here is a reminder of what someone else said a *long* time ago(august 28, 2003) Ok I hate to say it but I think I am on the verge of crossing over. I have been visiting the MCSA and MCSE groups a couple of times a day for the last 2 months. During this time I have come to the conclusion that if all these people who ask these worthless questions get certified my MCSA/MCSE will only garner me minimum wage if I am lucky. I have tried to be nice and post useful information but the constant barrage of the same repetitive question has pushed me to the limit. One would assume others could go to the MS train cert section and download the completely obvious answers to these redundant question. As said before by others, how are these people going to provide an adequate level of support if they can not even do search on the MS web site for training information. My next question is why can individuals not search the 3563 post in the MCSA group and get the answer to their own questions. Rant ove for now Rick