Can Exam 70-621 be used in place of 70-620

Discussion in 'MCSA' started by Travis, Aug 28, 2007.

  1. Travis

    Travis Guest

    If I take the upgrade exam 70-621, then it is supposed to complete the
    requirement for the following certification - Microsoft Certified Technology
    Specialist: Windows Vista, Configuration (which is what exam 70-620 is). So
    can 70-621 be used in place of 70-620 for the client operating system
    requirement for an MCSA?

    -Travis
     
    Travis, Aug 28, 2007
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  2. Travis

    AJR Guest

    Exam 70-621 is a specific exam to upgrade current MCDST status to MCITP.
    Repeat "current status as MCDST is required".

    It does not sustitute for initial certification requirements.
     
    AJR, Aug 28, 2007
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  3. Travis

    Travis Guest

    If I'm already an MCITP: Enterprise Support, because I took the 70-621 exam,
    do I still have to take 70-620 to fulfill the client operating system
    requirement for an MCSA or can I substitue 621 for 620? The reason I ask is
    because passing either 620 or 621 both qualify you for the Microsoft
    Certified Technology Specialist: Windows Vista, Configuration Certification.
    So it seems reasonable that since either test gives the same certification
    than either test could be used to fulfill the client operating system
    requirement for an MCSA.

    -Travis
     
    Travis, Aug 28, 2007
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  4. Travis

    Travis Guest

    Okay, thanks. How can you tell if an exam is a client exam or not?

    -Travis
     
    Travis, Aug 28, 2007
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  5. Well, the link Catwalker posted for MCSA shows "Core exams: client
    operating system (one exam required)" and has a list of Exams that
    qualify.

    MG
     
    Mostly Gizzards, Aug 28, 2007
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  6. Hi all.

    Are you really sure, that the MCDST-Upgrade (70-621) isn't worth the 70-620?
    When I look at this: http://www.microsoft.com/learning/exams/70-621.mspx I
    read the following:
    Credit toward certification
    This exam is only relevant to MCDST customers. When you pass Exam 70-621
    UPG: Upgrading Your MCDST Certification to MCITP Enterprise Support, you
    complete the requirements for the following certifications:

    . Microsoft Certified IT Professional: Enterprise Support Technician

    . Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist: Windows Vista,
    Configuration





    So I read : passing the 70-621 makes you MCTS - Vista Configuration and this
    is the point the original poster wanted to know.
    In my opinion this must be enough to fullfil the need for the client OS ?!?

    And the original MCDST cert would fill the elective exam for the MCSA.


    Okay, that's strange ....


    Harald (MCDST in Germany ;o) )
     
    Harald Rüdinger, Aug 29, 2007
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  7. No, the question asked was "So
    can 70-621 be used in place of 70-620 for the client operating system
    requirement for an MCSA?"

    Which it can't. You're confusing the elective requirement for MCSA with
    the client OS requirement. They are both required, and having MCDST
    only fulfills the elective. The ONLY exams you can use to fill the MCSA
    client OS requirements are 70-620, 70-270, and 70-210. Please read this
    link (yes the same one posted earlier) for the requirements to attain
    MCSA on Windows Server 2003.
    http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcsa/windows2003/default.mspx

    MG
     
    Mostly Gizzards, Aug 29, 2007
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  8. No, the question asked was "So
    Okay, the words are written in this form, but I thought by passing the
    70-621 (after beeing MCDST) he earns two certs:
    the enterprise support technician (70-622?) AND the MCTS Vista
    configuration (and this is 70-620).


    In the end he can't use the 621, but this included 70-620 cert to fullfil
    the need of the client OS.
    Or am I wrong in this?

    I thought that this is the big benefit in making the 621 for all those
    MCDSTs out there, that you can earn two certs in one exam ??


    Greetings

    Harald
     
    Harald Rüdinger, Aug 29, 2007
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  9. Is this really true?

    Look at this:
    http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/vistaupgrade/default.mspx

    Point 3:
    Save 40 percent on your upgrade exam!
    If you are an MCDST, you only need to take one exam (70-621) to earn the
    MCTS and MCITP: Enterprise Support Technician certifications for Windows
    Vista. As a thank you to those who are certified on Windows XP, we are
    offering a 40 percent savings on exam 70-621. Use promotion code DCAUPG when
    you register at Pearson VUE or Prometric. Offer expires on September 30,
    2007, and cannot be combined with other offers.



    The earned MCTS is not the Cert 70-620?
    This would mean, that I earn the MCITP without having the Vista config cert
    (MCTS) itself ? Really?
    In this case you have to redo the 70-621 (not the 622) again and again in
    case it expires because it is to old?

    Greetings

    Harald
     
    Harald Rüdinger, Aug 30, 2007
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  10. If you are an MCDST and take 70-621 you become a MCTS: Vista,
    Configuration as well as the MCITP Enterprise Support.

    Haven't we already discussed this?

    I don't think I understand what you're talking about taking 621 "again
    and again"...

    MG
     
    Mostly Gizzards, Aug 30, 2007
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  11. Let's break this down... 70-621 earns you MCITP: Enterprise AND MCTS:
    Configuration. MCTS expires when Vista supports end and MCTIP needs to
    be renewed by taking the 70-621 again in 3 years. The difference is one
    is a technology specialty and the other is a job role.
     
    Michael D. Alligood [CertGuard, Inc.], Aug 30, 2007
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  12. Travis

    Tricia C Guest

    I emailed MS on this issue. Will post what they say. Note that on the 70-621 page it says:

    Note Exam 70-621 can be used as credit for any certification requiring Exam 70-620: TS: Windows Vista, Configuring, as a required or elective exam. In other words, Exam 70-621 satisfies the Exam 70-620 requirement in all cases.
     
    Tricia C, Nov 13, 2008
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  13. We would like to inform you that exam 70-621 will not cover the requirement for client operating systems for MCSA 2003.


    In replying I asked them to update the note on the 70-621 page.
     
    Tricia Cozier, Nov 14, 2008
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  14. Travis

    John R Guest

    Unfortunately, when dealing with people, people sometimes make mistakes.
    Such is the case here I believe. Also, unfortunately, the certification
    planner seems to be broke. However, if you look at MCSA on the
    certification planner (when it is not broke), you will see that the options
    for the client operating system list 70-210, 70-270, 70-620, and 70-621.
    When you complete 70-621, the certification planner will show the client OS
    as complete. Microsoft's system will correctly credit you, even if the
    people at the RSC don't understand it.

    Here it is straight from Trika at MS Learning. I would believe her before I
    would believe anything from the RSC.
    http://blogs.msdn.com/trika/archive/2007/09/19/get-rich-quick-scheme-for-mcdsts.aspx

    John R
     
    John R, Nov 14, 2008
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  15. Thank you for your e-mail regarding Exam 70-621.

    We apologize for the inconvenience caused to you because of previous communication.

    We would like to inform you that Exam 70-621 would count towards MCSA 2003 certification. In order to achieve MCSA certification you need to pass Exam 70-290 andf 70-291


    So yes passing 70-621 does give you the 70-620 os requirement for MCSA. With MCDST as your elective all thats left is 290 and 291.
     
    Tricia Cozier, Nov 17, 2008
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  16. Travis

    Mike W. Guest

    Greetings Tricia,
    The website also states that there is a 40% discount on the test 70-621.
    Is this accurate?


    Thanks,
     
    Mike W., Feb 6, 2009
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