yahoo-xtra mail problem

Discussion in 'NZ Computing' started by pystol, Dec 16, 2011.

  1. pystol

    pystol Guest

    Are they having a meltdown? Can access yahoo webmail but trying to
    download messages to my email client is a pain in the arse. 99 out of
    100 attempts fail.
     
    pystol, Dec 16, 2011
    #1
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  2. On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 22:57:37 -0800 (PST), pystol
    <> wrote:

    >Are they having a meltdown? Can access yahoo webmail but trying to
    >download messages to my email client is a pain in the arse. 99 out of
    >100 attempts fail.




    Get a Real ISP.
     
    Frank Williams, Dec 16, 2011
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  3. pystol

    Donchano Guest

    On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 20:57:43 +1300, Frank Williams
    <> shouted from the highest rooftop:

    ><> wrote:
    >
    >>Are they having a meltdown? Can access yahoo webmail but trying to
    >>download messages to my email client is a pain in the arse. 99 out of
    >>100 attempts fail.

    >
    >
    >
    >Get a Real ISP.


    I know Woger has long standing issues with Xtra, so take that into
    consideration first.

    OTOH, Xtra-Yahoo is crap. Full stop.

    So what I did is subscribe to a really excellent email service. It's
    called Fastmail.net and I've had no problems with it at all. Great
    service. Great backup and great support -which I've only had to use
    once or twice over the past couple of years - and not expensive in
    terms of the hassle it saves and the reliability it delivers.

    http://www.fastnet.net

    I recommend it highly and combined with Xtra (as my ISP) I have had
    very few problems.
     
    Donchano, Dec 16, 2011
    #3
  4. pystol

    Ralph Fox Guest

    On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 22:57:37 -0800 (PST), in message <>
    pystol wrote:

    > Are they having a meltdown? Can access yahoo webmail but trying to
    > download messages to my email client is a pain in the arse. 99 out of
    > 100 attempts fail.



    No problem here at the moment. Are you using POP or IMAP?

    IMAP access to Yahoo!Xtra mail can be slow at times when the Internet
    is busy. Just try again at a different time of the day.


    --
    Kind regards
    Ralph
     
    Ralph Fox, Dec 16, 2011
    #4
  5. On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 21:06:55 +1300, Donchano
    <> wrote:

    >
    >On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 20:57:43 +1300, Frank Williams
    ><> shouted from the highest rooftop:
    >
    >><> wrote:
    >>
    >>>Are they having a meltdown? Can access yahoo webmail but trying to
    >>>download messages to my email client is a pain in the arse. 99 out of
    >>>100 attempts fail.

    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>Get a Real ISP.

    >
    >I know Woger has long standing issues with Xtra, so take that into
    >consideration first.




    Not al all, so dont make thinks up, its also rated as the worse ISP,
    and there actions proves that..

    >OTOH, Xtra-Yahoo is crap. Full stop.
    >
    >So what I did is subscribe to a really excellent email service. It's
    >called Fastmail.net and I've had no problems with it at all. Great
    >service. Great backup and great support -which I've only had to use
    >once or twice over the past couple of years - and not expensive in
    >terms of the hassle it saves and the reliability it delivers.
    >
    >http://www.fastnet.net
    >
    >I recommend it highly and combined with Xtra (as my ISP) I have had
    >very few problems.
    >
     
    Frank Williams, Dec 16, 2011
    #5
  6. pystol

    malone Guest

    I've had a lot of trouble with xtra recently - about 50% of my attempts
    to connect to pop3.xtra.co.nz failed (timed out).

    But this morning I changed the port number to 995 and put the connection
    security to SSL/TLS and it's been ok ever since....

    It takes 3 or 4 sec to get through which is a lot slower than other pop
    servers I use, but at least it doesn't fail

    Using Thunderbird 8.
     
    malone, Dec 16, 2011
    #6
  7. pystol

    Richard Guest

    On 12/17/2011 12:39 PM, Frank Williams wrote:
    > On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 21:06:55 +1300, Donchano
    > <> wrote:


    >> I know Woger has long standing issues with Xtra, so take that into
    >> consideration first.

