Any email services which don't block spam?!

Discussion in 'Computer Support' started by Sal_55, Sep 20, 2008.

  1. Sal_55

    Sal_55 Guest

    I'm registering with an internet forum,but before I can post I must
    click an activation link they send to my email account. But the
    trouble is that none of my 3 email services,Google,Yahoo or Lycos let
    the email through,as they consider it to be spam. Does anyone know of
    any email services which have NO spamguard?
    Thanks and bye.
     
    Sal_55, Sep 20, 2008
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  2. Sal_55

    Sal_55 Guest

    Thanks Bill, I didn't know if Yahoo or the others had the option to
    whitelist.
     
    Sal_55, Sep 20, 2008
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  3. Sal_55

    Archiver Guest

    Sal_55 wrote:
    User-Agent: G2/1.0

    You are reading and posting to a usenet newsgroup with googlegroups. That
    is not a good choice. See below.
    Gmail lets the mail thru' and may sort it into the Spam folder. You can
    access the mail in the spam folder and mark it as not spam. You can also
    add the sender to your whitelist as described by gmail, which will usually
    solve the spam-labeling problem.

    http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=9008&topic=12852 If
    you find a message wrongly classified as spam, you can unmark the message.
    Just select the message, and click the Not Spam button that appears at the
    top and bottom of your current view. Unmarking a message will
    automatically move it to your inbox.

    http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=8933 Also, each time
    you unmark a message as Spam, your Contacts list is automatically updated
    so that future messages from that sender are received in your inbox.

    http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=10514 While adding a
    sender to your Contacts will typically prevent their messages from being
    classified as spam, this rule does not apply when: <snip long answer>


    Some of the problems with using GG googlegroups to read&post to usenet
    are:
    - many usenetters filter all posts from GGers for a number of good
    reasons, so your posts will be seen and replied by less people who can be
    helpful
    - GG doesn't provide any filtering of the spam and hipcrime, making for a
    lot of junk which can be filtered by better agents
    - GG doesn't provide useful flexibility in threading or organizing the
    posts you read
    - there are important groups which are not carried by GG
    - it is much better to use a newsreader and a newsserver than GG - and
    there are good free readers and newsservers
     
    Archiver, Sep 20, 2008
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  4. Sal_55

    Sal_55 Guest

    Thanks Mike for all your advice.
     
    Sal_55, Sep 21, 2008
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  5. Mine has a place where you can move spam to a folder for review... They may
    not all have this however. I do it for reasons like you are describing.
     
    Matt Michaels, Sep 21, 2008
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  6. Sal_55

    VanguardLH Guest

    Well, if it really was detected as spam, that mail would be in your
    Junk/Spam folder. Use the webmail interface to your account to go look
    in those server-side folders (if using POP, you won't see them in your
    local e-mail client, but if using IMAP then those folders should be
    shown in your local e-mail client).

    Yahoo Mail accounts can be optioned to disable their server-side spam
    filter. Gmail has their spam filter always enabled which is rude to
    users that may not want any spam filtering on their account. I don't
    know what Lycos does but you could dig around in the server-side options
    using the webmail interface to that account.

    If the mail source is blocked then the e-mail is never delivered to your
    mailbox so it won't appear in any folder. You can't do anything about
    who your e-mail providers blocks for source mail hosts other than to ask
    them why they are blocking that mail source. However, if blocked, the
    sender would then get back an NDR (non-delivery report) from their own
    sending mail host because of the rejection during the mail session
    between that sending mail host and the receiving mail host. Whether
    that rejection results in any notification in your situation depends on
    whether or not those NDRs are handled or discarded. With the
    confirmation process that sends out an e-mail to complete a site
    registration, those scripts and server probably discard any failed mail
    sessions due to non-delivery, and it is likely you won't get to see the
    NDR e-mail to see why it said the mail session was rejected by the
    receiving mail host.

    Most likely the configurmation e-mail is sitting in a server-side
    Junk/Spam folder so you'll have to use the webmail interface to your
    account to go look in those server-side folders, especially if using POP
    access to your account. With IMAP, like for Gmail, you should have a
    local copy of its Junk folder in your e-mail client to see those suspect
    mails in there. Once you get their e-mail, you might want to whitelist
    that sender (although the username will probably be different for the
    confirmation e-mail than for the later e-mail notifications for new
    posts in a discussion to which you subscribe). That forum site should
    provide info on what e-mail addresses or domains you should whitelist to
    get their confirmation and notification e-mails.
     
    VanguardLH, Sep 21, 2008
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    Whiskers Guest

    Operamail seems to have no spam filter in place (you can mark messages as
    spam in the web interface, and that moves them into your 'trash folder',
    but that's all it does). You have to pay if you want a 'Premium' account
    to be able to use a POP client with Operamail. But FreePOPs works ;))

    Yahoo's "Spamguard" is optional, you can disable it from the web
    interface. You can also look for messages in the 'spam folder' there, and
    mark as 'not spam' any messages you find there - that moves them into the
    'inbox' (from where your POP client should be able to download them, if
    you have it set up appropiately). You can also use the web interface to
    set up an 'address book' there which should work as a 'whitelist' so that
    messages from those contacts are not put through the spam filter at all.
     
    Whiskers, Sep 21, 2008
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  8. Sal_55

    Sal_55 Guest

    Thanks for all the help folks. But even after turning off the spam
    guard in Yahoo and lycos, the activation link from the forum is still
    not getting through!
    This is really weird. I'd welcome any further advice. Bye.
     
    Sal_55, Sep 22, 2008
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  9. Sal_55

    Whiskers Guest

    Most mailing lists have a "List-Help:" header in their emails, giving an
    email address or other contact where you can (with a bit of luck) get
    technical help without posting to the list itself. There may be a web
    site where you can register instead of using email, or find technical help
    for using the list.

    I can think of only three reasons for an email not getting through to you,
    if it isn't falling into a spam filter: you have mis-typed your own email
    address in your application, or the emails you expect are not in fact
    being sent at all, or the emails are being sent from such an unlikely or
    notorious mail server that all your own email service providers simply
    drop anything they get from it without even 'looking'.
     
    Whiskers, Sep 22, 2008
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