# Computer Makers Sued Over Hard-Drive Size Claims

Discussion in 'NZ Computing' started by asdf, Sep 24, 2003.

1. ### Brett CooperGuest

Your correct in that a kilo is 1000, the point your missing is that
1kilobyte = 1024bytes.

Your funny... you just take the facts you want as right and everything else
is 'totally wrong'
kilobyte
n : 1024 bytes of information [syn: Kilobyte, {k}, {K}, kb, kB, Kb, KB]
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=kilobyte

What are you on about with KiB? and your reference to kB is errored.

kB
n : 1024 bytes of information [syn: kilobyte, Kilobyte, {k}, {K}, kB, Kb,
KB]

Brett Cooper, Sep 28, 2003

2. ### Brett CooperGuest

Ok, 'I think' you are right in it not being a number base label,
but I am correct in that 4bits is called a nibble, well it's what I think,
and I am 100% sure in that fact!

Brett

Brett Cooper, Sep 28, 2003

3. ### Brett CooperGuest

I was trying to point out is, 1024(dec) is a whole number for computers,
this is because computers work/count in binary, stuff is either on or off.
The computer, when working on a 8 bit system, can express any number from
0(dec) to \$ffff(hex).

But I seem to be talking to a wall thats thinks is red, when it's really
every other colour but red as all the red light is reflected from if.

Brett

Brett Cooper, Sep 28, 2003
4. ### Brett CooperGuest

Yes and in those days a computer was someone who added up numbers, so we
have to find a new name for our PC's. Oh you might have also noticed we are
talking about 'computer bytes' and the number of bytes in 1kilobyte is
1024. Sorry if it's confusing but that's the way it is.

Brett

Brett Cooper, Sep 28, 2003
5. ### Brett CooperGuest

No it;s not, u r mistaken..
It's not rubbish and should be illegal, because when you turn the HD and
goto use the space advertised, you will see 'the computer reports' the
PHYSICAL size is different.

Brett Cooper, Sep 28, 2003
6. ### Brett CooperGuest

Two out of three isn't band, you need to look a little harder into the
computer science of bytes and kilobytes.

Brett

Brett Cooper, Sep 28, 2003
7. ### Uncle StoatWarblerGuest

KiB is a recent attempt to deal with the confusion introduced by murketers
redefining standard computing terms to make things look sexier.

Uncle StoatWarbler, Sep 28, 2003
8. ### Uncle StoatWarblerGuest

Remind me to strongly void any computer suppliers recommended by
Mainlander and Jay.

BTW: PLESE STOP FEEDING THE TROLLS.

Uncle StoatWarbler, Sep 28, 2003
9. ### Ben PerstonGuest

Some might suggest that the confusion arises from the initial misuse of
kilo- etc!

Ben Perston, Sep 28, 2003
10. ### JerryGuest

A ram chip will always be some power of 2. When you get to 1024 bits,
bites, words or whatever you are accesing in a bit of ram it is
referred to a kilo (bit, byte, word). This is bacause people found it
easier to write 1k instead of 1024. When using kilo, meg or gig
designations with RAM it is always rounding the number down. a
kilobyte of ram is 1024 bytes exactly, or near 1000. A megabyte is
exactly 1048576. A hard drive is not addressed by address lines, and
so the actual amount of data that can be stored will likely not be an
exact power of 2, where ram is always an exact power of 2. A 40
gigabyte drive then, will have somewhere near 40,000,000,000 bytes of
data. That is a decimal number, because most things that man uses are
measured in decimal, due to the fact that man developed with 10
digits. Compare 4 different brands of 40gb drive, and you will find
they all have slightly different storage capacities. Compare
different brands of RAM and a megabyte will always be EXACTLY 1048576.

Whether measuring frequency, bytes, apples oranges or distance, a kilo
is 1000, a meg is 1,000,000 and a gig is 1,000,000,000.

Jerry

Jerry, Sep 28, 2003
11. ### MainlanderGuest

Then the compyter manufacturers should be sued for quoting memory as so
many megabytes when it is actually more!

Mainlander, Sep 28, 2003
12. ### MainlanderGuest

Bulldust. One byte is one byte. Kilo is 1000.

Mainlander, Sep 28, 2003
13. ### MainlanderGuest

So MS uses the corruption of metric standards, they should be sued for
misquoting the free space!

Mainlander, Sep 28, 2003
14. ### MainlanderGuest

Computer science, bulldust. One byte is one byte. 1000 bytes is 1
kilobyte. The use of kilo to denote 1024 is a corruption that should not
be tolerated.

Mainlander, Sep 28, 2003
15. ### MainlanderGuest

Remind me that Alan Brown's anti spam operation had to shut down because
they blacklisted Telecom's servers for no other reason than they despised
Telecom.

Mainlander, Sep 28, 2003
16. ### JerryGuest

1024 is nearly a thousand, only recently did anyone really worryu
about the extra 24. It is reasonable ro round off a memory size to
express it in kilo or meg.

Jerry

Jerry, Sep 28, 2003
17. ### MainlanderGuest

1024 is one thing, once it is multiplied a few times the difference is
substantial. 1 meg, actuall1 1048xxx.

Mainlander, Sep 28, 2003
18. ### JerryGuest

it is still easier to say 1 meg than to say one million fourty eight
thousand five hunderd seventy six, isn't it? and if 24 concerns you
so much, why did you round off the 576 from the number you posted?

When NZ went metric, they changed the road signs that said quarter
mile to read 400 meters. Do you really bothered to move the signs
2.336 meters? Are you going to sue the government for the extra
distance you now have to travel?

Jerry

Jerry, Sep 28, 2003
19. ### JayGuest

Exactly.

Jay, Sep 28, 2003
20. ### JayGuest

Absolutely correct.
In networking a kilobyte is always 1000 bytes - *always*.

Jay, Sep 28, 2003