Yellow Fat?

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  1. dwacon

    dwacon Guest

    I was watching that documentary on hamburgers that was on cable last night.
    This guy from Texas was saying that if cows eat only grass, their fat is
    yellow and yellow fat won't stick to your arteries. It is corn fed cows
    that produce white fat which will kill you.

    Is this guy full of it or is he onto something?

    I would like to eat more red meat to get natural creatine in my diet... and
    of course marbeled meat is tastier than the lean, lean stuff that you have
    to cook medium or less to avoid it tasting like shoe leather. So, izzit
    true... and, if so, where can I find beef with the yellow fat.

    And please, no replies dealing with urine or such.

    Thanks!



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  2. dwacon

    Jamco Guest

    red meat causes colin cancer.
    Perhaps you should buy a creatine suppliment if you want to get more,
    although creatine is also pretty bad for you.


    " dwacon" <> wrote in message
    news:3FAye.148981$sy6.12675@lakeread04...
    >I was watching that documentary on hamburgers that was on cable last night.
    >This guy from Texas was saying that if cows eat only grass, their fat is
    >yellow and yellow fat won't stick to your arteries. It is corn fed cows
    >that produce white fat which will kill you.
    >
    > Is this guy full of it or is he onto something?
    >
    > I would like to eat more red meat to get natural creatine in my diet...
    > and of course marbeled meat is tastier than the lean, lean stuff that you
    > have to cook medium or less to avoid it tasting like shoe leather. So,
    > izzit true... and, if so, where can I find beef with the yellow fat.
    >
    > And please, no replies dealing with urine or such.
    >
    > Thanks!
    >
    >
    >
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  3. dwacon

    Mike Easter Guest

    dwacon wrote:
    > I was watching that documentary on hamburgers that was on cable last
    > night. This guy from Texas was saying that if cows eat only grass,
    > their fat is yellow and yellow fat won't stick to your arteries. It
    > is corn fed cows that produce white fat which will kill you.
    >
    > Is this guy full of it or is he onto something?


    Grass or range fed beef has quite a number of healthier characteristics
    than stockpen or grainfed beef. Grassfed has more conjugated linoleic
    acid - a goodfat, more vits A&E, more omega-3 oils, and more
    beta-carotene -- all of those things are good for you and beta-carotene
    is what makes the fat yellower.

    Europeans pay more for yellowfat beef [no fair cheating by adding things
    to make the fat yellower] because they are trained to think that way.
    USAmericans are sorta trained to 'prefer' whitefatted meat.

    > I would like to eat more red meat to get natural creatine in my
    > diet... and of course marbeled meat is tastier than the lean, lean
    > stuff that you have to cook medium or less to avoid it tasting like
    > shoe leather. So, izzit true... and, if so, where can I find beef
    > with the yellow fat.


    Lean red meat has a lot of things which are good for you - separate from
    the issue of yellow vs white fat above. Yellow beef fat is mostly just
    beef fat - regardless of that little bit of good news about the vits,
    oils, & goodfat in the rangefed animals. Rangefed are generally leaner
    than stockpen grainfed.


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    Mike Easter, Jul 5, 2005
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  4. dwacon

    RAS Guest

    the guy was right. This is cow beef and it graded in the US as utility or
    canners. The most of this beef is used in sausage. There are several markets
    in the US that sell this stuff, but I don't know about UK

    " dwacon" <> wrote in message
    news:3FAye.148981$sy6.12675@lakeread04...
    >I was watching that documentary on hamburgers that was on cable last night.
    >This guy from Texas was saying that if cows eat only grass, their fat is
    >yellow and yellow fat won't stick to your arteries. It is corn fed cows
    >that produce white fat which will kill you.
    >
    > Is this guy full of it or is he onto something?
    >
    > I would like to eat more red meat to get natural creatine in my diet...
    > and of course marbeled meat is tastier than the lean, lean stuff that you
    > have to cook medium or less to avoid it tasting like shoe leather. So,
    > izzit true... and, if so, where can I find beef with the yellow fat.
    >
    > And please, no replies dealing with urine or such.
    >
    > Thanks!
    >
    >
    >
    > --
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    > http://www.dwacon.com
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    RAS, Jul 5, 2005
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  5. Jamco wrote:
    > red meat causes colin cancer.
    > Perhaps you should buy a creatine suppliment if you want to get more,
    > although creatine is also pretty bad for you.


