Discussion in 'Computer Information' started by Loony, Aug 4, 2012.

  1. Loony

    Loony Guest

    Hello Everywun :)

    Last night I downloaded an FLVPlayer and it had two smaller progs that
    might be useful. I let it go and soon found that one of the progs was
    that ghastly BabylonObjectInstaller.

    I was able to knock out some of the items related to that monster prog
    so it is not functioning now. How to kick it off the 'Programs and
    Features' of Win 7.

    Loony, Aug 4, 2012
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  2. Loony

    Paul Guest

    The first one here, seems unlikely.

    This is for handling issues at the browser level, for Firefox.

    "Total luck here, but installing free programs Malwarebytes and Spywareblaster,
    running both scans, restarting system, Babylon had gone.

    It may or may not work for you. I think it was the settings in Spywareblaster
    that killed it, but I don't know for sure."

    Of those, Malwarebytes sounds OK. But may not fix it. I don't know about


    The description of SpywareBlaster, looks like a "closing the gate after
    the horse has bolted" type solution. There's no reason to think it would
    stop something already in place, but it may.

    You can try Programs and Features control panel first, and try and
    remove it. Next, work on the web browser(s) and their plugins/add-ons.

    Or, give Malwarebytes a try and see if it'll handle it.

    Paul, Aug 4, 2012
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  3. Loony

    Loony Guest

    Thank you again Paul - Always there to help :)

    I have used the FLVPlayer for some years and I downloaded a higher
    version. It soon broke up and that Babylon piece of crap had wormed its
    way out and onto 'Programs and Features.' I tried to dump it and a small
    window popped open and it appeared to be trying to get rid of it. I
    waited about 5 minutes but it seemed to be stuck there.

    Is there no law to prevent these ghastly, time-wasting, pieces of crap?
    Will try your progs.
    Loony, Aug 5, 2012
  4. Loony

    Paul Guest

    A hint, is when a download offers a "stub" installer.

    I downloaded an Applian version of FLVPlayer, and it was only 300KB or so.

    A scan on that using, had nine of forty two AV programs
    detect a problem. Not a bad problem, but that "adware" was involved.

    The stub installer, then downloads a ton of other junk.

    If your AV was good, it's supposed to detect the crap as
    it comes into the computer.

    "Honest" software, downloads in one chunk, like a 20MB file.

    "Honest" software isn't packed with UPX, so you can burrow into
    it with 7ZIP or a hex editor, and look for signs of crapware.

    When the software attempts to hide things, that's a hint what
    is hiding and waiting for you later. UPX packing is used more
    often for mischief, as opposed to being used just to save
    download bytes. And stub installers aren't particularly a good

    I judge software by its characteristics, before clicking the
    installer when it arrives. If it isn't very trustworthy looking,
    then I have to do a lot of extra work to find out what I've got.

    This is why I have "zero" toolbars so far. Never trust anyone.
    Especially the download sites that bundle their own crapware,
    on top of your download.

    Paul, Aug 5, 2012
  5. Loony

    Loony Guest

    Once more, I thank you Paul.

    I just tried to use Internet Explorer and here is what I got:

    It took over the whole page. I tried to use Chrome and the position did

    These are my 2 main progs and I could not do much until I opened Apple's
    Safari. This was the only one - - that was
    not strangled. I am now so worn out that I need to take a break.

    I should have told you that I am paying McAffee to ptotect my computer
    but it seems to be incompetent, apart from mickey mouse situations. I
    have notified them that I am in trouble.
    A "stub" meaning that there is a bunch of progs riding on it????
    AV is new to me unless it is Avira.
    Understood now.
    The stub installers need their throats slit.
    From now on, I will download only from extremely careful web sites.
    Can you suggest a few of the best ones for this situation? I rarely add
    new progs and, from now on, I will download much less.
    Would a new law not be able to strangle those scumbag rats?
    Thanks again :)
    Loony, Aug 5, 2012
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