it seems to me that complaining to the Domain Name Commisioner
    about spammers and persciptive med sellers would be like me writing a
    letter to the Prime Ministers office regarding my neighbours body
    odour. You have to complain to the right people to get things done.
     
    elephanto05, Sep 8, 2006
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    Vista Guest

    Good advice. I think he may have already got offsite with some of the
    parties involved after viewing stuarts email, due to the agressive tone of
    Anonys correspondance to them.
     
    Vista, Sep 8, 2006
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    Anony Mouse Guest

    No. Right on in fact.
    I could purchase a domain and redirect it
    Sell drugs on it and you would be arrested.
    Your complaint doesn't have anything
    Yes it does. They are complicit end of story.
    and I suggest you read the DNC policies,
    I don't care what they say they have a responsibility to act when told.
    Whether it is moral or legal.
    as
    Perhaps you can tell me. Tell me what would happen if I reg'ed
    nzviagra.co.nz
    and the
    Yeh right
    You infact need to complain to the companies that are
    You have little knowledge in that area obviously.
    Do your research. Presrciption drugs kill.
    Brainless people who sit around and do nothing get nothing but contempt.
     
    Anony Mouse, Sep 8, 2006
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    Anony Mouse Guest

    So a complaint was made. Sheesh
    Or just sit and do nothing as is the case.
    The info on spam.co.nz has been there since January.
    And that would be you I guess as you seem to know everything.
     
    Anony Mouse, Sep 8, 2006
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    Anony Mouse Guest

    Do you approve of these people doing nothing to stop the sale of this
    sort of stuff? It sounds like you do.

    So much to say with such little knowledge.
    At least I am trying to close the domains.
    You two on the other hand do nothing but make stupid suggestions.
     
    Anony Mouse, Sep 8, 2006
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    Alan Guest

    Hi,

    Clearly you feel strongly about this, and I applaud that.

    If you want to actually get some results, then my suggestion would be
    that you try contacting the NZ medical authority (whatever that may
    be). If those sites are indeed selling their "medicines" in NZ
    without a license then presumably they are breaking the law?

    If so, then I imagine that the medical authorities would be best
    placed to deal with that.

    If they also sell them in overseas jurisdictions then you could
    contact those too (e.g. Aussie, UK, ... etc).

    I suspect that you will have to show that they are either actively
    marketing in each jurisdition, or that an actual sale has taken place
    there (probably delivery address in that location). You could buy
    some yourself I suppose! I doubt that the mere existence of a website
    will count as actively marketing, but you never know. In some
    jurisdictions it may be quite legal to market, but illegal to sell -
    you'd have to check.

    Your initial approach might or might not be technically correct, but
    if you want to get results, you need to do what is most effective and
    I would suspect that your first attempt won't get you very far in
    stopping them from actually doing the damage you believe they are.

    Good luck!

    Alan.


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    Vista Guest

    There are right and wrong ways of doing things. Obviously you are very
    passionate about getting them closed down, which is fair enough , but you
    may want to source the legal advice from the Citizens Advice Bureau, as to
    the correct process to follow.
     
    Vista, Sep 8, 2006
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    Anony Mouse Guest

    Read the response to Alan's post you may start to understand.
    As for process. I have helped create some of those "processes".
    ICANN registrar agreements and the wdprs system.
    You really should stick to the main point.
    More people need to tell the govt they disapprove of .nz domains selling
    prescription drugs then they may will act.

    Otherwise what is the point of me dealing to people like Shane Atkinson
    and indirectly Mike Van Essen and Eye Five. In 2004 they were the scum
    in everybodies inboxes. I have not targeted the three domains for no
    reason. They are directly related to the scum that is still in NZ and
    still very active in the gang. Why do you think they are targeting NZ
    because I can tell you right now. It has a lot to do with my activities.

    Sorry if I am a bit abrasive but I have been at these sort of issues for
    a long time. I have no patient with most people now days unless they
    make valid points and are very polite.

    Here is something I send to people from time to time...
    Note the virus name and I have even left it unmunged.
    I do know who sent this and I did tracked him when he made death threats
    against me by phone. it is very rellevant to the doc I put up.

    Regards
    Peter
    I aint really Anony Mouse at all
    its just a nick. Mostly I don't come
    out unless I have a point to make.
    Like me or not I am still one of the
    most effect people at what I do in NZ.

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    Anony Mouse, Sep 8, 2006
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    Anony Mouse Guest

    Watching the news re: The strike.

    The Watersider's are standing up. Others are following.

    The phase "Social Responsibility" was mentioned.

    Is this not very valid with regards to my post.

    Anony Mouse
     
    Anony Mouse, Sep 8, 2006
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    Philip Guest

    Anony Mouse wrote:

    (snip much)
    I am sorry to read of your illness. But the reality is that you do need
    to check, or have someone check for you, the spelling and grammar of
    your submissions. Most people who see a message containing bad spelling
    and grammar will dismiss it as a rant, and delete it. In particular,
    public officials and lawyers will want to ignore badly spelt, badly
    phrased and badly written messages. Presentation is much more important
    than you think.

    I disagree with your argument that domain name registrars can be held
    responsible to the actions of the owners of domains within their registry.

    That is like making the post office responsible for the behavior of
    people that live in houses they deliver the post to.

    Philip
     
    Philip, Sep 8, 2006
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    Anony Mouse Guest

    What spelling are you referring to. Some of it, the part from Craig's
    site , is not my doing. Unfortunately spam fighting does not pay well.

    The point of the post is to show that the DNC and the Minister have no
    social responsibility. Do you?

    As for your comment on the post office I think you will find that they
    do check the mail for drugs so again your argument is wrong.

    As for being dismissed. Oh well I can only do want I am capable of.
    I do not see anyone doing anything real apart Craig and don't say
    Consumer Affair or the Commerce Commission they are only reactionary not
    proactive.

    Most people are not even capable of defending their computer from
    themselves never mind the criminal spam/scam gangs that I have been
    tracking and taunting for years.

    Really though, unless you stand up your comments fall on my deaf ears.
    No disrespect intended there is just nothing I can do about it other
    than run a spell checker which I do not always do.

    It does piss me off as my writing and grammar skills where no to bad.

    Anony Mouse
     
    Anony Mouse, Sep 8, 2006
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    Anony Mouse Guest

    By the way the page was run through the spell checker and proof read
    many times. It took a long time to write by due to the nature of the
    affliction I can not pick up all the mistake I make whether they be due
    to the disconnect of brain from fingers or just the brain on recognizing
    the words properly.

    Hell I can't even spell familiar place names anymore.
    Perhaps it is time I stopped writing altogether.

    It makes it hard to defend ones self from the likes of Benson-Pope when
    you can't afford a lawyer.

    http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~bencom/dws1.html

    Regards
     
    Anony Mouse, Sep 8, 2006
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    Anony Mouse, Sep 8, 2006
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    Anony Mouse Guest

    You have shit for brains.
     
    Anony Mouse, Sep 10, 2006
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    elephanto05 Guest

    And yet, even suffering from this dehabilitating infliction I still
    appear to have significantly greater utilisation of whats in my head
    than yourself ... did I strike a little close to the truth perhaps?
     
    elephanto05, Sep 10, 2006
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    Anony Mouse Guest

    Not at all. You are just a stupid coward.
    You are the one that does nothing while Rome burns.
    Your petty argument was pathetic.
     
    Anony Mouse, Sep 10, 2006
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