Code Monkey want MCTS, Code Monkey take exam

Discussion in 'Microsoft Certification' started by Zimri, Apr 3, 2007.

  1. Zimri

    Zimri Guest

    One problem I have always had with certain certifications is with how
    broad they are.

    For instance, after getting my first VB6 cert ("MCP"), I wanted
    something that showed my boss that I understood how to pull from a
    database in VB6: so, ADO 2.x (not to be confused with ADO.NET 2.0).

    However I could not get a cert in just ADO. I had to get a
    "distributed programming" cert which was "distributed" over MTS
    (already, in 2001, phased out in favour of COM+) and ASP (about to be
    phased out and a poor programming model besides).

    So, I ended up cramming a lot of nonsense just to prove that I had
    the ADO. Go ahead, ask me now what the hell ".TransactionContext"
    means. All you other old VB6/SQL developers - how much MTS crap do
    *you* remember? did you ever use?

    I didn't "cheat" to get my 70-175 but, except for ADO, I may as well
    have. If you also got a 70-175, then I went wee wee in your pool.

    >From what I have seen of the 70-536 book, the exam has at least (and

    at last) separated the basic framework from the specialists in VB and

    But even here there seems to be a division between the high-trust-
    environment / barely-trusted-programmer and the low-trust-
    environment / highly-trusted-programmer topics. Based on the book,
    70-536 seems to be a cert for server programmers, what with their
    multithreading and flatfile streams and app domains.

    I am defining a junior programmer as someone who works in high-trust
    environments, like entering basic data or else providing a UI to a
    secured-by-someone-else business tier. An intermediate would be
    comfortable coding in low-trust environments.

    A junior should know:

    1. Framework Fundamentals
    4. Collections and Generics
    9. Installing and Configuring Applications
    10. Instrumentation [maybe not to the Event Log; although, if there is
    a way to restrict certain parts of it from the main Applications etc
    logs, then I'll bite]
    12. User and Data Security
    14. Reflection [for calling up XL etc]

    And should be allowed to choose from among the following:

    2. [Flatfile] I/O
    3. Searching, Modifying, and Encoding Text [regular expressions
    5. Serialization
    6. Graphics
    15. Mail
    **. ADO

    These are interface questions, and are not going to be used in all
    environments. Personally I've done a lot of ADO, with some I/O; and I
    have seen some demand for Serialization. But I never deal with Regex,
    and hardly ever with Graphics; and Mail is just too easy to deserve a
    place in certification.

    VB6 cert either didn't cover, or I never needed, the following:

    7. Threading [are you really going to be letting your juniors play
    lightsabre-duel with threads? let's give them a Mutex and let them
    duke it out over your whole server! no thanks]
    8. Application Domains and [especially] Services
    11. Application Security [unnecessary for the responsibilities Code
    Monkey is likely to be given]
    13. Interoperation [see #11 - plus, the best of the old API calls are
    now bundled into .NET]
    16. Globalization [that SilkRoad.exe *might* be translated into Old
    Sogdian one day... but then again, it might not]

    Wanted: a restoration of the MCP cert with some choice as to how to
    provide a business-to-business interface: ADO, I/O, XML etc etc. This
    is for monkeys like I am now.

    MCTS, then, can cover the low-trust server coding; en route to
    distributed and ASP.NET programming which is where the money is. This
    is for higher primates like I hope to evolve to.

    [apologies to Jon Coulton for the topic header]
    Zimri, Apr 3, 2007
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