Yahoogroups LAME new spam filter

Discussion in 'NZ Computing' started by Craig Sutton, Feb 5, 2004.

  1. Craig Sutton

    Craig Sutton Guest

    Well Yahoogroups have added there own spam filter that filters peoples
    mailing lists they have setup.

    But no way of switching it off!

    Who are they to decide what's spam and whats not on private mailing lists.
    This is causing problem already on my mailing list. Normal conversation is
    being tagged "[SPAM]" in the subject which of course causes some isp filters
    to block the email.

    arggggggggggggggggh

    anyone else having problems?
     
    Craig Sutton, Feb 5, 2004
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  2. Craig Sutton

    CollectorNZ Guest

    Craig Sutton wrote:
    > Well Yahoogroups have added there own spam filter that filters peoples
    > mailing lists they have setup.
    >
    > But no way of switching it off!
    >
    > Who are they to decide what's spam and whats not on private mailing lists.
    > This is causing problem already on my mailing list. Normal conversation is
    > being tagged "[SPAM]" in the subject which of course causes some isp filters
    > to block the email.
    >
    > arggggggggggggggggh
    >
    > anyone else having problems?
    >
    >

    Yep just noticed that it is occuring on the Ironman NZ List as well
     
    CollectorNZ, Feb 5, 2004
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  3. Craig Sutton wrote:
    > Well Yahoogroups have added there own spam filter that filters peoples
    > mailing lists they have setup.
    > But no way of switching it off!
    > Who are they to decide what's spam and whats not on private mailing lists.
    > This is causing problem already on my mailing list. Normal conversation is
    > being tagged "[SPAM]" in the subject which of course causes some isp filters
    > to block the email.


    Who are they? the ones who run the lists thats who... it's their
    network, they can allow or disallow what ever traffic they like.

    Do I agree with spam filters that cant be turned off? hell no, but hey,
    what choice do you have... why not run your own "groups"

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    T.N.O. - Dave.net.nz, Feb 5, 2004
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  4. Craig Sutton

    Craig Sutton Guest

    "T.N.O. - Dave.net.nz" <> wrote in
    message news:HHwUb.35192$...
    > Craig Sutton wrote:
    > > Well Yahoogroups have added there own spam filter that filters peoples
    > > mailing lists they have setup.
    > > But no way of switching it off!
    > > Who are they to decide what's spam and whats not on private mailing

    lists.
    > > This is causing problem already on my mailing list. Normal conversation

    is
    > > being tagged "[SPAM]" in the subject which of course causes some isp

    filters
    > > to block the email.

    >
    > Who are they? the ones who run the lists thats who... it's their
    > network, they can allow or disallow what ever traffic they like.
    >
    > Do I agree with spam filters that cant be turned off? hell no, but hey,
    > what choice do you have... why not run your own "groups"


    After many hours digging there is a setting to turn it off buried deep where
    nobody would look.

    So its fixed hopefully. But i think its going to cause problems on many
    mailing lists.
     
    Craig Sutton, Feb 6, 2004
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  5. Craig Sutton wrote:
    >>>Well Yahoogroups have added there own spam filter that filters peoples
    >>>mailing lists they have setup.
    >>>But no way of switching it off!
    >>>Who are they to decide what's spam and whats not on private mailing


    > After many hours digging there is a setting to turn it off buried deep where
    > nobody would look.
    > So its fixed hopefully. But i think its going to cause problems on many
    > mailing lists.


    Make a website that mentions how/where to find it... that way others
    will be able to find it too.

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    T.N.O. - Dave.net.nz, Feb 6, 2004
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  6. On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 16:39:49 +1300, T.N.O. - Dave.net.nz wrote:

    > Craig Sutton wrote:
    >>>>Well Yahoogroups have added there own spam filter that filters peoples
    >>>>mailing lists they have setup.
    >>>>But no way of switching it off!
    >>>>Who are they to decide what's spam and whats not on private mailing

    >
    >> After many hours digging there is a setting to turn it off buried deep where
    >> nobody would look.
    >> So its fixed hopefully. But i think its going to cause problems on many
    >> mailing lists.

    >
    > Make a website that mentions how/where to find it... that way others
    > will be able to find it too.


    Hidden away in the Management section, you can access the SpamGuard setting
    through Group Settings/Messages, and by editing the Posting and Archives
    option, you can disable SpamGuard (recommended for most groups, as spam is
    usually quite rare in groups I am familiar with, so it only tends to mark
    false positives).

    It would have helped if they had made some announcement regarding the new
    "service", so that listowners could have had some information regarding
    their options. My ISP promoted the launch of its BrightMail service, and
    in contrast to Yahoo's system, it doesn't seem to have any real
    difficulties in correctly identifying what is spam.

    Yahoo's on-line imformation is particularly vague, and I have been unable
    to locate specifics with regard to settings and implementation with regard
    to eGroups in their FAQ's. Overall, poorly implemented.
     
