Computer Makers Sued Over Hard-Drive Size Claims

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    T.N.O. Guest

    T.N.O., Sep 24, 2003
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    Rider Guest

    Surely they should be suing Microsoft as its their OS that formats the drive
    using whatever file system, which makes some of the HDD unuseable??

    A blank hdd drive has its full capacity doesnt it?

    *Off to have a look at a blank hdd*

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    Mainlander Guest

    "According to the lawsuit, computer hard drive capacities are described
    in promotional material in decimal notation, but the computer reads and
    writes data to the drives in a binary system.

    The result is that a hard drive described as being 20 gigabytes would
    actually have only 18.6 gigabytes of readable capacity, the lawsuit
    said."

    Completely daft and a typical American attempt to extort money from
    companies through legal action. Actually they steal it from all the other
    customers of the companies concerned.

    The internationally recognised definition of "mega" is 1 million (not
    1048576) and "giga" is 1000 million (not 1073418xxx) because the terms
    are taken from the metric system, which is based in base 10 and not in
    base 2.

    There is a common usage of kilo, mega, giga and tera in binary terms but
    their metric equivalents are equally common in the computer marketplace.
     
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    fred Guest

    Somehow I don't think you will be retained as an expert witness! :)

    Fred
     
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    Mainlander Guest

    The terms kilo, mega, giga and tera are from the metric system where they
    refer respectively to 1000, 1000000, 1000000000 and 1000000000000.

    If you think this is a great idea then I presume you're willing to pay
    more for your hard drives in the future to cover the costs should this
    stupid lawsuit succeed.
     
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    Alan Guest

    The advertising is playing on the fact that people think a kB is 1000 bytes,
    when it's actually 1024 bytes, and a MB is not 1,000,000 bytes, it's really
    1024 x 1024 bytes, which is 1,048,576 bytes. By reversing the logic their
    advertising makes it looks like the drives have more capacity than they
    really do - nothing to do with the O/S. This has been going on for years.

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    Gavin Tunney Guest

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    Rider Guest

    Yeah I agree. If thats their biggest concern in life that they feel the need
    to sue over it, then they must have pretty comfortable lives.

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    Rider, Sep 24, 2003
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    Peter Grooby Guest

    Some years ago a Silicon Valley software nerd sued his company for
    unpaid salary.

    At the time job placement ads customarily listed salaries as 50K or 90K
    etc.
    He argued that if he got hired for a computer job paying 60K, he should
    be paid 60*1024=$61440 not $60000

    Not sure if he won the case (or worked in Silicon Valley again)

    Pete
     
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    T.N.O. Guest

    Didn't say that it was a great idea, only that they are not correct in
    assuming that kilo meant 1024
     
    T.N.O., Sep 25, 2003
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    Mainlander Guest

    Bollocks
     
    Mainlander, Sep 25, 2003
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    Mainlander Guest

    Kilo means 1000, Mega means 1,000,000. These terms come from the metric
    system defined something like 200 years ago.
     
    Mainlander, Sep 25, 2003
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    moe Guest

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    Enkidu Guest

    Enkidu, Sep 25, 2003
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  16. Space on the hard drive is, of course, used for the file system. Select a
    whole lot of files, right click, properties. Notice the descrepancy between
    "size" and "size on disk"? Information must be stored on the drive about
    things like which sectors the file begins and ends at, file attributes, the
    file's name, etc.

    Cheers,
    Nicholas Sherlock
     
    Nicholas Sherlock, Sep 25, 2003
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