Colorspace issue?

Discussion in 'Digital Photography' started by sid derra, Mar 15, 2007.

  1. sid derra

    sid derra Guest

    Hi

    For some time now I have had a pretty annoying issue in my imaging workflow.
    I shoot RAW, still with a D70 (sRGB) and do the pp in PS CS2 with Camera Raw
    (Adobe RGB). However, once I am done and I open the final image in either
    IrfanView (my preferred viewer) or a browser, the colors look horribly
    washed out. Now I wonder whether this might be due to a color space
    mismatch? Maybe someone could give me pointers on how to resolve this.

    Here is a sample screenshot - left is PS (the way it's supposed to look),
    right IrfanView (the way most software shows it):
    http://aycu33.webshots.com/image/13272/2004773924730490649_rs.jpg
    And this is the exact file from the screen shot:
    http://aycu06.webshots.com/image/13125/2003252100736617029_rs.jpg

    Thanks in advance!
    sid
     
    sid derra, Mar 15, 2007
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  2. sid derra

    Scott W Guest

    I an not sure but at a guess IrfanView is likely not looking at the
    color space and assuming sRGB, this is pretty much the norm for photo
    browsers. I know ACDSee does not look at the color space and just
    assumes all files are sRGB. What this means is that you should save
    as sRGB if you want it to look right on your screen, and if you up
    load to the internet you really need to save as sRGB.

    For this reason I mostly always converter from raw right into sRGB.

    Scott
     
    Scott W, Mar 15, 2007
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  3. sid derra

    sid derra Guest

    I changed my camera raw settings to sRGB and - tataaa...
    Thanks!
     
    sid derra, Mar 15, 2007
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    Mark² Guest

    While that will make it look better on your screen...you might want to
    consider using a viewer program that can deal with color profiles. ACDSee
    and other programs can, but you have to turn the function on. Once you do,
    you'll see your images as they really should look...without having to change
    their profile.
     
    Mark², Mar 15, 2007
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  5. sid derra

    Scott W Guest

    Well I am not seeing where in ACDSee you turn on color management,
    just where have
    they hidden it?

    Still I would have to think about whether I would want ACDSee to show
    Adobe RGB images are they should be shown, too easy then to upload to
    a web page and get messed up, or email the file to someone who does
    not have color management in their viewer. My feeling is that unless
    you are going to print the photo sRGB is the safer color space to
    leave it in, and if I need Adobe RGB I can go back and re-converter
    the raw file into that color space.

    Scott
     
    Scott W, Mar 15, 2007
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  6. sid derra

    Mark² Guest

    Sorry. I should have said that SOME versions of ACDSee have it.
    If you have version 8, it's an upgrade. I don't know if 9 has it... The
    market the color-aware version as ACDSee Pro, but you should be able to add
    the feature. Go to Tools>Options and then check near the bottom of the list
    for "Color Management." If it's not there, you don't have the necessary
    version.

    -Mark²
     
    Mark², Mar 15, 2007
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  7. sid derra

    Scott W Guest

    Ok that is why I don't see it.

    Not a big deal as I keep the images I am going to view on the computer
    in sRGB mode. If I was doing a
    lot of printing using Adobe RGB I might see it differently, but Costco
    seems to like sRGB better.

    Scott
     
    Scott W, Mar 15, 2007
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    Paul Mitchum Guest

    When you saved the image in PS, did you check 'embed color profile?'
     
    Paul Mitchum, Mar 15, 2007
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    Lionel Guest

    Yes, that's exactly the problem. And even if you imbed the Adobe RGB
    profile in the JPEG, lots of software ignores it anyway.
    Easy. Just convert to sRGB colourspace (the official standard for
    Windows & websites) before outputting to JPEG. If you're doing it for
    web or PC use, the export to web function will take care of it
    automatically. Alternatively, if you aren't working with images that
    need huge dynamic range, you could just switch to shooting &
    processing in sRGB from start to finish, which is what a lot of people
    are doing now.
     
    Lionel, Mar 15, 2007
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