CF reader now states inserted card not formatted (wrongly)

After using a Belkin USB CF reader for some time with no problems, it now
informs me that any card inserted is not formatted. I've removed and then
reinstalled the drivers, and the LED indicator on the drive suggests that
all is functioning correctly - is this our old friend XP (+SP2) screwing
things up once again?

Constructive suggestions, please.

RM

 

"Roger Moss" <roger.moss(BINTHISBIT)@tiscali.fr> wrote in message
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> After using a Belkin USB CF reader for some time with no problems, it now
> informs me that any card inserted is not formatted. I've removed and then
> reinstalled the drivers, and the LED indicator on the drive suggests that
> all is functioning correctly - is this our old friend XP (+SP2) screwing
> things up once again?
>
> Constructive suggestions, please.
>
> RM
>

Probably not an OS problem, especially if your camera sees the card. Belkin
makes great cables and such, but I don't trust anything they produce that
has Windows drivers. I had a Belkin USB to RS232 converter and guess what?
It rarely worked properly. I had a Belkin USB wireless unit and guess what?
It didn't work properly.

CF card readers are inexpensive. Get another (non-Belkin) one.

Scott Chapin

 

"Scott Chapin" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
> "Roger Moss" <roger.moss(BINTHISBIT)@tiscali.fr> wrote in message
> news:do3oh9$13f$...
>> After using a Belkin USB CF reader for some time with no problems, it now
>> informs me that any card inserted is not formatted. I've removed and then
>> reinstalled the drivers, and the LED indicator on the drive suggests that
>> all is functioning correctly - is this our old friend XP (+SP2) screwing
>> things up once again?
>>
>> Constructive suggestions, please.
>>
>> RM
>>
>
> Probably not an OS problem, especially if your camera sees the card.
> Belkin
> makes great cables and such, but I don't trust anything they produce that
> has Windows drivers. I had a Belkin USB to RS232 converter and guess what?
> It rarely worked properly. I had a Belkin USB wireless unit and guess
> what?
> It didn't work properly.
>
> CF card readers are inexpensive. Get another (non-Belkin) one.
>
> Scott Chapin
>
>

sounds like a fault in the reader, not an OS problem.

 

On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 14:34:23 +0100, "Roger Moss"
<roger.moss(BINTHISBIT)@tiscali.fr> wrote:

>After using a Belkin USB CF reader for some time with no problems, it now
>informs me that any card inserted is not formatted. I've removed and then
>reinstalled the drivers, and the LED indicator on the drive suggests that
>all is functioning correctly - is this our old friend XP (+SP2) screwing
>things up once again?
>
>Constructive suggestions, please.
>
>RM
>
>
I doubt it's an XP/SP2 problem; it would have always been flakey if it
were.
Why does the Belkin reader need drivers? XP has the drivers built in
for card readers. I'd suspect the reader; they're cheap, get another,
one that will work out of the box with XP (just about any currently
marketed USB reader).

--
Bill Funk
Replace "g" with "a"
funktionality.blogspot.com

 

To be honest, I got a Belkin unit as I've always thought their cables, etc.,
were pretty rugged and assumed that a simple card reader ought to be
similarly bomb-proof.

But... if I take out the cable from it and connect directly to my camera
body, all transfers with no problems - albeit a bit slowly. I'll try using
the XP driver before assuming the reader is a basket case, as it's pretty
new and has never even been out on the road. I'll also try it on my notebook
PC; if it works on that, well...

Thanks for the responses!

RM

"Bill Funk" <> wrote in message
news:...
> On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 14:34:23 +0100, "Roger Moss"
> <roger.moss(BINTHISBIT)@tiscali.fr> wrote:
>
>>After using a Belkin USB CF reader for some time with no problems, it now
>>informs me that any card inserted is not formatted. I've removed and then
>>reinstalled the drivers, and the LED indicator on the drive suggests that
>>all is functioning correctly - is this our old friend XP (+SP2) screwing
>>things up once again?
>>
>>Constructive suggestions, please.
>>
>>RM
>>
>>
> I doubt it's an XP/SP2 problem; it would have always been flakey if it
> were.
> Why does the Belkin reader need drivers? XP has the drivers built in
> for card readers. I'd suspect the reader; they're cheap, get another,
> one that will work out of the box with XP (just about any currently
> marketed USB reader).
>
> --
> Bill Funk
> Replace "g" with "a"
> funktionality.blogspot.com

 

Roger Moss wrote:
> To be honest, I got a Belkin unit as I've always thought their cables, etc.,
> were pretty rugged and assumed that a simple card reader ought to be
> similarly bomb-proof.
>
> But... if I take out the cable from it and connect directly to my camera
> body, all transfers with no problems - albeit a bit slowly. I'll try using
> the XP driver before assuming the reader is a basket case, as it's pretty
> new and has never even been out on the road. I'll also try it on my notebook
> PC; if it works on that, well...
>
>
Have the camera reformat the card after you've downloaded the next batch
of photos. Longish shot, but might do it.

==
John McWilliams

 

"Henry" <> wrote in message
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>

<SNIP>

> sounds like a fault in the reader, not an OS problem.
>

Indeed, and most probably the drivers and not the hardware.

