54g Wireless modem/router recommendation/advice wanted

Discussion in 'Home Networking' started by Sunil Sood, Feb 29, 2004.

  1. Sunil Sood

    Sunil Sood Guest

    I am in the market for a wireless 54G adsl modem/router and am looking at

    Netgear DG834G (£115)
    Belkin 7630 (£107)
    Linksys WAG54G (£87)

    If anyone has any idea's/recommendations on which to choose and why I'd be

    The modem/router will be connected to 2 Belkin 54G PCI cards - is there any
    advantage of choosing a Belkin modem/router as well? (i.e. anything I can do
    with that combination that I can't do if I use a different make?)

    Also, I believe the Netgear DG834G says that it will support ADSL 2 after a
    firmware upgrade is released - does anyone know if the other makes will also
    support that?

    And of course, if there are any other makes I should consider... (yes, I
    know the Vigor 2600G looks very nice but its also a lot more expensive!)

    Sunil Sood, Feb 29, 2004
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    2pods Guest

    I've just changed over from a Belkin usb "b", and a Dlink on the laptop via
    ICS with speedtouch to a Vigour2600G, a Draytek "g" laptop card, and a Dlink
    GWL 520G pci card.
    It worked first time.

    However, I noticed on the pci card a setting for "Xtreme G" which is faster
    (probably on the lines of Us Robotic's Turbo mode), but I assumeall the kit
    would have to Dlink.

    There's also an "Xpress" mode on the Belkin 54g pci card. Probably the same
    2pods, Mar 1, 2004
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  3. Sunil Sood

    Martin² Guest

    You have been around here long enough to know Netgear is potential trouble,
    you get no support and the firmware upgrades cause more trouble then you
    started with.
    I know the Draytek seems expensive, but after struggling with Netgear kit
    for a week, it's well worth it !
    Belkin also gets fair share of complaints.
    Martin², Mar 1, 2004
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    Mike.P® Guest

    Dunno about Netgear being potential trouble but I have only been
    around here for a week or 2 and have seen this question asked at least
    5 times.
    When I bought my wireless router I sat and read through this group,
    took note of what others suggested and then completely ignored
    everyone and made my purchase...couldn't be happier with it either.

    Do people not read the groups before asking anymore?
    Mike.P®, Mar 1, 2004
  5. Sunil Sood

    Sunil Sood Guest

    As Martin says, I have been here for a very long time (in the uk groups at
    least) - so yes, I have read all the other posts, done the google groups
    thing and posted anyway.

    If only as the other questions I asked (Re ADSL 2 and using different makes
    with Belkin 54G cards = functionallity diferences or not) have never been
    answered or at least not to my satisfaction

    I am fully aware that some people, like Martin have had problems with
    certain Netgear models and Netgear appear to have a habit (with the DG814
    for instance) of having to release quite a few firmware versions before
    "fixing" the problems and there have been a lot fewer comments about the
    DG834G after the 1.03 firmware was released (though its still not perfect)

    Also, the Belkin also has had quite a few problems when launched - however,
    after they released their firmware update - it seems to have fixed
    most/all(?) of the problems - at least virtually everyone has stopped
    commenting on it.

    Finally, the Linksys WAG54G is very new - I have seen virtually no comments
    on it and I don't think you can even buy it in the US...

    I suppose there is also the USR 9106 model but there is very little
    discussion on that nodel as well.

    The Draytek does sem very nice and is often recommended but is also 60/70%
    more expensive

    Hence, I would appreciate comments from anyone running uptto date firmware
    on these devices.

    Sunil Sood, Mar 1, 2004
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    Mark Allison Guest

    I was in the same position as you last week. I am getting switched on
    tomorrow hopefully, and initally was choosing between the NetGear and
    the Linksys. After doing a bit of research I found that a lot of users
    were having problems with these so I went for the US Robotics 9106. I
    know that plenty of users don't have ANY problems with Netgear or
    Linksys wireless routers, but I found that there were plenty who WERE.
    Mark Allison, Mar 1, 2004
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    AnToNio Guest

    I would skip all 3 and go for a USR 8054. lousy software, lousy helpdesk
    but great performance signalwise.
    AnToNio, Mar 1, 2004
  8. Sunil Sood

    Sunil Sood Guest

    Thanks but that model doesn't contain a built in ADSL modem - if I went with
    USR, it would have to be the USR 9106 - a model which is relatively new and
    there has not been much feedback on.

