Canon i450 / i455 : Anyone else having replacement print head problems?

Discussion in 'Computer Support' started by triffid, Feb 12, 2006.

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    measekite Guest

    measekite, Feb 24, 2006
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    Margolotta Guest

    Indeed. The best printer I have *EVER* owned was an EPSON Stylus Colour 900.
    Worked like a Trojan from the day I bought it until it gave up the ghost.
    Massive tanks - a metric ream could easily be printed (at around 80%
    coverage) from the black tank - I used to print simple newsletters (mainly
    black text and spot colour) and I could just leave it churning them out - it
    never clogged or jammed. Eventually the PCB died (well, something on the PCB
    died) and the cheapest quote I had for a fix was £400 (ex. labour) so, sadly,
    I had to resign it to the dump. :eek:(

    Because the aftermarket tanks were so cheap, I used to make a reasonable
    profit on it. I could pick up black tanks for £2 and colour for £3. I
    reckoned that printing cost, roughly, a penny a page and I charged £15 per
    50. As there was nowhere else in the area, I made quite a bit to supplement
    my studies.

    Couldn't do that now... :eek:(
    Margolotta, Feb 24, 2006
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    Oldus Fartus Guest

    Your Caps Lock is stuck.
    Oldus Fartus, Feb 24, 2006
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    zakezuke Guest

    Because the aftermarket tanks were so cheap, I used to make a reasonable
    You probally could if you hunted around a bit. I buy aftermarket bulk
    ink for about USD$5.00 per 60ml. The Stylus 900 IIRC took a 35ml black
    tank. Large, but not super super large. And for such an application
    HP does have a business class printer, and Canon does seem to be
    getting into the game as well. I just recently saw an HP 2000C in the
    local thrift store for $10.00 still working. New the 2300 is usd $500
    to $900. Those tanks at least double in size... about 70ml black /
    30ml each color IIRC. I know for a fact I can get those prefilled with
    aftermarket ink for 10 quid each, perhaps less if I shop around. OEM
    is closer to 20 quid.

    And if you want Epson, plenty of CIS systems to feed directly off bulk
    zakezuke, Feb 24, 2006
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    triffid Guest

    No, the new printer I have is not signficantly better than the i455.
    The i455 actually performed a lot better than I'd expected (or needed)
    it to.

    And as for the printheads, I arranged refunds in both cases. I
    certainly don't intend giving almost £40 to Canon for a faulty

    - Triffid
    triffid, Feb 24, 2006
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    triffid Guest

    In my response to your original message, I should have emphasised that
    you pretty much missed the point of what I originally said. Namely,
    it's a fact of the screwed up way that the inkjet market works (I don't
    call it a fact of life for the reasons that Mitch described); and it's
    precisely this that annoys me.

    Assuming that the example given above is genuine (and being Lexmark, I
    can almost believe it), it's a prime example of everything wrong with
    the printer industry. That was my point.

    I'm not denying that if you accept this, then it's cheaper to buy a new
    Lexmark than to replace a Lexmark head. I'm saying that the fact that
    this is the case is ludicrous.

    - Triffid
    triffid, Feb 24, 2006
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    triffid Guest

    No, the original discussion was regarding a £37 replacement print head
    versus a £73 printer which, whilst it had some desirable new features
    wasn't *that* much better, and also had some drawbacks regarding ink

    Please stop making this "printhead cost more than the printer"
    comparison, as it doesn't apply here.

    - Triffid
    triffid, Feb 24, 2006
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    triffid Guest

    I plan on looking into the EU recycling laws at any rate. (^_^)

    - Triffid
    triffid, Feb 24, 2006
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    Mitch Guest

    Economic obsolesence refers to the idea that some products are not
    worth making or selling.

    What you were saying was the opposite -- that the device was obsolete
    to the user. In order for it to be obsolete to the user, it would have
    to be not reasonably capable of doing the same kind of printing tasks.

    In this discussion, that difference is pretty important -- because you
    are advocating the advantages of newer hardware, it's critical to
    understanding the value of the current hardware.
    It has clearly NOT become worthless or useless just because there is
    something of better quality available.

    Then you can bring in the cost issue -- cost of consumables versus cost
    or replacement device.
    Mitch, Feb 24, 2006
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    SleeperMan Guest

    Then you made a bad purchase
    uhhh...lucky you are...
    SleeperMan, Feb 24, 2006
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    SleeperMan Guest

    i agree with this point. It's also not on me either to accept or not - it's
    just i (or we) must accept, since we have no other choice. Sure, system is
    corrupted, but we can do a shit about it.
    And that of Lexmark is true...i even bought two models---one was (damn, i
    don't remember models anymore) e23 or similar, it cost (calculated 35USD
    with both full heads included. When i went out of ink, bought model e33
    (which i still don't know the difference between two), came 38 USD again
    with both carts. After that i as tired of changing printers and i got myself
    i550. OK, that one was somewhat more expensive, but separated carts adn
    better quality, so it ws worthed. I refilled, so in a working period of it
    (18 months) i saved so much that i got new ip4000 and still had some money
    left with addendum that ip4000 really rocks regarding photos, which i can't
    say for i550. So, i gained double, i guess.
    The whole fact is that until companies will disregard environment polution
    things will be as they are...tha fact of life isn't what we agree of, but
    what we must accept and live least in my opinion.
    SleeperMan, Feb 24, 2006
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    SleeperMan Guest

    original message was regarding THREE replacement heads and noone mentioned
    getting refund. And that IS more than new printer. So, please read whole
    message and you'll see. It's totally different story if refund was given.
    SleeperMan, Feb 24, 2006
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    SleeperMan Guest

    no point here...he's deaf regarding this. My guess is if he's deaf he
    thinks we all are so he shouts just in case.
    SleeperMan, Feb 24, 2006
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    SleeperMan Guest

    i see you assume this on behaviour of your printers. Well, if you'd use
    aftermarket ink, it won't come to this. None of use ever had fading with
    non-OEM ink, just you with original one.
    SleeperMan, Feb 24, 2006
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    measekite Guest

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    measekite Guest

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    measekite Guest

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    Frank Guest

    It's his sign of complacent stupidity. His trade mark of just how dumb
    he is.
    He is a total loser.
    Frank, Feb 24, 2006
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    SleeperMan Guest

    yeah, i mean really...who else would make a free commerical for any company
    SleeperMan, Feb 24, 2006
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    Steve Guest

    Oh well, if those paragons of computer knowledge at PCWorld said
    Steve, Feb 24, 2006
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