Cloning so a SATA drive, boting form a SATA drive?

I am not 100% sure the cursor flashes, I'd have to take a closer look next
time.

My BIOS seems to freeze at every oppertunity it gets ie as it did with
the drive with the SMART errors, I think it shoudl perhaps have still booted
despite the errors, but not 100% sure.

There may be an update available for my BIOS but I certainly would not be
attempting to install an update untill I have another machine to fall back
on.
I am very cautious when it comes to thing like that, which is perhas why I
have not totally
screwed my machine up yet, although I have came close to it a few time.
Indeed just now using the other SATA port seemed to screw it up, it said
new hard ware detected and gave me the hourglasss which never disapeared.
I got round it by restarting explorer, I don't know if it will occur again
now, but
I can alway disconnect the SATA drive or go back to the other port. Anyhow
it
would not boot on that port/connector either.

Just as well as I don't fancy using win98 again, far too unstable!!
Although it would be better than nothing, but I expect it is less likelly to
work than XP anyway.

Good job you metioned that because I had that turned off, I have turned it
back on now.

I can't find that, not too sure where to look for it.

For the 500gb drive
disk.sys
partmgr.sys
pssnap.sys

on the ide ATA/ATAPI controler

atapi.sys
storpop.dll

and on the PCI bit also:-

pcide.sys
pciidex.sys

Apart from those there does not seem to be anything else related to the
drives
or their buses. No mention of SATA in there at all. Maybe it's done in the
hardware, I really
have little idea about how it works.

For example it is not like this-

http://attachments.techguy.org/attachments/88629d1159705611/device-manager.png

I don't have the line starting Intel etc...

It's more lilke this


http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/2209/idedevmanagerlz7.gif

But with out the top 2 two sata lines, I just have 2 primary 2 secondary and
2 2 standard duel channel PCI.


So I don't really know what is going on there.
But as I said I don't see why you could not have a chip or some hardware
on the mobo to convert ide to sata.


Any how on those entries I notice I seem to have a device on each of the
primary channels in ultra dma mode 5 and one device on a secondary channel
on ultra dma mode 2. I suspect the 3 are, my system drive, my DVD drive and
the 500 gig drive perhaps.
So I am thinking if I disconnect the SATA drive totally one of those devices
will disappear
where it says 'current transfer mode' as if there is nothing there there
will not be a mode.

So I can try that sometime.

But anyhow all a bit confusing lol.

Thanks!!

 

Just remembered I have a UBS drive connected too just to confuse things!!

 

And not much happened, certainly could not boot on the lone SATA drive.
When I booted on both I got new hardware detected and and hourglass which
never
went away untill I killed and restaarted explorer.


I also booted on linux thing and tried to load the ISO but it never listed
it
al it listed was folders. I think it was looking for a different file
extension
other than .ISO but it could not find it.

However I notice now I have another .iso in my downloads folder, it's size
of 1.7 gig matches the download I expected so maybe I should have used that
I am not sure, but as it didn't list the smaller .iso I doubt it owuld list
the larget one.
It was called KB3AIK_EN.iso

So..... I don't seem to be getting very far!!

 

Device Manager is a graphical way to dump information about
the hardware and the drivers.

Everest (from Lavalys) can also dump a huge amount of info
about hardware, but would probably need quite a bit of
editing to get just the core info.

But Microsoft also makes devcon.exe, which outputs text
in a command prompt window.

For example, in a (DOS) command prompt window, I did the
following sequence.

c:
cd \
cd downloads
cd devcon
cd i386
dir (prove the program is present)

devcon driverfiles * > output.txt

What the last line does, is dump VEN/DEV lines, as well
as lists of driver files, all into a single text file. In
that example, I chose "output.txt" as the file to get
redirection of the text. You then open the output.txt file
in Notepad, and read it.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q311272

"Download the DevCon package now. Release Date: Jan-29-2003"

When you get the devcon.exe file, I think it's self-extracting.
I open files like that with 7ZIP, and get the file I want
that way. In this case, the i386\devcon.exe file inside that
is the one you want. It works with a 32 bit OS. If your OS
was 64 bit, then you'd need an entirely different recipe for
getting the file (as it's not actually available from the above
KB311272 article).

This is a chunk of that kind of output, for my Intel SATA ports.

PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2920&SUBSYS_82771043&REV_02\3&11583659&0&FA
Name: Intel(R) ICH9R/DO/DH 4 port Serial ATA Storage Controller 1 - 2920
Driver installed from c:\windows\inf\oem16.inf [pciide_Inst].
3 file(s) used by driver:
C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pciide.sys
C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pciidex.sys
C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\atapi.sys

The SB400 controls up to eight disks as a chip. In what should be
four pairs. So there should be four chunks similar to the one
I posted. What you'd be looking for, is whether they were all
using pciide.sys type entries, or not. The Silicon Image
driver install, would be using si3112.sys, just for comparison.
The two controllers for the two IDE ribbon cables, that
might be pciide.sys. But the SATA ports might be different.
Based on what I was seeing in the INF file, I'm hoping you'll
find at least one chunk with a "DEV_4379" in it.

PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4379

Paul

 

There is a VERY INTERESTNG one here!!!

http://www.geekstogo.com/forum/topic/269331-cant-boot-xp-from-sata-drive/

"Hi. I am trying to replace the original 200gb IDE drive on my eMachines
with a new 1tb SATA drive on a MS-7184 mobo. The mobo manual claims that you
can boot from a SATA drive.
I have cloned my entire C: drive (with XP) from the IDE to the SATA drive
(using Norton Ghost 12), but if I disconnect the IDE drive, the computer
won't start up."


and later...


"I went back and redid the drive copy using Western Dig's utility instead of
Norton Ghost, and it's working!!!! "!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


So I have downloaded that am installing it so I will have a go with that and
see what happens......

 

Well thanks for that, interesting stuff, but I have something to report.


I did a clone with Acronis True Image and.....glory be..........


!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT WORKED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yep just checked to make sure the old disk is not connected and it isn't!!!!

Well after all that, chased a few red herrings, not to sure what that clone
worked
and the other didn't, perhaps Western DIgital do something odd with their
drives.
But whatever I can finally boot on the SATA drive!!

 

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT WORKED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yep just checked to make sure the old disk is not connected and it isn't!!!!

Well after all that, chased a few red herrings, not to sure why that clone
worked
and the other didn't, perhaps Western DIgital do something odd with their
drives.
But whatever I can finally boot on the SATA drive!!