Canon 10D & Sigma lens issue

Discussion in 'Digital Photography' started by Philip Rofe, Jan 3, 2004.

  1. Philip Rofe

    Philip Rofe Guest

    Does anyone have any knowledge of problems using Sigma lenses with a Canon
    body? The reason why I ask, is because I own a 10D and have just shelled
    out on a Sigma 17-35mm EX lens. When I first tried to buy this lens
    yesterday (in another shop), the lens they offered me wouldn't work with the
    Canon AF - they told me that previous customers had had to send their lenses
    to sigma for 're-chipping'. However, today, I tried (and bought) the same
    lens in another shop - it works fine with the Canon AF - obviously this lens
    was from a more recent batch. However, when I told the first shop that I had
    found the same lens somewhere else, and it worked fine, they told me that :
    1.Sigma(UK) told them (the shop) that Canon have in the past of made it
    technically difficult to fit third party lenses to Canon bodies, thus making
    Canon body owners need to buy Canon lenses; 2. Canon told this shop that the
    Sigma17-35mm was not a good lens and that other customers had complained of
    'exposure' problems using it with the Canon10D!! Help!
    Has anyone any knowledge of problems using these two together? I am
    obviously very concerned and surprised that a reputable shop would sell
    goods knowing that the customer was making a costly error.
    Please advise.
    Philip Rofe, Jan 3, 2004
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    Dan Sullivan Guest

    It's an AF lens.

    If it didn't work AF there was something wrong with it.
    Maybe for an older lens.

    NOT an EX.
    Na, the other lens wasn't working for some reason.

    A return maybe?
    And they hoped you'd return the Sigma lens to the other shop and buy a Canon
    lens from them.
    It's a FINE lens.

    The salesman in the first shop certainly has you frazzled.

    Take some pictures.

    It's a DIGITAL camera.

    You'll see results right away!

    Have fun, Dan Sullivan
    Dan Sullivan, Jan 3, 2004
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    MB Guest

    I can't comment on this particular lens - but I use three Sigmas on my 10D.
    I use the 50-500mm APO RF as a powerful telephoto, a 24-70mm EX Aspherical
    DG DF for general use and a 15-30mm DG for wide angle. While I have
    experienced some softness under certain circumstances (usually my fault!!)
    the overall quality of images is very good and the performance of these
    lenses is more than adequate for me. The only thing I wish for is image
    stabilisation on the "big" lens and it can be difficult to hand hold,
    especially in windy conditions.

    I opted for Sigma because I could not afford the Canon equivalents and I
    have no regrets. I do know of some issues with Sigma lenses on Canon bodies
    (with many people having to have some rechipping work done) but as far as I
    know this applies to older lenses. I have never had any trouble whatsoever.

    I have never heard of Canon making it "difficult" to use third party lenses,
    so I cannot comment on this.

    If your lens works with your 10D and the images are acceptable to you, don't
    worry! Good luck.

    MB, Jan 3, 2004
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    Twoflower Guest

    I had an issue with the D60 not working correctly with two lenses. For some
    reason one of our 28-80mm lenses (from a canon Eos300) constantly over
    exposed (80% white images in bright sunlight!). I thought i was going mad,
    not using the camera properly. Turns out the same lense type from my
    partners camera worked fine.

    Both lenses work fine on the 300, but some people have reported a funny with
    some lenses (this was a true canon lense as well).

    Maybe something to do with the alignment of the contacts on the lense?

    Everyhting works fine now, and i have just upgraded to the Sigma 17mm lense.
    Works brilliantly (and not as ludicrously sized as the 15) and it
    practically sees around the corner!



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    Twoflower, Jan 3, 2004
  5. Some of theirlenses require a rechip to work with the current version. This
    is just a fact of life. It does not mean it is a bad lens. Photodo rated
    your lens a 3.1 for optics, or about average, for a non-kit lens. The
    photography review rating is 3.96 out of 5, or once again pretty darn good.

    Now were you comparing an HSM vs a non-HSM? If so you were probably dealing
    with old stock. For all the numbers I have figured you were comparing the
    current HSM version.

    Now go have fun with your new purchase and don't mind what a store telss you
    after you skip out on them.

    Quoted from Sigmas Website:

    Q: Are Sigma lenses compatible with my new Canon Elan 7 camera? The Rebel
    Ti? How about EOS 10D.

    A: All current production Sigma lenses for Canon autofocus cameras are fully
    compatible with the new Elan 7, Rebel Ti or EOS 10D camera. This includes
    all HSM type lenses. Some earlier production non-HSM lenses may require
    modification in order to perform normally with the new camera. If you have a
    question about a particular lens, please contact Sigma's service department
    (in the U.S.) at (631) 585-1144 or via email at .
    Robert Meyers, Jan 3, 2004
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    roundball Guest

    roundball, Jan 3, 2004
  7. Here's the answer - don't buy shitty lenses that weren't designed for
    the camera (like non-Canon lenses).
    Randall Ainsworth, Jan 3, 2004
  8. Everyhting works fine now, and i have just upgraded to the Sigma 17mm lense.
    The words "Sigma" and "upgrade" never belong in the same sentence.
    Randall Ainsworth, Jan 3, 2004
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    Michael Guest

    How insightful.

