# CODE BLUE STAT --->Crash Cart needed at MCDBA forum :)

Discussion in 'MCSE' started by Guest, May 13, 2004.

1. ### GuestGuest

Where did all the DBA's go?

Guest, May 13, 2004

2. ### GuestGuest

Now i have a riddle

you are walking down a path that comes to two gates..
At each gate is a guard
You must ask one guard one and only one question
one guard will only tell truth, the other only lies
you do not know which tells the truth and which tells the lie
only one gate leads to saft
you must choose one gate or the othe
you must go forward you can not turn bac

what is the question and who do you ask

Guest, May 13, 2004

3. ### TechGeekProGuest

Are you a liar?

Now, test yeur speling skil.

TechGeekPro, May 14, 2004
4. ### Ken BriscoeGuest

No. If you ask the truthful one if he's a liar, he'll say no (truthfully).
If you ask the liar if he's a liar, he'll say no (lying). Now, you've got 2
"no" answers. What do you do with them? You can't tell which one is true and
which one is a lie.
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SPOILER (I think)
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However, if you ask one of them something to the effect of "If I ask the
other guard if this gate leads to safety, what would he say?", then you'll
be able to figure out which gate to take.
For the sake of argument, Gate A leads to safety, Gate B leads to the
seventh circle of Hell (of course, we don't know this at the time of the
question, but we have to start somewhere)
Ask Guard A what Guard B would say regarding Gate A:
"What would Guard B say if I asked him if Gate A leads to safety?". Well,
Guard A knows Guard B is a liar (we're assuming - we'll get to the reverse
situation in a minute), so he'd tell us exactly what Guard B would say.
Which, since Gate A is safe, is "no, Gate A leads to Hell."
Now, ask Guard B what Guard A would say regarding Gate A:
"What would Guard A say if I asked him if Gate A leads to safety?" Well,
Guard B knows that Guard A always tells the truth. So he'd LIE ABOUT what
Guard A would say. Since Guard A would say that Gate A leads to safety, he'd
tell us that Gate A leads to Hell.

So, since we know that one of them is lying (and both answers are the same),
then Gate A CAN'T lead to Hell. So we choose Gate A.

Now it's time for bed.

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KB - MCNGP "silent thug" #26

first initial last name AT hotmail DOT com

Ken Briscoe, May 14, 2004
5. ### GuestGuest

wrong question
and if you disagree explain how that will result in determining the correct gate

just excuse the typo

----- TechGeekPro wrote: ----

Are you a liar

Now, test yeur speling skil

Guest, May 14, 2004
6. ### GuestGuest

a swimming pool takes 60 minutes to fil
You start filling at 9:00 a
the volume of the pool increase twice every minut
What time is the pool half full?

Guest, May 14, 2004
7. ### GuestGuest

Very good Ken but you must come to this conclusion by asking only one question.

What gate would the other guard say leads to safty?

now the logic

his response to the question is "this one " -- this is the only possible answer for the liar
take the other gate

if you ask the truthfull guard the same question
his response would be the "other one" -- being the only possible answer to the question for the truthful guard
take his gate

----- Ken Briscoe wrote: -----

No. If you ask the truthful one if he's a liar, he'll say no (truthfully).
If you ask the liar if he's a liar, he'll say no (lying). Now, you've got 2
"no" answers. What do you do with them? You can't tell which one is true and
which one is a lie.
..
..
..
..
..
..
..
..
SPOILER (I think)
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However, if you ask one of them something to the effect of "If I ask the
other guard if this gate leads to safety, what would he say?", then you'll
be able to figure out which gate to take.
For the sake of argument, Gate A leads to safety, Gate B leads to the
seventh circle of Hell (of course, we don't know this at the time of the
question, but we have to start somewhere)
Ask Guard A what Guard B would say regarding Gate A:
"What would Guard B say if I asked him if Gate A leads to safety?". Well,
Guard A knows Guard B is a liar (we're assuming - we'll get to the reverse
situation in a minute), so he'd tell us exactly what Guard B would say.
Which, since Gate A is safe, is "no, Gate A leads to Hell."
Now, ask Guard B what Guard A would say regarding Gate A:
"What would Guard A say if I asked him if Gate A leads to safety?" Well,
Guard B knows that Guard A always tells the truth. So he'd LIE ABOUT what
Guard A would say. Since Guard A would say that Gate A leads to safety, he'd
tell us that Gate A leads to Hell.