    Sunil Sood, Mar 1, 2004
  9. I set one of these up for my sister about a month ago, since when it has
    worked unattended (she lives in a different town) with one cabled computer
    and one wireless laptop. Setup was very easy. There is a utility disk
    supplied, but you can ignore it because everything can be done via a normal
    web browser (or telnet if you're a masochist). My only criticism is that the
    unit takes slightly more electrical power (about 17W) than I would be really
    happy about for something that is to be left switched on all the time, and
    consequently gets rather warm, but it works well. If it's switched off, it
    locks up again in about 30 seconds, indicating this with front pamnel
    "Buy it cheap, buy it twice", as they say. You may be able to find something
    cheaper than a Draytek that does everything you need, but I would recommend
    that at least you go for a reputable manufacturer who provide backup, and
    who are mentioned in a positive light in newsgroups such as this one. The
    best advice you will get about the reliability of a piece of technology is
    from other people who have already bought one and are using it. Buy the
    right unit for the job and the only thing you'll need to do to it is brush
    the dust off it every couple of years.

    Roderick Stewart, Mar 1, 2004
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    Larry Riffle Guest

    No opinion on Draytek but a huge amen to the Netgear comment.
    Larry Riffle, Mar 1, 2004
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    Lurch Guest

    I think it's all down to personal preference. I've noticed similar
    questions coming up and different comments coming up every time.
    I personally have fitted plenty Netgear modems, routers, firewalls,
    switches and other items of theirs into various clients offices and at
    my own home and offices and had no trouble at all. OTOH we had three
    Draytek modems supplied by an ISP and had nothing but trouble.

    A.C.S. Ltd.
    Lurch, Mar 1, 2004
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    Kathy Burke Guest

    I'm a new user and bought the Netgear DG834G a few days ago. It was my
    first set up and everything was up and running within 15 minutes. I
    connected a second machine to it in a few more and my laptop with a Netgear
    WG511 card. It's only a few days but it's all working still and it seemed

    It is also pleasent looking and has nice lights!
    Kathy Burke, Mar 1, 2004
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    Mike.P® Guest

    That's the one I went for.
    Been connected 2 weeks without a drop and the wireless signal is full
    strength to the pc upstairs.
    As I said...couldn't be happier with it.
    Mine came with a free (but useless as I don't have one) laptop card so
    had to also purchase a pci card..but all in all I am well impressed.

    There you go...now you can ignore me as I did others :)
    Mike.P®, Mar 1, 2004
  14. Netgear's target demographic summed up in a nutshell.

    Benedict Addis, Mar 1, 2004
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    picknose Guest

    Don't get a Belkin router unless you like being redirected to the Belkin
    site when you're least expecting it, or enjoy being spammed by your own
    router. Also the support section on their website is crap. Apart from that
    they do the job I suppose.

    I have experience of Belkin and Netgear products, and the Belkin stuff
    definitely seems to be more "Mickey Mouse". The Netgear documentation and
    website are much more professional, although admittedly the DG814 firmware
    was a bit flaky for a while.

    I would never buy Blekin again if they are prepared to incorporate
    "features" like this into their hardware:

    picknose, Mar 1, 2004
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    Sunil Sood Guest

    Yes - I remember that.. still it only took them a couple of days for them to
    realise the magnitude of their error and release new firmware.

    I doubt they will be trying anything like that anytime soon! :)

    Sunil Sood, Mar 1, 2004
  17. On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 15:37:16 -0000, picknose spoketh
    This is old news, and have been fixed a long time ago...

    Lars M. Hansen
    Remove "bad" from my e-mail address to contact me.
    "If you try to fail, and succeed, which have you done?"
    Lars M. Hansen, Mar 1, 2004
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    Mark Allison Guest

    That's the one I went for.
    It is very good indeed. I used mine out in the garden today about 100ft
    away and had no issues. It is rock solid and easy to set up, and a
    bargain with 2 free microfilters and free wireless card. :)
    Mark Allison, Mar 1, 2004
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    Mike.P® Guest

    Well at the moment my son is watching a divx of Stargate on his
    computer upstairs which is on my pc downstairs..no drop out or
    stuttering at all.
    Have played Quake 3 and Halo on both machines with no trouble either.

    I never realized networking could be so much fun...even if i DO get
    killed every 5 mins :)
    Mike.P®, Mar 1, 2004
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    picknose Guest

    It may be old news, but that's not the point. The point is that they even
    considered doing such a stupid thing in the first place. Any company that
    would do such a thing is not worth bothering with. The only people that
    might actually like this "feature" are all those dumb AOL users out there
    who must positively enjoy spam or they wouldn't stay with AOL.

    I can imagine how the product meeting went at Belkin...

    Marketing Suit: "I know, we'll add a feature to the router that informs
    customers of new Belkin products."
    Techie: "What, spam them you mean?"
    Marketing Suit: "Yes."
    Techie: "You can't do that!!!"
    Marketing Suit: "Just do it."
    Techie: "Yes sir."
    picknose, Mar 1, 2004
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