Scott Chapin

 

"Roger Moss" <roger.moss(BINTHISBIT)@tiscali.fr> wrote in message
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> To be honest, I got a Belkin unit as I've always thought their cables,
etc.,
> were pretty rugged and assumed that a simple card reader ought to be
> similarly bomb-proof.
>
<SNIP>

That's why I went with Belkin, until two USB items of theirs had crappy
drivers!

Good Luck,

Scott Chapin

 

On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 17:38:02 +0100, "Roger Moss"
<roger.moss(BINTHISBIT)@tiscali.fr> wrote:

>To be honest, I got a Belkin unit as I've always thought their cables, etc.,
>were pretty rugged and assumed that a simple card reader ought to be
>similarly bomb-proof.
>
>But... if I take out the cable from it and connect directly to my camera
>body, all transfers with no problems - albeit a bit slowly. I'll try using
>the XP driver before assuming the reader is a basket case, as it's pretty
>new and has never even been out on the road. I'll also try it on my notebook
>PC; if it works on that, well...

Did the instructions that came with the Belkin reader tell you to
install drivers for WinXP? Or did you simply install them because they
were there?
If the latter, yes, remove them.
If the former, replace the Belkin reader; they obviously don't know
what they are doing. Everyone else can build a reader that needs no
other drivers than those in XP.
>
>Thanks for the responses!
>
>RM
>
>"Bill Funk" <> wrote in message
>news:...
>> On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 14:34:23 +0100, "Roger Moss"
>> <roger.moss(BINTHISBIT)@tiscali.fr> wrote:
>>
>>>After using a Belkin USB CF reader for some time with no problems, it now
>>>informs me that any card inserted is not formatted. I've removed and then
>>>reinstalled the drivers, and the LED indicator on the drive suggests that
>>>all is functioning correctly - is this our old friend XP (+SP2) screwing
>>>things up once again?
>>>
>>>Constructive suggestions, please.
>>>
>>>RM
>>>
>>>
>> I doubt it's an XP/SP2 problem; it would have always been flakey if it
>> were.
>> Why does the Belkin reader need drivers? XP has the drivers built in
>> for card readers. I'd suspect the reader; they're cheap, get another,
>> one that will work out of the box with XP (just about any currently
>> marketed USB reader).
>>
>> --
>> Bill Funk
>> Replace "g" with "a"
>> funktionality.blogspot.com
>

--
Bill Funk
Replace "g" with "a"
funktionality.blogspot.com

 

Re: CF reader now states inserted card not formatted (wrongly) - Belkin not gulty?

"Bill Funk" <> wrote in message
news:...

>>To be honest, I got a Belkin unit as I've always thought their cables,
>>etc.,
>>were pretty rugged and assumed that a simple card reader ought to be
>>similarly bomb-proof.
>>
>>But... if I take out the cable from it and connect directly to my camera
>>body, all transfers with no problems - albeit a bit slowly. I'll try using
>>the XP driver before assuming the reader is a basket case, as it's pretty
>>new and has never even been out on the road. I'll also try it on my
>>notebook
>>PC; if it works on that, well...
>
> Did the instructions that came with the Belkin reader tell you to
> install drivers for WinXP? Or did you simply install them because they
> were there?
> If the latter, yes, remove them.
> If the former, replace the Belkin reader; they obviously don't know
> what they are doing. Everyone else can build a reader that needs no
> other drivers than those in XP.

Well, maybe we shouldn't jump to conclusions - the unit works fine on my
notebook, and - surprise, surprise - my old USB1.1 card reader shows the
same problem on my main machine as the Belkin unit. I pop in a card
containing images, only to be told it's not formatted.

I checked the Belkin install disk, which despite the Install Driver menu
item doesn't seem to contain a driver at all; maybe it simply checks that
the native Win XP driver is there. Anyhow, my guess is that the driver is
corrupt, but I may be wrong - now all I need to do is figure out how to
replace it (bearing in mind I have SP2 installed, so that rules out the
original Windows install disk... we'll see.

Strange, never had this problem with film

Stay tuned...

RM

 