So, since we know that one of them is lying (and both answers are the same),
then Gate A CAN'T lead to Hell. So we choose Gate A.

Now it's time for bed.

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KB - MCNGP "silent thug" #26

first initial last name AT hotmail DOT com

Guest, May 14, 2004
8. ### TechGeekProGuest

After making my post, I realized my answer was wrong. A thousands apologizes

TechGeekPro, May 14, 2004
9. ### GuestGuest

TEKGeekPro
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After making my post, I realized my answer was wrong. A thousands apologize

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no problemo amigo or amiga
these are for learning fun

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Now i have a riddle!
you are walking down a path that comes to two gates. At each gate is a guard. You must ask one guard one and only one question. One guard will only tell truth, the other only lies. You do not know which tells the truth and which tells the lie. Only one gate leads to safety you must choose one gate or the other. You must go forward, you can not turn back. What is the question and who do you ask?

Ask one guard, It does not matter which one, the following Question

â€œWhich gate would the other guard say leads to safetyâ€ (or some reasonable wording of the same)

Guard Liar Truthful Truthful Lia
Gate Safety Destruction Safety Destructio
Answer The Other One This One That One This On

The Logic is such that Both guards will always answer
with instruction to take the gate leading to destruction
so in any case take the opposite gate.
the truthful guard will give you the truth by telling you what the liar would say
the liar would lie to you about what the truthful guard would say

Guest, May 14, 2004
10. ### GuestGuest

just a wild guess but 30min so 9:30am

Guest, May 14, 2004
11. ### GuestGuest

Logical guess:
take a look again

HINT:
e^lambda*t
or
exp((ln(2)/t1/2)*t)

Guest, May 14, 2004
12. ### GuestGuest

9:59 am

Guest, May 14, 2004
13. ### Bob HolmesGuest

You beat me to it.
It took me several minutes just to interpret the question as being that the
volume of water in the pool doubles every minute.

Bob Holmes, May 14, 2004
14. ### BrianGuest

Seen Labyrinth recently, have we?

"You remind me of the babe"

Brian, May 14, 2004
15. ### NeilGuest

have you looked over there -------->

Neil, May 14, 2004
16. ### BrianGuest

Maybe the link to post anonymously is broken. That's what happened to the
MCDST group. The web link points to the wrong place.

Brian, May 14, 2004
17. ### JtycGuest

Bah! Stolen from Dr. Who!

In the next chamber he leaves Sarah for a second and she is immediately
encased in a glass tube--a textron crucible. The Doctor tells her not to
panic, but he can't get her out. Two service robots appear and a recorded
message calls them the Twin Guardians of Horus. The Doctor must solve a
Sphinx-like riddle, involving two buttons outside Sarah's narrow prison. One
provides instant freedom; the other instant death. One Guardian is
programmed to tell the truth; the other to lie; and the Doctor can ask only
one question.

the question, which switch would he indicate?" The Guardian points. The
Doctor works it out aloud: "If you're the true Guardian, that must be the
death switch; if you're the automatic liar, you'd be trying to mislead me,
so that must still be the death switch." He pushes the other switch and
frees Sarah; the Guardians disappear.

Jtyc, May 14, 2004
18. ### GuestGuest

Different mothers.

I need more of a challenge here...

Guest, May 14, 2004
19. ### Bob HolmesGuest

They are two of a larger number of multiples, perhaps triplets, quads, etc.

Bob Holmes, May 14, 2004
20. ### GuestGuest

takethe blue pill! take the blue pill!

Guest, May 14, 2004