    >
    >
    >
    > Not al all, so dont make thinks up, its also rated as the worse ISP,
    > and there actions proves that..


    Their ISP services are among the best IME. Their email, well thats just
    crap but who uses ISP email these days when google apps are free and a
    domain name is $10 a year?
     
    Richard, Dec 17, 2011
    #7
  8. On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 15:03:28 +1300, Richard <> wrote:

    >On 12/17/2011 12:39 PM, Frank Williams wrote:
    >> On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 21:06:55 +1300, Donchano
    >> <> wrote:

    >
    >>> I know Woger has long standing issues with Xtra, so take that into
    >>> consideration first.

    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> Not al all, so dont make thinks up, its also rated as the worse ISP,
    >> and there actions proves that..

    >
    >Their ISP services are among the best IME. Their email, well thats just
    >crap but who uses ISP email these days when google apps are free and a
    >domain name is $10 a year?


    Yes but they are not private that is how Google makes its money.
    Google = Spyware.



    Have a look at the reviews Clear.net beats them all


    And I use the ISP mail like a large number of my friends, I get very
    turned off when I see Web mail contacts.
     
    Frank Williams, Dec 17, 2011
    #8
  9. pystol

    Richard Guest

    On 12/17/2011 6:15 PM, Frank Williams wrote:
    > On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 15:03:28 +1300, Richard<> wrote:
    >
    >> On 12/17/2011 12:39 PM, Frank Williams wrote:
    >>> On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 21:06:55 +1300, Donchano
    >>> <> wrote:

    >>
    >>>> I know Woger has long standing issues with Xtra, so take that into
    >>>> consideration first.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Not al all, so dont make thinks up, its also rated as the worse ISP,
    >>> and there actions proves that..

    >>
    >> Their ISP services are among the best IME. Their email, well thats just
    >> crap but who uses ISP email these days when google apps are free and a
    >> domain name is $10 a year?

    >
    > Yes but they are not private that is how Google makes its money.
    > Google = Spyware.


    They only use them to target ad's, which most webmail does anyway. email
    isnt private anyway unless you use smime or something else, its sent in
    cleartext between mailservers despite your best intentions of using
    secure imap or https to read it.

    > Have a look at the reviews Clear.net beats them all


    Many complaints from people with self install DSL that are too cheap to
    get it done properly using a dodgey junk free modem doesnt bother me.
    All the people I know with xtra DSL that have a proper install are very
    happy with it, it speedtests well above other ISPs at peak times and
    they have no issues playing youtube most of the time.

    > And I use the ISP mail like a large number of my friends, I get very
    > turned off when I see Web mail contacts.


    Good to know that I wont be turning you on with my email address ;)

    I get worried when I see places that use ISP addresses for business use.
    Basically it shows they are really cheap and clueless. People using it
     
    Richard, Dec 17, 2011
    #9
  10. On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 19:07:42 +1300, Richard <> wrote:

    >On 12/17/2011 6:15 PM, Frank Williams wrote:
    >> On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 15:03:28 +1300, Richard<> wrote:
    >>
    >>> On 12/17/2011 12:39 PM, Frank Williams wrote:
    >>>> On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 21:06:55 +1300, Donchano
    >>>> <> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>> I know Woger has long standing issues with Xtra, so take that into
    >>>>> consideration first.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Not al all, so dont make thinks up, its also rated as the worse ISP,
    >>>> and there actions proves that..
    >>>
    >>> Their ISP services are among the best IME. Their email, well thats just
    >>> crap but who uses ISP email these days when google apps are free and a
    >>> domain name is $10 a year?

    >>
    >> Yes but they are not private that is how Google makes its money.
    >> Google = Spyware.

    >
    >They only use them to target ad's, which most webmail does anyway. email
    >isnt private anyway unless you use smime or something else, its sent in
    >cleartext between mailservers despite your best intentions of using
    >secure imap or https to read it.
    >
    >> Have a look at the reviews Clear.net beats them all

    >
    >Many complaints from people with self install DSL that are too cheap to
    >get it done properly using a dodgey junk free modem doesnt bother me.
    >All the people I know with xtra DSL that have a proper install are very
    >happy with it, it speedtests well above other ISPs at peak times and
    >they have no issues playing youtube most of the time.



