Brain dumps

Discussion in 'A+ Certification' started by Kristopher Francisco, Feb 2, 2004.

  1. I do think that's going a little far. ;-)

    Anyway, I read something elsewhere that's brought me back to this thread.
    Apparently some people believe that if they read a braindump, the exact same
    questions are going to be on their own exam, therefore they only need to
    learn 1-a, 2-c, 3-b, etc. If this is the case then I fully understand
    people's venom. But as far as I was aware, there is a very large pool of
    questions, and we all get different exams. Isn't this the case?

    When I said I thought it was ok to look at them to get an idea of the type
    of questions, I didn't mean the EXACT questions, because I didn't think it
    worked like this.

    What really had me shaking my head in disbelief was discovering that there
    are places selling fake certs and even ID cards. Russ, please feel free to
    be as rude as you like to these people!

    JM
     
    Jonathan Miles, Feb 10, 2004
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  2. When I did my electronics engineering technology program years ago,
    the mornings were for classes and books and exams, and the afternoons
    were for practical labs that reinforced what we learned in the
    mornings. I still think that that was a balanced approach, and that it
    worked.

    Tom
     
    Tom MacIntyre, Feb 10, 2004
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  3. Kristopher Francisco

    SLICE Guest

    First let me apologize to everyone in the group!!! I allowed my temper
    to override my good sense after reading several posters sanctimonious
    opinions. This group has always been more than happy to answer
    questions and is a great asset to the computing community, THANK YOU!

    The point I was trying to make was, you learn by doing. Anyone can
    read a book or take practice exams to learn the material in question
    but an actual test of someone's ability is to have real world
    experience to back up the learning ( I know a catch 22).

    Kathy I would never discourage anyone from using whatever resources
    they have available, be it a book or a practice test or even a brain
    dump though the last two are the same thing. The idea is to pass a
    test, not to demonstrate what you need to know in the real world. My
    own father is a good example, at age 65 he has an MCSE and UNIX
    certifications yet does not know how to navigate in Windows, he read
    the books, took the tests and is certified.

    I know it is frustrating to work hard at something to only turn around
    and see someone who has achieved the same accomplishments because they
    went the easy way. Until the industry comes up with a better way of
    testing we will always have people taking the easy way, such is life.

    SLICE
     
    SLICE, Feb 10, 2004
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  4. Kristopher Francisco

    lglover Guest

    Just a quick note and thought on braindumps. I currently go to school for
    Information Systems Security. As I have done my entire life, I do the hands
    on approach to things and also read. When I am reading, I seem to take notes
    and write down what I deem important. Now, this could be constued as a
    brain-dump to some people. However, this would only be a dump if I wrote and
    someone else used it. I think we may need to be a little careful in what we
    are really considering a dump.
    I will be finished with school in another year and have my degree. Yeah,
    another piece of paper. I still believe in the concept that the paper means
    nothing, but employers want to see that you can take a test for somethings,
    so they can have a baseline. It is the paper people that are killing it for
    those of us that are really trying to learn the stuff, not take a test and
    then go I have this or that.
    As I am working on my last year of school, I have also started studying for
    the GIAC certification from SANS. All this just so I can work in security, I
    do believe that my future jobs title will be security guard instead of
    security specialist.
    Sorry for the long rant. I was just thinking that some dumps are actually
    notes that we write for ourselves. I will leave now.
     
    lglover, Feb 11, 2004
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  5. That could probably be a definition of a dump, but not the one generally
    used here. A braindump is where someone goes and takes the test, then comes
    out and immediately writes down every question they had, or uses some
    recording device to record every questin they had, and then uses that to
    give someone else a study guide of real questions. It is cheating, but is
    also against the non-disclosure statement that you sign at the beginning of
    the test.
     
    Simon Telrenner, Feb 17, 2004
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  6. There is nothing wrong with taking notes when you are studying; that's
    what I did through my 20 years of primary, secondary, and
    post-secondary education. There is also nothing wrong with sharing
    your notes, although in most circumstances other than helping someone
    out who was ill or who lost their own notes, it would be taking
    advantage of you, I think.

    Tom
     
    Tom MacIntyre, Feb 17, 2004
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