"Christmas Vacation" Special Edition is a bunch of bull.

Discussion in 'DVD Video' started by Charlie, Apr 23, 2004.

  1. Charlie

    Charlie Guest

    I was eager to get the Special Edition of "National Lampoon's
    Christmas Vacation" because it is one of my favorite holiday films.
    So I went to the store when it came out and paid my money for what I
    hoped would be a better presentation and a few bonus extras, even
    though I already owned the "full screen" version of the film.

    Here's what I got for my money:

    1. A matted picture that cuts off the top and the bottom of the
    picture. I thought a few things were missing when I was watching the
    film. One scene in particular caught my attention. Clark and Cousin
    Eddie are walking in the toy store with the list of toys for the kids.
    Cousin Eddie's tight pants clearly show his large "manhood" hanging in
    his trouser pants. This is part of the joke of who Cousin Eddie is.
    Completely cut out and missing on the "Special Edition".

    2. A commentary in which Beverly D'Angelo add these insights: "Doesn't
    my hair look nice in this scene?" And again later. "They changed my
    hair for this scene, I think it looks nice," There is no talk about
    the actual making of the film. No Director, No Chevy Chase.

    We clamor for "Widescreen" presentations and this is what we get.
    What a bunch of crap.
    Charlie, Apr 23, 2004
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  2. Charlie

    BubbCoop Guest

    <<We clamor for "Widescreen" presentations and this is what we get.>>

    the film was shot in Full Frame and matted to a "widescreen" shape for
    theatrical presentation, so that is the correct version of the movie. The "full
    screen" version is simply unmatted, just as The Shining and Eyes Wide Shut are
    unmatted from what we saw in theaters.
    BubbCoop, Apr 24, 2004
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  3. Charlie

    Charlie Guest

    Charlie, Apr 24, 2004
  4. Charlie

    Jay G Guest

    Okay, so you understand that. What you don't seem to understand
    is that many people who clamor for WS know that a good number
    of WS presentations are matted from a full 4:3 frame, and they
    want them anyway. WS is all about getting the proper aspect
    ratio for a film, not about just getting more image.

    Jay G, Apr 24, 2004
  5. Charlie

    BubbCoop Guest


    don't "duh!" me jackass. the poster was obviously ignorant of the facts.
    BubbCoop, Apr 24, 2004
  6. Charlie

    Charlie Guest

    Yes, I understand. What I am saying is that in this particular case,
    the fullscreen is a better presentation.
    Charlie, Apr 25, 2004
  7. That's it Charlie I'm sick and tired of this crap!
    Now someone hit my music....
    But its not the presentation the filmmakers intended now is it?
    I doubt we were meant to see the character's underwear in
    that infamous scene on "Fish Called Wanda" where he's
    supposed to be "nude" now were we?
    Brian The Demolition Man Little, Apr 25, 2004
  8. Charlie

    Biz Guest

    Ummm.. HE was the OP....
    Biz, Apr 25, 2004
  9. Charlie

    BubbCoop Guest

    <<Yes, I understand. What I am saying is that in this particular case,
    the fullscreen is a better presentation.>>

    it's not the correct one.
    BubbCoop, Apr 25, 2004
  10. Charlie

    BubbCoop Guest

    <<Ummm.. HE was the OP....>>

    okay, then just ignorant.
    BubbCoop, Apr 25, 2004
  11. Yes, I understand. What I am saying is that in this particular case,
    I don't think so. I want to see films presented the way they were
    shown in the theaters. Christmas Vacation was presented in 1.85:1 in
    the theaters in 1989. That's how it should be on DVD. Just because
    an unmatted presentation exposes more video on the top and bottom
    doesn't make it correct. But, if you're that unhappy with the
    widescreen disc just sell it and keep the fullscreen disc.
    It's me, Billy, Apr 25, 2004
  12. Charlie

    3W Guest

    But didn't he also mention a scene being cut?
    3W, Apr 25, 2004
  13. Charlie

    Jay G Guest

    No, he mentioned a sight-gag being out of frame in
    the matted WS version. This happens sometimes,
    with certain props or gags that were put on the
    set not appearing in the intended frame. When it's
    open-matted, the extra image sometimes contains

    A few examples of added image info can be found
    on this Harry Potter comparison page about 2/3rds

    Another example would be the 4:3 version of T3,
    which shows a bit "more" of Kristanna Loken in
    certain shots.

    However, just because this extra image info
    exists, whether it be sight-gags, cleavage, or
    whatever, doesn't mean it was intended to be
    seen. For whatever reason these bits were cut
    out of the intended image by the director and
    cinematographer when framing the shot, so they
    weren't intended to be seen.

    Jay G, Apr 25, 2004
  14. Charlie

    Gazza Guest

    Not on a widescreen TV.

    Gazza, Apr 26, 2004
  15. Charlie

    No Time Guest

    Almost as dumb as your hilarious lack of research. Four seconds on the
    internet would've brought up the specs and saved you the embarrassment
    of wasting your money and starting this idiotic thread. Better luck
    next time, dipshit.
    No Time, Apr 27, 2004
  16. Charlie

    Tarkus Guest

    He *was* the poster.
    Tarkus, Apr 27, 2004
  17. Charlie

    GMAN Guest

    That is never the case.
    GMAN, Apr 27, 2004
  18. Charlie

    GMAN Guest

    Or the shower scene in the motel in "Vacation" where DeAngelo can be seen nude
    on top but wearing white panties???? Man that is stupid.
    GMAN, Apr 27, 2004
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