After Crash No Boot neither from HDD nor from CD

Discussion in 'Windows 64bit' started by Arno, May 30, 2006.

  1. Arno

    Arno Guest

    After a SystemCrash I can't boot my notebook... neither from CD nor from
    HDD. For a short time there is the "normal" XP-Boot Menu but regardles what
    I select (Safe Boot, SB with Net.... etc) the system hangs up.

    The CD is booting until Win-Setup is tarting Windows, then it hangs ag
    ain...

    Can't get the Console, can't repair... so what to do??? PANIC

    Regards Arno
     
    Arno, May 30, 2006
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  2. I do not have a whole lot of experience with failing notebooks, the only
    time mine gives me a hickup is when the power is low. It used to be
    recommended practice to regularly let the battery drain completely before
    re-charging, or it could stop recieving charge as well as giving up any
    charge - that is, lock up completely.

    Can you try and remove the battery and plug it in, if you think this could
    be the cause?

    What happened when it crashed?


    Tony. . .
     
    Tony Sperling, May 30, 2006
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  3. Arno

    Arno Guest

    No Tony it's not the battery. The system hangs up during normal work and I
    had to power-off it to reboot. After the reboot the stated error occurred.

    As far as I found out something on the HDD either the MBR or the Bootsector
    or the Partition-Table is defective.

    As I said I tried to start Winsetup for getting into the recovery console
    but every time the system tries to access the HDD it hangs up...

    Arno
     
    Arno, May 30, 2006
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  4. Are you getting far enough into the boot process that you can access the
    BIOS?

    If it was just the MBR it wouldn't affect the CD booting and if you see the
    XP boot screen the process will have left the HD completely, I think.

    The crash could possibly have reset your BIOS to default and lost the boot
    information as a consequence.

    I would start there!


    Tony. . .
     
    Tony Sperling, May 30, 2006
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  5. Arno

    Arno Guest

    Once again I'm sorry Tony but the BIOS entries are OK, they didn't change.
    (The BIOS is detecting the HDD everytime, no other mode than 'Auto'
    available).

    The strange thing is I can boot from a non-XP Boot-CD into "normal" DOS
    loading NTFS-Support that works fine. I can use several utilities to scan
    the DD, read the Partition-Table, rewrite the MBR, scan for lost Partitions
    etc etc... evrything works but XP won't bother 'bout this... it just doesn't
    start...

    I don't know wether x64 writes some special entrries into the MBR or
    Bootsector which I can't repair with normal utilities or whatever else...

    Just searching for help from MS but at the momemt there is no response...

    Arno
     
    Arno, May 30, 2006
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  6. First, check your BIOS settings are not corrupted.
    Then, check the memory. Memtest is a good utility for this.
    If these are not the cause, download and run your disk manufacturer's
    testing utility.

    Be aware that if there is a fault in the disk controller or the memory
    controller on the motherboard you may get numerous errors reported when the
    component itself is good.

    If these tests do not reveal the faulty component, either you have a random
    corruption or there is some fault in the notebook.
    I suggest that you should remove the hard disk, see if another system can
    read it, and back up your data.

    You can then try reformatting the hard drive and reinstalling or let a
    notebook specialist check the system.
     
    Dominic Payer, May 30, 2006
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  7. Arno

    Rick Guest

    Your description of symptom sounds like one of my situations. The
    problem turned out to be the DRAM. The RAM I had purchased was not one
    of the recommended brands for my board. Windows, any version, would not
    install and setup - I had various BSOD faults. After I contacted the MB
    manufacturer and purchased one of the brands of memory on their
    recommended list, all my problems disappeared.

    What MB do you have? What DRAM (DDR) do you have installed?
     
    Rick, May 30, 2006
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  8. Arno

    Arno Guest

    It's a all-in-one notebook with the original RAM on it, i never changed that
    configuration. it worked fine for months without any problems...
     
    Arno, May 30, 2006
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  9. Arno

    Rick Guest

    Then I would suspect something in the notebook has failed - maybe the RAM.
     
    Rick, May 30, 2006
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  10. Arno

    Guest Guest

    Paisan is my handle.. Bob is my name.
     
    Guest, May 31, 2006
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  11. Couldn't you do your strolling here? That way the whole lot of us might
    benefit? If you charge nothing, you'll lose nothing, right?


    Tony. . .
     
    Tony Sperling, May 31, 2006
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  12. Arno

    Arno Guest

    Well well... there were many comments but nothing what helps to fix my
    problem... but nevertheless I fixed it. A friend of mine helped me with
    ERD-Commander and with that I could boot and fix the badly damaged
    Bootsector and Partition-Table... Many thanks to him.

    Arno
     
    Arno, Jun 1, 2006
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  13. Arno

    Rick Guest

    Obviously Win x64 is not always the culprit!

     
    Rick, Jun 1, 2006
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