    Telstra Clear net beats them all Cable that is and with a 2Mbs upload
    speed

    >> And I use the ISP mail like a large number of my friends, I get very
    >> turned off when I see Web mail contacts.

    >
    >Good to know that I wont be turning you on with my email address ;)
    >
    >I get worried when I see places that use ISP addresses for business use.
    >Basically it shows they are really cheap and clueless. People using it



    Not Clueless but Brains, most Bisenes that I have come acroos all over
    the World DO NOT USE WEB MAIL..

    Me thinks you have not used the Intenet long..
     
    Frank Williams, Dec 18, 2011
    #10
  11. On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 23:08:34 +1300, EMB <> wrote:

    >On 17/12/2011 6:15 p.m., Frank Williams wrote:
    >
    >> And I use the ISP mail like a large number of my friends, I get very
    >> turned off when I see Web mail contacts.

    >
    >Stick to your rent-a-bride then Woger. So long as you keep paying her
    >she'll keep turning you on.




    I have no rent-a-bride at all, fully imported herself to NZ many years
    ago.
     
    Frank Williams, Dec 18, 2011
    #11
  12. pystol

    Scooter Guest

    On , , Sun, 18 Dec 2011 19:17:43 +1300, Re: yahoo-xtra mail problem, Frank
    Williams <> wrote:

    >On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 19:07:42 +1300, Richard <> wrote:
    >
    >>On 12/17/2011 6:15 PM, Frank Williams wrote:
    >>> On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 15:03:28 +1300, Richard<> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> On 12/17/2011 12:39 PM, Frank Williams wrote:
    >>>>> On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 21:06:55 +1300, Donchano
    >>>>> <> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>>> I know Woger has long standing issues with Xtra, so take that into
    >>>>>> consideration first.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Not al all, so dont make thinks up, its also rated as the worse ISP,
    >>>>> and there actions proves that..
    >>>>
    >>>> Their ISP services are among the best IME. Their email, well thats just
    >>>> crap but who uses ISP email these days when google apps are free and a
    >>>> domain name is $10 a year?
    >>>
    >>> Yes but they are not private that is how Google makes its money.
    >>> Google = Spyware.

    >>
    >>They only use them to target ad's, which most webmail does anyway. email
    >>isnt private anyway unless you use smime or something else, its sent in
    >>cleartext between mailservers despite your best intentions of using
    >>secure imap or https to read it.
    >>
    >>> Have a look at the reviews Clear.net beats them all

    >>
    >>Many complaints from people with self install DSL that are too cheap to
    >>get it done properly using a dodgey junk free modem doesnt bother me.
    >>All the people I know with xtra DSL that have a proper install are very
    >>happy with it, it speedtests well above other ISPs at peak times and
    >>they have no issues playing youtube most of the time.

    >
    >
    >Telstra Clear net beats them all Cable that is and with a 2Mbs upload
    >speed
    >
    >>> And I use the ISP mail like a large number of my friends, I get very
    >>> turned off when I see Web mail contacts.

    >>
    >>Good to know that I wont be turning you on with my email address ;)
    >>
    >>I get worried when I see places that use ISP addresses for business use.
    >>Basically it shows they are really cheap and clueless. People using it

    >
    >
    >Not Clueless but Brains, most Bisenes that I have come acroos all over
    >the World DO NOT USE WEB MAIL..


    Bisenes Roger?
    I thought they became extinct at the end of the Plasticene age.
    >
    >Me thinks you have not used the Intenet long..


    I think that you think that people don't know you are Roger Sheppard, clown of
    237 known aliases.
     
    Scooter, Dec 18, 2011
    #12
  13. pystol

    Ralph Fox Guest

    On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 19:17:43 +1300, in message <>
    Frank Williams wrote:

    > >I get worried when I see places that use ISP addresses for business use.
    > >Basically it shows they are really cheap and clueless. People using it

    >
    >
    > Not Clueless but Brains, most Bisenes that I have come acroos all over
    > the World DO NOT USE WEB MAIL..