"Bill Funk" <> wrote in message
news:...
> On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 17:38:02 +0100, "Roger Moss"
> <roger.moss(BINTHISBIT)@tiscali.fr> wrote:
>
>>To be honest, I got a Belkin unit as I've always thought their cables,
>>etc.,
>>were pretty rugged and assumed that a simple card reader ought to be
>>similarly bomb-proof.
>>
>>But... if I take out the cable from it and connect directly to my camera
>>body, all transfers with no problems - albeit a bit slowly. I'll try using
>>the XP driver before assuming the reader is a basket case, as it's pretty
>>new and has never even been out on the road. I'll also try it on my
>>notebook
>>PC; if it works on that, well...
>
> Did the instructions that came with the Belkin reader tell you to
> install drivers for WinXP? Or did you simply install them because they
> were there?
> If the latter, yes, remove them.
> If the former, replace the Belkin reader; they obviously don't know
> what they are doing. Everyone else can build a reader that needs no
> other drivers than those in XP.
>>
>>Thanks for the responses!
>>
>>RM
>>
>>"Bill Funk" <> wrote in message
>>news:...
>>> On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 14:34:23 +0100, "Roger Moss"
>>> <roger.moss(BINTHISBIT)@tiscali.fr> wrote:
>>>
>>>>After using a Belkin USB CF reader for some time with no problems, it
>>>>now
>>>>informs me that any card inserted is not formatted. I've removed and
>>>>then
>>>>reinstalled the drivers, and the LED indicator on the drive suggests
>>>>that
>>>>all is functioning correctly - is this our old friend XP (+SP2) screwing
>>>>things up once again?
>>>>
>>>>Constructive suggestions, please.
>>>>
>>>>RM
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I doubt it's an XP/SP2 problem; it would have always been flakey if it
>>> were.
>>> Why does the Belkin reader need drivers? XP has the drivers built in
>>> for card readers. I'd suspect the reader; they're cheap, get another,
>>> one that will work out of the box with XP (just about any currently
>>> marketed USB reader).
>>>
>>> --
>>> Bill Funk
>>> Replace "g" with "a"
>>> funktionality.blogspot.com
>>
>
> --
> Bill Funk
> Replace "g" with "a"
> funktionality.blogspot.com

While it's true winxp doesn't need a vendor supplied driver, canon do supply
a thing called wia (or similar, I'm going by memory). This thing already
exists in winxp and isn't really needed, but it's possible vendors might
have a later driver.
I really doubt Belkin don't know what they are doing, they've been making
this stuff for quite a while. I have a Belkin centronics to usb cable that
worked fine in both winxp and win98se. I no longer need it. Besides, the op
indicated his reader was working at one time. I vote for the the corrupted
driver problem. If you go into device manage with the device connected, you
get an option to update driver. One of the sources is windows update site.
Never used it, maybe worth a try
Dave Cohen

 

Re: CF reader now states inserted card not formatted (wrongly) - Belkin not gulty?

On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 21:47:20 +0100, "Roger Moss"
<roger.moss(BINTHISBIT)@tiscali.fr> wrote:

>
>"Bill Funk" <> wrote in message
>news:...
>
>>>To be honest, I got a Belkin unit as I've always thought their cables,
>>>etc.,
>>>were pretty rugged and assumed that a simple card reader ought to be
>>>similarly bomb-proof.
>>>
>>>But... if I take out the cable from it and connect directly to my camera
>>>body, all transfers with no problems - albeit a bit slowly. I'll try using
>>>the XP driver before assuming the reader is a basket case, as it's pretty
>>>new and has never even been out on the road. I'll also try it on my
>>>notebook
>>>PC; if it works on that, well...
>>
>> Did the instructions that came with the Belkin reader tell you to
>> install drivers for WinXP? Or did you simply install them because they
>> were there?
>> If the latter, yes, remove them.
>> If the former, replace the Belkin reader; they obviously don't know
>> what they are doing. Everyone else can build a reader that needs no
>> other drivers than those in XP.
>
>Well, maybe we shouldn't jump to conclusions - the unit works fine on my
>notebook, and - surprise, surprise - my old USB1.1 card reader shows the
>same problem on my main machine as the Belkin unit. I pop in a card
>containing images, only to be told it's not formatted.
>
>I checked the Belkin install disk, which despite the Install Driver menu
>item doesn't seem to contain a driver at all; maybe it simply checks that
>the native Win XP driver is there. Anyhow, my guess is that the driver is
>corrupt, but I may be wrong - now all I need to do is figure out how to
>replace it (bearing in mind I have SP2 installed, so that rules out the
>original Windows install disk... we'll see.
>
>Strange, never had this problem with film
>
>Stay tuned...
>
>RM
>

Please, try another reader.
I've never heard of an install disk that was designed to check to see
if XP has a driver installed; MS is pretty decent about letting device
makers know which drivers are there, so the makers can make devices
that work; it's to MS's benefit to do this.
Again: did the instructions tell you to use an install disk with XP?
If so, Belkin is suspect, as other USB readers don't need to do this.

--
Bill Funk
Replace "g" with "a"
funktionality.blogspot.com

 

"Roger Moss" <roger.moss(BINTHISBIT)@tiscali.fr> wrote in message
news:do3oh9$13f$...
> After using a Belkin USB CF reader for some time with no problems, it now
> informs me that any card inserted is not formatted. I've removed and then
> reinstalled the drivers, and the LED indicator on the drive suggests that
> all is functioning correctly - is this our old friend XP (+SP2) screwing
> things up once again?
>
> Constructive suggestions, please.
>
> RM
>
>
>

Are there any yellow bang marks in your device drivers?

Scott Chapin

 

Roger Moss wrote:
> After using a Belkin USB CF reader for some time with no problems, it now
> informs me that any card inserted is not formatted. I've removed and then
> reinstalled the drivers, and the LED indicator on the drive suggests that
> all is functioning correctly - is this our old friend XP (+SP2) screwing
> things up once again?
>
> Constructive suggestions, please.
>
> RM
>
>
>
Look down inside the reader slot and check for bent pins.