    Joseph Christianson, Feb 6, 2004
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  7. Craig Sutton

    CollectorNZ Guest

    Craig Sutton wrote:

    > "T.N.O. - Dave.net.nz" <> wrote in
    > message news:HHwUb.35192$...
    >
    >>Craig Sutton wrote:
    >>
    >>>Well Yahoogroups have added there own spam filter that filters peoples
    >>>mailing lists they have setup.
    >>>But no way of switching it off!
    >>>Who are they to decide what's spam and whats not on private mailing

    >
    > lists.
    >
    >>>This is causing problem already on my mailing list. Normal conversation

    >
    > is
    >
    >>>being tagged "[SPAM]" in the subject which of course causes some isp

    >
    > filters
    >
    >>>to block the email.

    >>
    >>Who are they? the ones who run the lists thats who... it's their
    >>network, they can allow or disallow what ever traffic they like.
    >>
    >>Do I agree with spam filters that cant be turned off? hell no, but hey,
    >>what choice do you have... why not run your own "groups"

    >
    >
    > After many hours digging there is a setting to turn it off buried deep where
    > nobody would look.
    >
    > So its fixed hopefully. But i think its going to cause problems on many
    > mailing lists.
    >
    >

    where
     
    CollectorNZ, Feb 6, 2004
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  8. Craig Sutton

    Mainlander Guest

    In article <90EUb.35573$>,
    says...
    > Craig Sutton wrote:
    > >>>Well Yahoogroups have added there own spam filter that filters peoples
    > >>>mailing lists they have setup.
    > >>>But no way of switching it off!
    > >>>Who are they to decide what's spam and whats not on private mailing

    >
    > > After many hours digging there is a setting to turn it off buried deep where
    > > nobody would look.
    > > So its fixed hopefully. But i think its going to cause problems on many
    > > mailing lists.

    >
    > Make a website that mentions how/where to find it... that way others
    > will be able to find it too.


    Basically it's a daft and very lame system
    The biggest threat of spam comes from people who can receive email
    messages that contain the full address of the poster who sent them. All
    they need is a mail client that harvests the addresses from the incoming
    messages. But of course that's for spam outside Yahoo

    The website of Yahoo obfuscates email addresses to protect against spam,
    but has never done the same in respect of emails.


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    Mainlander, Feb 8, 2004
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  9. Craig Sutton

    Craig Sutton Guest

    "Mainlander" <*@*.*> wrote in message
    news:...
    > In article <90EUb.35573$>,
    > says...
    > > Craig Sutton wrote:
    > > >>>Well Yahoogroups have added there own spam filter that filters

    peoples
    > > >>>mailing lists they have setup.
    > > >>>But no way of switching it off!
    > > >>>Who are they to decide what's spam and whats not on private mailing

    > >
    > > > After many hours digging there is a setting to turn it off buried deep

    where
    > > > nobody would look.
    > > > So its fixed hopefully. But i think its going to cause problems on

    many
    > > > mailing lists.

    > >
    > > Make a website that mentions how/where to find it... that way others
    > > will be able to find it too.

    >
    > Basically it's a daft and very lame system
    > The biggest threat of spam comes from people who can receive email
    > messages that contain the full address of the poster who sent them. All
    > they need is a mail client that harvests the addresses from the incoming
    > messages. But of course that's for spam outside Yahoo
    >
    > The website of Yahoo obfuscates email addresses to protect against spam,
    > but has never done the same in respect of emails.
    >

    Funny enough someone just reported Yahoogroups new spam filter has hit the
    bit bucket already. I think they realized how stupid it was!
     
    Craig Sutton, Feb 8, 2004
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  10. Craig Sutton

    Mainlander Guest

    In article <c05abu$fv9$>, says...
    >
    > "Mainlander" <*@*.*> wrote in message
    > news:...
    > > In article <90EUb.35573$>,
    > > says...
    > > > Craig Sutton wrote:
    > > > >>>Well Yahoogroups have added there own spam filter that filters

    > peoples
    > > > >>>mailing lists they have setup.
    > > > >>>But no way of switching it off!
    > > > >>>Who are they to decide what's spam and whats not on private mailing
    > > >
    > > > > After many hours digging there is a setting to turn it off buried deep

    > where
    > > > > nobody would look.
    > > > > So its fixed hopefully. But i think its going to cause problems on

    > many
    > > > > mailing lists.
    > > >
    > > > Make a website that mentions how/where to find it... that way others
    > > > will be able to find it too.

    > >
    > > Basically it's a daft and very lame system
    > > The biggest threat of spam comes from people who can receive email
    > > messages that contain the full address of the poster who sent them. All
    > > they need is a mail client that harvests the addresses from the incoming
    > > messages. But of course that's for spam outside Yahoo
    > >
    > > The website of Yahoo obfuscates email addresses to protect against spam,
    > > but has never done the same in respect of emails.
    > >

    > Funny enough someone just reported Yahoogroups new spam filter has hit the
    > bit bucket already. I think they realized how stupid it was!


    Everyone I know who has it has turned it off.

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    Mainlander, Feb 9, 2004
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