Best Inkjet Printer for Direct CD and DVD Labeling?

Discussion in 'Digital Photography' started by cmashieldscapting, May 27, 2006.

  1. cmashieldscapting

    measekite Guest

    you did not ask the right questions and they did not volunteer all of
    the information. yes the r300 technically as been discontinued but they
    have replaced it with other r series printers after making very minor
    adjustments. look for the r320 or r330 or whatever. these are any r
    series that uses dye ink and is of the standard format.
    is the stripped version of the r300

    using epson ink the r300 series replacements will be more vibrant than
    the r800 pigmented printer which can clog easier if not used a great
    deal and is much more costly.
    for most disks the r3xx dye based printer will provide all of the
    quality results you can ask for and all should last as long as the dye
    on the dvd/cd that holds the information as long as you use epson ink.
     
    measekite, Jun 1, 2006
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  2. cmashieldscapting

    Hendo Guest

    The ink does smear when printed on disk. I would like to know what disk
    they recommend.
    Not all 8 colors are used, matte black is not used in printing disk.
    I don't have any cloging issues with the R800. I have never used Epson
    ink in my R800, only Image Specialist and a CISS from day one.

    If you are looking for the best in quality and longevity, go with Epson
    OEM cartridges, expensive but still the best.
     
    Hendo, Jun 1, 2006
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  3. cmashieldscapting

    zakezuke Guest

    The r200 and r300 print the same. They are basicly the same printer
    with the exception of a screen and card slots.

    This sounds reasonable. I know my r200 experence for actual printing
    was good, as in the ink looked good on every disk I threw at it. My
    Canon requires tweeking, mostly setting the intensity +11 to +15
    depending on the discs I use.
    Yes, I had a link above regarding installing a waste tank on the r800,
    and it's not an easy task like the r200. Most inkjets spew ink into a
    waste area during the cleaning cycles, the epsons more so than others.
    This ink goes into a waste pad or a diaper. The printer will stop
    working when it believes the waste pad is full where at such time you
    take the printer in for service to replace the waste pads. An external
    tank would eliminate this step. The time at which it needs this
    procedure depends on how much you print.
    I can only speak for dye based printers, like the r200 and the canon
    ip3000/4000/5200. Printed discs can be played soon after printing.
    But as the label acts like paper, dirty hands and such will get on the
    surface as well.

    I don't have any reccomendation yet for a protective coating, but I can
    come up with a list of stuff that doesn't work, as in sprays which will
    damage the disc. Helmsman spar urethane will destroy data the fastest.
    The only thing that i've used so far that will not damage the disc are
    water based acrylics, but the sprays i've used thus far orange peal.
    The link I listed priviously listed an acryic some guy uses, sold at
    k-mart.
     
    zakezuke, Jun 1, 2006
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  4. cmashieldscapting

    measekite Guest

    oh i get it. you want to save money so you threw away $100 of epson ink
    that came with the printer. I think i understand.
    certainly that is true.
     
    measekite, Jun 2, 2006
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  5. Okay, they have an R 220 and an R 340. Because the R 340 costs more,
    does that make it any better a printer? If they both use the same ink
    and do the same job printing on disks, am I any better off with a 340
    than a 220? Thanks.

    Cori
     
    cmashieldscapting, Jun 2, 2006
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  6. cmashieldscapting

    Oldus Fartus Guest

    I think you are looking for problems which are minimal, at the least
    Cori. I have been using CD printing for nearly three years, starting
    with the Canon i865, then the IP3000 (which I still use), and the Epson
    R210 and R310, and have not struck any problems to date.

    As you quite rightly have said, one avoids exposing discs to moisture or
    rough handling.

    I have found print quality with both the Canon and Epson to range from
    fair to excellent, but that depends more on the disc printing surface
    than anything else. Some disc surfaces are not much better than plain
    paper quality, where others have a surface equivalent to photo paper,
    both gloss and semi-gloss.

    --
    Cheers
    Oldus Fartus
     
    Oldus Fartus, Jun 2, 2006
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  7. Since you have both an R 210 and R 310, perhaps you could give advice
    on the advantages (if any) of the R 340 over the R 220.

    Also, can anyone name preferences in disks, both for data performance
    and surface printability? Thanks.

    Cori
     
    cmashieldscapting, Jun 2, 2006
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  8. Where do you get five years when other sources claim a disk's life span
    is 20-200 years with 100 years being the average given by manufacturers
    if handled and stored correctly?

    Cori
     
    cmashieldscapting, Jun 2, 2006
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  9. cmashieldscapting

    Kevin Weaver Guest

    Maybe he bought the thing used with no ink.

     
    Kevin Weaver, Jun 2, 2006
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  10. cmashieldscapting

    Oldus Fartus Guest

    Unfortunately no, because mine are the earlier models. Assuming
    though, that the new and old models are similar, the R3xx has memory
    slots, a small screen, and an improved printer tray. Print quality is
    about the same with both models, as is speed.
    I have had good results with Verbatim, Imation and until recently, TDK.
    The last TDK discs I bought were rubbish, and I will not buy
    them again.
     
    Oldus Fartus, Jun 2, 2006
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  11. cmashieldscapting

    Hendo Guest

    No I sold the ink cartridges. Then I bought some IS ink and a CISS. I
    can understand your confusion.