    You're a complete fuctwit. I have an Uncle Colin, he likes a steak and he
    doesn't have cancer. Oh you meant /colon/ cancer. Actually, there is no
    proof to that rumour. If you have die-hard evidence, suggest you produce it.
    You *CANNOT* make statements like that without the hard evidence to back it
    up (and I'm telling you, you won't find any).
    Miss Perspicacia Tick, Jul 5, 2005
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  6. Jamco wrote:
    > red meat causes colin cancer.
    > Perhaps you should buy a creatine suppliment if you want to get more,
    > although creatine is also pretty bad for you.


    I should add that you should do the same for your statement regarding
    creatine because I can tell you you're wrong. How can anything that does
    this (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3145223.stm) possibly be bad for
    you? Where is the evidence. Prove your statements.
    Miss Perspicacia Tick, Jul 5, 2005
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  7. dwacon

    dwacon Guest

    "Mike Easter" <> wrote in message
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    > dwacon wrote:
    >> I was watching that documentary on hamburgers that was on cable last
    >> night. This guy from Texas was saying that if cows eat only grass,
    >> their fat is yellow and yellow fat won't stick to your arteries. It
    >> is corn fed cows that produce white fat which will kill you.
    >>
    >> Is this guy full of it or is he onto something?

    >
    > Grass or range fed beef has quite a number of healthier characteristics
    > than stockpen or grainfed beef. Grassfed has more conjugated linoleic
    > acid - a goodfat, more vits A&E, more omega-3 oils, and more
    > beta-carotene -- all of those things are good for you and beta-carotene
    > is what makes the fat yellower.
    >
    > Europeans pay more for yellowfat beef [no fair cheating by adding things
    > to make the fat yellower] because they are trained to think that way.
    > USAmericans are sorta trained to 'prefer' whitefatted meat.
    >
    >> I would like to eat more red meat to get natural creatine in my
    >> diet... and of course marbeled meat is tastier than the lean, lean
    >> stuff that you have to cook medium or less to avoid it tasting like
    >> shoe leather. So, izzit true... and, if so, where can I find beef
    >> with the yellow fat.

    >
    > Lean red meat has a lot of things which are good for you - separate from
    > the issue of yellow vs white fat above. Yellow beef fat is mostly just
    > beef fat - regardless of that little bit of good news about the vits,
    > oils, & goodfat in the rangefed animals. Rangefed are generally leaner
    > than stockpen grainfed.



    Thanks, Mike!


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  8. dwacon

    PC Guest

    " dwacon" <> wrote in message
    news:3FAye.148981$sy6.12675@lakeread04...
    >I was watching that documentary on hamburgers that was on cable last night.
    >This guy from Texas was saying that if cows eat only grass, their fat is
    >yellow and yellow fat won't stick to your arteries. It is corn fed cows
    >that produce white fat which will kill you.
    >
    > Is this guy full of it or is he onto something?
    >
    > I would like to eat more red meat to get natural creatine in my diet...
    > and of course marbeled meat is tastier than the lean, lean stuff that you
    > have to cook medium or less to avoid it tasting like shoe leather. So,
    > izzit true... and, if so, where can I find beef with the yellow fat.
    >
    > And please, no replies dealing with urine or such.
    >
    > Thanks!




    While I don't have any opinion either way on grass vs. corn feed beef, it is
    more likely the colour of the fat is more to do with the breed of the animal
    than what it eats.

    For example, what is know as the 'Jersey' breed has fat that can approach
    pale orange in colour.
    There is also a deepening of colour with age, though to what degree I have
    not seen documented.
    On the other hand the 'Charcoals breed can have fat that is almost pure
    white.
    Jerseys are good milkers and predominate in the Dairy industry, Charcoals
    are popular in the premium beef market.

    So you could have a Corn fed yearling Jersey Steer with fat that is quite
    yellow. Comparatively an old Holstein (Friesian) Cow fed on Grass may have
    fat that is a light creamy colour.

    Another poster talks about 'Burger meat'
    New Zealand sells a lot of 'Burger Meat' to the USA. A large portion of this
    is derived from Cows that have reached the end of their productive milking
    life. For milking reasons a large portion of the milking heard is Jerseys.
    As I have alluded to above Jerseys have a tendency toward yellow fat. To a
    milking farmer the colour of the fat is irrelevant as the carcass value of
    the animal is only a tiny portion of the money said cow can earn in it's
    lifetime.
    Consequently as meat derived from these animals is older and contains a lot
    more yellow fat from Jersey animals it is usually seen as best used for
    'Processed' meat products i.e. Mince, Burgers or Sausages.