    Hello, Roger Sheppard


    Having an ISP address is not the same as using web mail.

    Having an ISP address is having a email address like
    where the part to the right of the @ belongs to an ISP and not to the business.

    An email depresses for business use should be like
    where the part to the right of the @ belongs to the business.


    --
    Kind regards
    Ralph
     
    Ralph Fox, Dec 18, 2011
    #13
  14. pystol

    Enkidu Guest

    On 17/12/11 18:15, Frank Williams wrote:
    >
    > Have a look at the reviews Clear.net beats them all
    >

    Paid for by TelstraClear no doubt.

    Cheers,

    Cliff
     
    Enkidu, Dec 19, 2011
    #14
  15. pystol

    Donchano Guest

    On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 19:17:43 +1300, Frank Williams
    <> shouted from the highest rooftop:

    >
    >Telstra Clear net beats them all Cable that is and with a 2Mbs upload
    >speed


    Not here. Not with me. Not in my experience with both Clear and Xtra.
    I still have a substantial credit with ClearNet. I will probably never
    use it, but it gives me a certain amount of pleasure to see them
    having to mail a credit statement to me every month. It sort of makes
    up for the miserable service they provide.

    Even though I had many problems with Xtra in the past, I MUCH prefer
    their service and features and have so for several years.

    BTW - Roger, my download speed is much faster than 2mbs with Xtra.
    Much.
     
    Donchano, Dec 19, 2011
    #15
  16. pystol

    Dave Doe Guest

    In article <>,
    d, Donchano says...
    >
    > On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 19:17:43 +1300, Frank Williams
    > <> shouted from the highest rooftop:
    >
    > >
    > >Telstra Clear net beats them all Cable that is and with a 2Mbs upload
    > >speed

    >
    > Not here. Not with me. Not in my experience with both Clear and Xtra.
    > I still have a substantial credit with ClearNet. I will probably never
    > use it, but it gives me a certain amount of pleasure to see them
    > having to mail a credit statement to me every month. It sort of makes
    > up for the miserable service they provide.
    >
    > Even though I had many problems with Xtra in the past, I MUCH prefer
    > their service and features and have so for several years.
    >
    > BTW - Roger, my download speed is much faster than 2mbs with Xtra.
    > Much.


    *upload* :)

    However, I sorta agree. I've been on cable for a few years now (about 8
    years?), and my Mum's Xtra connection thrashes it for download speed
    *regularly* - infact every time I visit I find it's bloody damn fast.
    Sometimes near twice the speed (2 MBs vs 1 (that's mega bytes, not
    bits)). Sure, at times I can get 1.4. Very dissapointing I think. My
    Mum's neighbour, ironically, can not get ADSL at all! - and is stuck on
    Woosh wireless. She had the phone with them as well (cheaper all up),
    but it was too unreliable and went back to a Telecom phoneline and Woosh
    wireless broadband.

    What's a good NZ speed test site? - and I'll post my results.

    IIRC, my last upload speed test was around 600KB/s - also very
    dissapointing given the rated 2mbs.

    On the plus side, TC dropped the pricing recently - on the minus, it
    probably brings it more in line with the general competition (it's been
    too expensive for too long). Also on the plus side is the static IP and
    reverse pointers - all good to go for a mail server (as well as web
    servers, FTP etc etc). And allowed :)

    --
    Duncan.
     
    Dave Doe, Dec 19, 2011
    #16
  17. pystol

    Enkidu Guest

    On 20/12/11 00:30, Dave Doe wrote:
    >
    > What's a good NZ speed test site? - and I'll post my results.
    >

    They are indicative only. The speed depends on the narrowest bandwidth
    and highest latency device between you and the test server.