    All you have to do is read your own post to be confused. Example below:

    Your answer is as follows:
    Then 3 days later your answer changes. read below:
    Your answer is as follows:

    Sorry for the confusion.
     
    Hendo, Jun 2, 2006
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  12. cmashieldscapting

    Frank Guest

    He makes up the answer. He has been lying in the ng now for years.
    Frank
     
    Frank, Jun 2, 2006
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  13. cmashieldscapting

    Frank Guest

    Don't believe one word that meashershithead post as he is pathological liar.
    Frank
     
    Frank, Jun 2, 2006
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  14. cmashieldscapting

    J. Clarke Guest

    Those figures are based on accelerated aging tests, not on practical
    experience, and there's not enough real-world longevity data to be able to
    determine whether the accelerated aging tests have covered all the
    applicable variables. Remember when it was discovered that despite all the
    accelerated aging tests, certain "archival" inks and papers that were
    supposed to be good for decades were in fact developing an orange cast
    within weeks due to circumstances that had not been considered in the
    accelerated aging tests?

    Also, it depends on the particular chemistry, there are several in use.

    This gets discussed regularly in a number of places and the bottom line is
    that one should not place excessive faith in the claims of longevity
    presented by any manufacturer of consumer optical media.
     
    J. Clarke, Jun 2, 2006
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  15. cmashieldscapting

    measekite Guest

    do a goodle search and go to the sites where they show how the cds are
    mfg and explain about the different types of dye.

    http://www.cdmediaworld.com/hardware/cdrom/cd.shtml

    this is one site you should read. somewhere it tells of the lifespan
    and quality of the various dyes that make up the media. what ever
    sources you are reading from are totally unrealliable or you
    misunderstood what they were saying
     
    measekite, Jun 2, 2006
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  16. cmashieldscapting

    measekite Guest

    the r3xx series has card readers. i am not sure what the other
    differences are but they will be in the specs on the epson website. my
    friend has an r300 and likes it. he prints many cd/dvds and has only
    had trouble with the cd tray, a known problem. however, he saw the
    photo results from my canon ip4000 and did admit that the canon produces
    better results. if not for the ability to print directly on cd that he
    wanted he would have bought the canon.
    the ink and the printhead should be the same. therefore the print
    quality should be the same. the keyword is should. check the epson
    site. but i think that the rxx has more additional features and when on
    sale the price difference is meaningless. also check the weight of the
    machines. if the weight differential appears to be greater than what a
    card reader weighs than there must be other differences which account
    for the difference.
     
    measekite, Jun 2, 2006
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  17. cmashieldscapting

    John H. Guest

    I use the Taiyo Yuden white printable cds.never had a coaster yet.
    get the r200 or r220 printer you wont be sorry that you did,
    John.H.
     
    John H., Jun 2, 2006
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  18. Thanks, John. It was my plan to buy a batch of 50 Taiyo Yudens, and,
    if they seem to work fine, stick with them, if not, switch to Verbatim
    for the next batch.

    I might buy an R 340 if there's one at a bargain, otherwise, for the
    purposes for which I actually want the printer, don't see why an R 220
    wouldn't do.

    Cori
     
    cmashieldscapting, Jun 2, 2006
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  19. measekite wrote
    I assume "card readers" are for digital cameras, which I don't have or
    plan on getting.
    Same here, if the cheap so-and-sos would fix it so it wasn't so
    difficult for U. S. consumers to use their machine for that.
    I'm thinking if I can get a bargain on the R 340 even if it's slightly
    more it would be smarter to get the higher-end machine.

    Cori
     
    cmashieldscapting, Jun 2, 2006
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  20. cmashieldscapting

    zakezuke Guest

    Firstly you should know that measekite is the troll of
    comp.periphs.printers. He has no experence above and beyond his Canon
    iP4000 and some HP product. One and a while he says something useful,
    but before taking anything he has to say as the truth, review his
    google profie.
    http://groups.google.com/groups/pro...ADEx8x8Ar5cT9MycNaTjCAv8rhlH0Pnl47z4AZhN98BFg
    They are used for more than digital cameras, they are often used for
    sneaker net, as in getting data from point A to point B. I use mine on
    my mp760 from time to time, mostly to copy data to CD-R.

    It really is just one part, and a few button presses. I am using the
    same tray on my ip3000, my mp760, and my ip5200. I also have hacked
    trays and i've made a few out of photo paper and raison bran boxes.


    If you go r2x0/r3x0 series. well, I would normally say you can get the
    r200 referb from the epson store, but it looks like they are presently
    out of stock. When they are in stock the r200 they are $59, or less
    than the ink it comes with by about $10.00. They however currently
    have the r220 for $71.00, and the r320 for $99. At least with the
    r220, it's about the same cost as ink withink a buck or two, and if
    it's not to your needs you only spent as much as the ink it comes with.


    While in some cases I see spending more money, with the r3x0 series,
    near as i'm aware, you just get a screen and card slots for your extra
    dollars, not a better printer.

    While i'm not a big fan of this series, they are under warranty for a
    year, failure gets you free ink, and the price is so low if it only
    lasts a year it's no great loss.
     
    zakezuke, Jun 2, 2006
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