    For completeness I should mention that a lot of 'Burger meat' is also
    derived from young Bull meat. Mainly derived from animals left over from the
    necessity of bringing cows into milk, the breeds involved are again milk
    focused.
    Processed at about 2-3 years of age, meat derived from these Bulls is very
    popular with Burger Meat makers because it contains natural 'binders'
    keeping the Burger Pattie together when it is cooked. These natural binders
    of course mean the producer doesn't have to add artificial binders to the
    Burger mix, artificial binders of course mean a $ cost.

    Another complicating factor is Disease and is one of the reasons yellow fat
    can meet some consumer resistance.
    The Disease concerned is 'Jaundice'.
    Frequently caused by the ingestion (eating) of grass with a high level of
    the Fungus Pithomyces Chartarum (Spelling?). This Fungus acts as a poison
    and the Liver attempts to detoxify it. In the process it literally destroys
    itself and it's ability to recycle the Bile content of the digestive
    process.
    The subsequent build up of Bile salts in the blood is characterised by
    sensitivity to light (animal seeks shade) and a 'Yellow' colour to the meat
    and fat.
    Jaundice is also symptomatic of other Diseases like Hepatitis.

    Having said all that (and probably scared you off meat for life) at the end
    of the day Humans are 'Omnivorous' i.e. they are able to eat a wide range of
    foods.
    To meet the 'ideal' dietary needs one should eat a "Balanced Diet".

    A 'Balanced Diet' means a bit of everything. Consuming a narrower range of
    edibles can over generations cause a shift in the absorption of food energy.
    For example (and I make it quite plain this is information I remember
    reading somewhere and have no reference to) I understand one of the reasons
    Doctors and Hospitals record 'Race' is that some medicines will not work on
    people with certain ethnic backgrounds.
    Another study I remember reading/watching (may have been a BBC Horizon
    documentary, which is an excellent well researched series) was on Mexican's
    tendency to overweight when eating modern 'Fast' foods. The article
    suggested the historically 'Corn' based menu that generations of Mexicans
    had consumed over the years had changed their digestive systems.
    This 'mono' cultural diet specialised their conversion of 'food energy' to
    match that available from Corn.
    When confronted with different 'foods' their digestive system just went into
    overdrive and gobbled it all up.

    You (and others) may see it differently.

    Cheers
    Paul.
    PC, Jul 6, 2005
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  9. dwacon

    Mnb Guest

    I can prove that your a cow cunted bitch. Fucking slob.
    http://www.pcreview.co.uk/forums/thread-532190.php

    "Miss Perspicacia Tick" <> wrote in message
    news:pfCye.3$...
    > Jamco wrote:
    >> red meat causes colin cancer.
    >> Perhaps you should buy a creatine suppliment if you want to get more,
    >> although creatine is also pretty bad for you.

    >
    > I should add that you should do the same for your statement regarding
    > creatine because I can tell you you're wrong. How can anything that does
    > this (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3145223.stm) possibly be bad for
    > you? Where is the evidence. Prove your statements.
    >
    >
    >
    Mnb, Jul 6, 2005
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  10. dwacon

    old jon Guest

    "Mnb" <> wrote in message
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    >I can prove that your a cow cunted bitch. Fucking slob.
    > http://www.pcreview.co.uk/forums/thread-532190.php
    >
    > "Miss Perspicacia Tick" <> wrote in message
    > news:pfCye.3$...
    >> Jamco wrote:
    >>> red meat causes colin cancer.
    >>> Perhaps you should buy a creatine suppliment if you want to get more,
    >>> although creatine is also pretty bad for you.

    >>
    >> I should add that you should do the same for your statement regarding
    >> creatine because I can tell you you're wrong. How can anything that does
    >> this (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3145223.stm) possibly be bad for
    >> you? Where is the evidence. Prove your statements.
    >>
    >>

    SO, you can remember long numbers, but you stink so bad, you lose all your
    friends.
    Think I`ll stick with my vitamin supplements. <g>.
    old jon, Jul 6, 2005
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    Miss Perspicacia Tick, <>, the head-in-the-clouds, slippery
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    > Gaping short-time girl with run-down tunnel of love and haggard shakers
    > hungers for bulging middle stump for deranged ****. Mail me at
    >
    Miss Perspicacia Tick, Jul 6, 2005
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