BD-J review - Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest

Discussion in 'DVD Video' started by asjbiotek, Jun 7, 2007.

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    asjbiotek Guest

    asjbiotek, Jun 7, 2007
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  2. Oh, nice to see you back:

    In the meantime--
    - PS3 declared a flop in the US,
    - Sony Japan "reshuffled" (aka fired) chief division executive responsible,
    - Blu-Ray players now slashed its hardware prices to cheaper than
    expensive PS3's, therefore making it now cost-ineffective to say "Buy a
    PS3 and be a Blu-Ray cheapskate!"
    - As of October industry mandate, all US Blu-Ray players' BD-Java now
    has to actually be *functional*.

    ....But we're still waiting to hear more headlines! :)

    Derek Janssen (oh, and those big baseball bats we're holding? Uh, we
    were....going to have a softball game later--Yeah, that's it!)
    Derek Janssen, Jun 7, 2007
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    Doug Jacobs Guest

    So, the biggest title for the PS3 isn't a's a movie?

    If I wanted a BD player, they're now cheaper than the PS3 which comes with
    no remote, no HD cables, and has a mostly useless game console attached to
    Doug Jacobs, Jun 7, 2007
  4. can still put the POTC2 disk on the PS3 and play
    Liar's Dice!

    Derek Janssen (can't do that on a Wii!)
    Derek Janssen, Jun 7, 2007
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    asjbiotek Guest

    Really? Must be news to all those PS3 owners who use it for just about
    everything - music, games. movies, and even contributing processing
    power for medical research (more than 250,000 PS3s provide free
    computing power to the medical grid)

    Oh, haven't dropped in awhile but some
    1. Blu-ray continues to widen its sales lead over Hd-DVD

    2. Matrix on Hd-dvd, which was hyped by toshiba/microsoft and was the
    biggest hd -dvd release this year was a complete disaster, selling
    only 13k units!
    asjbiotek, Jun 7, 2007
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    Sean Black Guest

    The fact that you could only buy it as a trilogy and not just the first
    movie on it's own may not have helped on that score. I would have bought
    just the first one, I have no interest in the other two.
    Sean Black, Jun 8, 2007
  7. da PS3 iz da bessed sistym in da eunafirst!!!!!!!!!!da PS3 iz outcellin alda
    udderz kombind!!!!!!!!!!!!da PS3 iz outcellin yu XFLop 1.5 thre-shiity fool
    sirkil fanfaireez
    Hank the Raper, Jun 8, 2007
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    Doug Jacobs Guest

    The only reason to buy a PS3 is for the games, of which there are precious
    few - not what I'd consider a good use of $600.

    Movies - I have separate hardware for that.

    Paralell computing project - it's pretty sad that this still gets touted
    as one of the best features of a GAME CONSOLE.

    Give me games - good, exclusive games - and maybe we'll talk about how
    awesome the PS3 is. Right now, it's a $600 console that has maybe 2 decent
    exclusives, and is undergoing an identity crisis with regards to its online
    Which matters why, exactly? Even if blu-ray conquers the video market,
    what exactly does that do for the PS3 as a gaming console? NOTHING. But,
    oh, it'll be a $600 movie player in a market flooded by $300 players.
    Yeah, that's a bright future.

    And even though HD video sales slowly increase, they still only make up
    what, 1%, compared to what DVD is still doing.
    Did you ever stop to think that this could be because:
    * 80% of the market doesn't even have a HDTV - so HD-DVD and Blu-Ray are
    worthless to them.

    * People already bought each movie separately, then bought the "ultimate
    collection" - just how many times do you expect people to purchase the
    same movies over and over again? (that goes for blu-ray titles too, you

    * Most of that 20% who already own a HDTV aren't getting involved with the
    format war.

    So, enjoy your blu-ray movies on your under-featured, overpriced blu-ray
    player that sometimes thinks it's a game console.

    The rest of us are content to wait out the format war while playing
    consoles that actually have decent libraries.
    Doug Jacobs, Jun 8, 2007
  9. You have to excuse the BluRay fanboys, they do get carried away
    sometimes. Right now you have two competing formats that essentially
    look and sound the same, fighting over a tiny marketshare and trying to
    figure out what it takes to make it all fly off the shelves.