    Cheers,

    Cliff
     
    Enkidu, Dec 19, 2011
    #17
  18. pystol

    victor Guest

    On 20/12/2011 12:30 a.m., Dave Doe wrote:
    > In article<>,
    > d, Donchano says...
    >>
    >> On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 19:17:43 +1300, Frank Williams
    >> <> shouted from the highest rooftop:
    >>
    >>>
    >>> Telstra Clear net beats them all Cable that is and with a 2Mbs upload
    >>> speed

    >>
    >> Not here. Not with me. Not in my experience with both Clear and Xtra.
    >> I still have a substantial credit with ClearNet. I will probably never
    >> use it, but it gives me a certain amount of pleasure to see them
    >> having to mail a credit statement to me every month. It sort of makes
    >> up for the miserable service they provide.
    >>
    >> Even though I had many problems with Xtra in the past, I MUCH prefer
    >> their service and features and have so for several years.
    >>
    >> BTW - Roger, my download speed is much faster than 2mbs with Xtra.
    >> Much.

    >
    > *upload* :)
    >
    > However, I sorta agree. I've been on cable for a few years now (about 8
    > years?), and my Mum's Xtra connection thrashes it for download speed
    > *regularly* - infact every time I visit I find it's bloody damn fast.
    > Sometimes near twice the speed (2 MBs vs 1 (that's mega bytes, not
    > bits)). Sure, at times I can get 1.4. Very dissapointing I think. My
    > Mum's neighbour, ironically, can not get ADSL at all! - and is stuck on
    > Woosh wireless. She had the phone with them as well (cheaper all up),
    > but it was too unreliable and went back to a Telecom phoneline and Woosh
    > wireless broadband.
    >
    > What's a good NZ speed test site? - and I'll post my results.
    >
    > IIRC, my last upload speed test was around 600KB/s - also very
    > dissapointing given the rated 2mbs.
    >
    > On the plus side, TC dropped the pricing recently - on the minus, it
    > probably brings it more in line with the general competition (it's been
    > too expensive for too long). Also on the plus side is the static IP and
    > reverse pointers - all good to go for a mail server (as well as web
    > servers, FTP etc etc). And allowed :)
    >


    I'm using naked TC cable at the moment and 2talk for phone, which is
    $65.95 per month plus $7 for the voip number.
    For the same from Telecom I would be paying $115 per month not including
    the voip which has more features than their phone package.
    I would get higher speed on Telecom DSL, their map shows VDSL cabinets
    in our street. But the money.
    This is for the Lightspeed which is supposed to be 15Mbps/2Mbps, so yeah
    I get nothing like their advertised rate :(
    Download Speed: 7610 kbps (951.3 KB/sec transfer rate)
    Upload Speed: 1716 kbps (214.5 KB/sec transfer rate)
    Latency: 9 ms
     
    victor, Dec 19, 2011
    #18
  19. pystol

    Dave Doe Guest

    In article <jcoe48$ece$>, , victor
    says...
    >
    > On 20/12/2011 12:30 a.m., Dave Doe wrote:
    > > In article<>,
    > > d, Donchano says...
    > >>
    > >> On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 19:17:43 +1300, Frank Williams
    > >> <> shouted from the highest rooftop:
    > >>
    > >>>
    > >>> Telstra Clear net beats them all Cable that is and with a 2Mbs upload
    > >>> speed
    > >>
    > >> Not here. Not with me. Not in my experience with both Clear and Xtra.
    > >> I still have a substantial credit with ClearNet. I will probably never
    > >> use it, but it gives me a certain amount of pleasure to see them
    > >> having to mail a credit statement to me every month. It sort of makes
    > >> up for the miserable service they provide.
    > >>
    > >> Even though I had many problems with Xtra in the past, I MUCH prefer
    > >> their service and features and have so for several years.
    > >>
    > >> BTW - Roger, my download speed is much faster than 2mbs with Xtra.
    > >> Much.