    Michael, Jan 3, 2004
  10. Philip - I have a 10D and the Sigma 17-35 lens. I was looking for a low
    cost w/angle lens and was happy with it until I bought a Canon one which, at
    another £1000 has the optical edge over it. The handling, focussing and
    exposures were great but it was slightly too 'soft' for my purposes. If
    you're not wanting to commercially reproduce your work (brochures etc) it
    is absolutely great. I guess the old adage 'you gets what you pays for' is
    proved to be correct in this instance. Anyway unless you want to splash
    out, you will be very happy with the 10D/Sigma marriage! - Richard
    Richard \(UK\), Jan 3, 2004
  11. Philip Rofe

    Tony Spadaro Guest

    You bought a newer version with the newer chip. There is no guarantee
    that it will work on the next Canon you buy however, as Sigma does not
    license the mount - they reverse engineer it. As long as Sigma pulls this
    cheap crap you can expect trouble with their lenses. I know that a
    reasonably priced 17-35 is not available from Canon, so you probably should
    keep the lens and figure on selling it sometime in the future.
    Sigma will re-chip it once -- if you are the original owner, if it is a
    Sigma brand and not Quantary or any other house brand, if the new body it
    will not work on comes out fairly soon. I called Sigma about my 6 year old
    lens and was told it was "too old" to rechip - the same lens, presumably
    with the new chip, is still on the market. A friend sent them a 50 macro for
    re-chipping a couple years ago -- it took over six months to return - by
    which time he had given up and bought a Canon 100 macro.

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    Tony Spadaro Guest

    The clue in that piece of gubbage is the word "current". Sigmas are infamous
    for not working with later generations, but they buy a new model as soon as
    it comes out, reverse engineer it and put out the same lenses with new
    chips. They are a cheapjack company and this is how they manage to be a few
    dollars below the competition - as to the customer ---- screw him .

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    Tony Spadaro, Jan 3, 2004
  13. Philip Rofe

    Philip Rofe Guest

    Thanks for your help guys! I'll let you know how I get on. It's interesting
    to know that there don't seem to have been any major problems. As a matter
    of interest, the lens that didn't work was an EX, however it must have been
    old stock or faulty or a return. To those of you who are scathing of Sigma -
    I hope you are mistaken, and I wish I had your money!!
    Philip Rofe, Jan 3, 2004
  14. The words "Sigma" and "upgrade" never belong in the same sentence.
    And truthful.
    Randall Ainsworth, Jan 3, 2004
  15. Thanks for your help guys! I'll let you know how I get on. It's interesting
    You wanna play the game, you gotta pay the price of admission. It's as
    simple as that.
    Randall Ainsworth, Jan 3, 2004
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    Mark B. Guest

    Yeah, I'll second that. Hell, if I could afford Canon L lenses that's what
    I'd be buying. But right now it's just a serious hobby so I get what I can
    afford. I've been extremely happy with my Sigma 70-200 f/2.8 EX, which does
    work fine on both my D30 and 10D. The 300 f/4 however, doesn't work on the
    10D and will have to go back to Sigma for re-chipping. Even if it costs me
    a few bucks, I know what I paid initially plus the re-chipping won't even
    approach the cost of the Canon L version.

    Mark B., Jan 4, 2004
  17. Yeah, I'll second that. Hell, if I could afford Canon L lenses that's what
    Nice to see you've established mediocrity as the standard.
    Randall Ainsworth, Jan 4, 2004
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    Tony Spadaro Guest

    Tony Spadaro, Jan 4, 2004
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    MB Guest

    Randall, I take offence at that. I use Sigma because it is what I can afford
    and so far it suits my needs and my budget. I do not have wads of money to
    spend on what, for me, is a hobby. I work hard in a good job, bring money
    home to give my family a comfortable life and make sure all the bills are
    paid. Is that "mediocrity?" I don't think so - I love my family, I enjoy my
    camera. Simple choice - the camera comes second. I wonder how many people
    would make a different choice?

    Enjoy your life.
    MB, Jan 4, 2004
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    RustY © Guest

    Yes as others have now told you there are lots. One thing that you should
    remember is that your sigma lens will quite possibly not work with the next
    Canon models released and that will halve its value overnight. Sigma told
    me 'tough' when I pointed out that my 400mm would not work with my 10D. I
    too only bought a Sigma because it was cheap - a big mistake - I now only
    buy and use Canon lenses.
    RustY ©, Jan 4, 2004
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