    Neither has figured it out yet.
    The Matrix set sold quite well considering it was about $80 or more for
    the disks. In sales of disks, BluRay vs HDDVD is about 52:48 or
    somewhere thereabouts. Shows that neither are doing as well as some had
    Lloyd Parsons, Jun 8, 2007
  10. Remember way, wayy back when the old monochrome-green Nintendo Gameboy
    was falling behind the color handhelds?...
    And all of a sudden, for some mysterious reason, you didn't see actual
    *kids* playing it in the ads anymore, after they started pitching the
    game to the demographic of yuppie grownups who didn't know any better?:
    "A perfect gift for Father's Day!"
    One wonders how their dignity ever recovered from that fatal blow. -_-

    ....I don't know why the "PS3's are cool because they're now being used
    for RESEARCH!" as a selling point reminds me of those ads; it just does,
    for some reason. :)

    Derek Janssen
    Derek Janssen, Jun 8, 2007
  11. No, just that post-Christmas Blu spike, after all the PS3
    gamerz/cheapskates got their free disk in the mail, had now been matched
    by everyone latching onto a Toshiba HD in May, after the $299 player got
    in all the headlines...

    Proving that people STILL don't know the difference yet; they're just
    still too darn cheap to care. :)

    Derek Janssen (which, as noted, pretty well lets out PS3 at this point)
    Derek Janssen, Jun 8, 2007
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    Doug Jacobs Guest

    Which is why the whole thing is pointless. Worse still, you have the PS3
    fanboys clamoring for something positive to say about their $600 purchase,
    and then end up talking about Blu-Ray movies and [email protected]
    Just looked on Amazon. Yikes!
    Doug Jacobs, Jun 8, 2007
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    Jordan Guest

    You missed the part where it takes 4 minutes to start watching the
    movie (after you download and install a firmware patch) and then you
    still can't play Liar's Dice. On a $1000 player.


    Video here:

    - Jordan
    Jordan, Jun 9, 2007
  14. It's that BD-J thing. Five more months. -_-

    Derek Janssen
    Derek Janssen, Jun 9, 2007
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    GMAN Guest

    Waaaa, next you are going to complain that these new fangled memory styx are
    replacing your floppy drive. i mean according to you, that is all the storage
    you need.

    games are already getting too big to fit on DVD, I hope you enjoy swapping
    disks with Halo3 on your 360.

    You meant the few dozen 360 titles and handfull of old XBOX titles that play
    on it, or the 5000+ library of PS1,PS2, and PS3 games?
    GMAN, Jun 9, 2007
  16. No, it's the exact same "Indiana Jones Boxset" complaint of "Why should
    we be saddled with the two other crappy sequels, mandatory, just to
    buy/upgrade our copy of the first movie with the new extras we
    wanted?--You couldn't PAY me to own the second and third movie!! >_< "

    Derek Janssen
    Derek Janssen, Jun 9, 2007
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    asjbiotek Guest

    You must have missed the part where the problem for some Blu-ray
    players was fixed by a simple firmware update.

    Contrast this with Hd-DVD, where 33% of Matrix owner reported problems
    even PLAYING the title and either had to RETURN it or BOIL AND SCRUB
    the discs...

    I mean, how SAD is that????

    Blu-ray problems fixed by a simple firmware update, Hd-DVD owners
    returning discs or BOILING them???
    asjbiotek, Jun 10, 2007
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    asjbiotek Guest

    1. Selling 13k units TOTAL for the two sets for one of the most
    anticipated titles in HD-DVD, one which was promoted like crazy by
    microsoft and toshiba, and one that was touted by Hd-DVD backers as
    the "turnaround" for Hd-DVD is a TOTAL disaster.

    You can't even make the price argument because at this time what
    counts is the userbase, and having only 13,000 units is a big flop in
    the face for toshib a and microsoft.

    2. Blu-ray has consistently been outselling and widening its lead
    every week. It was 69:31 last week....
    asjbiotek, Jun 10, 2007
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    skip Guest

    wrote in

    Why would anyone want to pay more to see the same quality HD picture????
    skip, Jun 10, 2007
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    Doug Jacobs Guest

    Where did I complain about size in the above statement? My point is that
    people already purchased Matrix. Why should they re-purchase it so soon?
    There just isn't the same jump in quality this time that we saw with going
    from VHS to DVD.
    Have you looked at the game sizes? On the 360, every game - save one -
    has fit onto a DVD. The only game that doesn't fit on a single DVD is
    Blue Dragon, but as a RPG, that's nothing new.
    *sigh* I went over this before:

    * The PS2 is better at playing PS2 and PS1 games than the US-PS3, and
    definitely better than the EU-PS3 which uses software emulation.

    * If you truly want to play PS2/PS1 games, buy a PS2 - it's less than
    1/4th the cost of the PS3.

    Now then, you mention "the few dozen 360 titles", but how many titles does
    the PS3 again? Oh, yes, but it makes a darn good [email protected] client.
    Yeah, that's what I'm looking for in a game console.
    Doug Jacobs, Jun 11, 2007
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