    > >
    > > *upload* :)
    > >
    > > However, I sorta agree. I've been on cable for a few years now (about 8
    > > years?), and my Mum's Xtra connection thrashes it for download speed
    > > *regularly* - infact every time I visit I find it's bloody damn fast.
    > > Sometimes near twice the speed (2 MBs vs 1 (that's mega bytes, not
    > > bits)). Sure, at times I can get 1.4. Very dissapointing I think. My
    > > Mum's neighbour, ironically, can not get ADSL at all! - and is stuck on
    > > Woosh wireless. She had the phone with them as well (cheaper all up),
    > > but it was too unreliable and went back to a Telecom phoneline and Woosh
    > > wireless broadband.
    > >
    > > What's a good NZ speed test site? - and I'll post my results.
    > >
    > > IIRC, my last upload speed test was around 600KB/s - also very
    > > dissapointing given the rated 2mbs.
    > >
    > > On the plus side, TC dropped the pricing recently - on the minus, it
    > > probably brings it more in line with the general competition (it's been
    > > too expensive for too long). Also on the plus side is the static IP and
    > > reverse pointers - all good to go for a mail server (as well as web
    > > servers, FTP etc etc). And allowed :)
    > >

    >
    > I'm using naked TC cable at the moment and 2talk for phone, which is
    > $65.95 per month plus $7 for the voip number.
    > For the same from Telecom I would be paying $115 per month not including
    > the voip which has more features than their phone package.
    > I would get higher speed on Telecom DSL, their map shows VDSL cabinets
    > in our street. But the money.
    > This is for the Lightspeed which is supposed to be 15Mbps/2Mbps, so yeah
    > I get nothing like their advertised rate :(
    > Download Speed: 7610 kbps (951.3 KB/sec transfer rate)
    > Upload Speed: 1716 kbps (214.5 KB/sec transfer rate)
    > Latency: 9 ms


    That sounds about typical speeds for me too.

    --
    Duncan.
     
    Dave Doe, Dec 19, 2011
    #19
  20. On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 00:30:55 +1300, Dave Doe <> wrote:

    >In article <>,
    >, Donchano says...
    >>
    >> On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 19:17:43 +1300, Frank Williams
    >> <> shouted from the highest rooftop:
    >>
    >> >
    >> >Telstra Clear net beats them all Cable that is and with a 2Mbs upload
    >> >speed

    >>
    >> Not here. Not with me. Not in my experience with both Clear and Xtra.
    >> I still have a substantial credit with ClearNet. I will probably never
    >> use it, but it gives me a certain amount of pleasure to see them
    >> having to mail a credit statement to me every month. It sort of makes
    >> up for the miserable service they provide.
    >>
    >> Even though I had many problems with Xtra in the past, I MUCH prefer
    >> their service and features and have so for several years.
    >>
    >> BTW - Roger, my download speed is much faster than 2mbs with Xtra.
    >> Much.

    >
    >*upload* :)
    >
    >However, I sorta agree. I've been on cable for a few years now (about 8
    >years?), and my Mum's Xtra connection thrashes it for download speed
    >*regularly* - infact every time I visit I find it's bloody damn fast.
    >Sometimes near twice the speed (2 MBs vs 1 (that's mega bytes, not
    >bits)). Sure, at times I can get 1.4. Very dissapointing I think. My
    >Mum's neighbour, ironically, can not get ADSL at all! - and is stuck on
    >Woosh wireless. She had the phone with them as well (cheaper all up),
    >but it was too unreliable and went back to a Telecom phoneline and Woosh
    >wireless broadband.
    >
    >What's a good NZ speed test site? - and I'll post my results.
    >
    >IIRC, my last upload speed test was around 600KB/s - also very
    >dissapointing given the rated 2mbs.
    >
    >On the plus side, TC dropped the pricing recently - on the minus, it
    >probably brings it more in line with the general competition (it's been
    >too expensive for too long). Also on the plus side is the static IP and
    >reverse pointers - all good to go for a mail server (as well as web
    >servers, FTP etc etc). And allowed :)



    I have just changed my Router so don't know if its optimized yet, but
    this site http://myspeed.visualware.com/ gives me 2.08 Mbps Upload and
    25.6 Mbps Dnload to a server in Sydney.

    My Plane shows a 15Mbps dnload, I can plug in my old router and see what
    I get.

    I do have a local program that I cant seem to find at the moments

    A resent NZ test on ISPs gave TelstraClear.net cable as the fastest
    with Xtra a close second.
     
    Frank Williams, Dec 19, 2011
    #20
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