XP64 -> XP Pro Network issue

Discussion in 'Windows 64bit' started by John Wintle, Jun 21, 2005.

  1. John Wintle

    John Wintle Guest

    Hi all,

    I have 2 XP computers that I want to network together, one running XP SP2
    (called white with IP of 192.168.0.1) and the other XP64 (called blackwith
    IP of 192.168.0.2)

    File & print sharing is enabled on both machines

    On machine White, I can ping Black using both the IP address and the name
    Using the command "net view black" the shares available are not shown and
    responds with "System error 53 has occurred" ; "The network path was not
    found"
    View Workgroup computers shows White and Black, but the Properties of Black
    are not available when selected

    On machine Black, I can ping White using both the IP address and the name
    Using the command "net view white" the shares available are shown
    View Workgroup computers shows Black only

    XP firewall has been disabled on both machines for testing purposes
    Machine White also has the Norton Firewall install, but this has also been
    disabled for test purposes
    Machine White is also used for DSL Internet (but with the Firewall enabled
    at that time)

    Enable NetBios over TCP/IP has been checked
    LMHosts has been set up

    Browser services are running
    TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper service is running

    Workgroup is set to HOME on both machines

    Surely this should be a simple thing to do!
    Can anyone help me out, I am going mad here!

    TIA,

    John.

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    John Wintle, Jun 21, 2005
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  2. run the network setup wizard again on both machines then restart.
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    "John Wintle" <> wrote in message
    news:OoN$...
    > Hi all,
    >
    > I have 2 XP computers that I want to network together, one running XP SP2
    > (called white with IP of 192.168.0.1) and the other XP64 (called blackwith
    > IP of 192.168.0.2)
    >
    > File & print sharing is enabled on both machines
    >
    > On machine White, I can ping Black using both the IP address and the name
    > Using the command "net view black" the shares available are not shown and
    > responds with "System error 53 has occurred" ; "The network path was not
    > found"
    > View Workgroup computers shows White and Black, but the Properties of
    > Black
    > are not available when selected
    >
    > On machine Black, I can ping White using both the IP address and the name
    > Using the command "net view white" the shares available are shown
    > View Workgroup computers shows Black only
    >
    > XP firewall has been disabled on both machines for testing purposes
    > Machine White also has the Norton Firewall install, but this has also been
    > disabled for test purposes
    > Machine White is also used for DSL Internet (but with the Firewall enabled
    > at that time)
    >
    > Enable NetBios over TCP/IP has been checked
    > LMHosts has been set up
    >
    > Browser services are running
    > TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper service is running
    >
    > Workgroup is set to HOME on both machines
    >
    > Surely this should be a simple thing to do!
    > Can anyone help me out, I am going mad here!
    >
    > TIA,
    >
    > John.
    >
    > --
    >
    >
    >
     
    Andre Da Costa [Extended64], Jun 21, 2005
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  3. John Wintle

    DKI Guest

    Have you tried to see if both can see each other first without the DSL
    connected first and all firewalls off. I once did what you did and always
    found the firewall i tried to set to control the modem side had affected
    communications with the lan side of things as well and sometimes both PCs
    would not see each other.

    I first set rules and also had to lower my firewall a notch for the default
    setting then decided to get a realy cheap router which was wireless and
    cheaper that most that was being sold and then all my problems were solved.
    but i got a hunch the firewall your using on the DSL connection is the
    problem.

    "John Wintle" <> wrote in message
    news:OoN$...
    > Hi all,
    >
    > I have 2 XP computers that I want to network together, one running XP SP2
    > (called white with IP of 192.168.0.1) and the other XP64 (called blackwith
    > IP of 192.168.0.2)
    >
    > File & print sharing is enabled on both machines
    >
    > On machine White, I can ping Black using both the IP address and the name
    > Using the command "net view black" the shares available are not shown and
    > responds with "System error 53 has occurred" ; "The network path was not
    > found"
    > View Workgroup computers shows White and Black, but the Properties of
    > Black
    > are not available when selected
    >
    > On machine Black, I can ping White using both the IP address and the name
    > Using the command "net view white" the shares available are shown
    > View Workgroup computers shows Black only
    >
    > XP firewall has been disabled on both machines for testing purposes
    > Machine White also has the Norton Firewall install, but this has also been
    > disabled for test purposes
    > Machine White is also used for DSL Internet (but with the Firewall enabled
    > at that time)
    >
    > Enable NetBios over TCP/IP has been checked
    > LMHosts has been set up
    >
    > Browser services are running
    > TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper service is running
    >
    > Workgroup is set to HOME on both machines
    >
    > Surely this should be a simple thing to do!
    > Can anyone help me out, I am going mad here!
    >
    > TIA,
    >
    > John.
    >
    > --
    >
    >
    >
     
    DKI, Jun 22, 2005
    #3
  4. John Wintle

    John Wintle Guest

    Well,

    Used the Network Wizard on both machines to reset the network - no
    difference

    Internet Sharing was enabled in the Network setup wizard from the XP
    computer (this one has DSL)

    All of the firewalls are off for this test purpose, but re-enabled for DSL
    use (DSL is USB BTW)

    Still the same results:

    Ping = OK both with IP and Name
    net view white = OK on machine Black
    net view black = System error 53 has occurred; The network path was not
    found; on machine white

    On Black, only itself is visible in the workgroup
    On White, both Black and White are visible in the workgroup, but Black is
    NOT accessable or network path not found

    Any more ideas would be appreciated.

    TIA

    John.


    "DKI" <> wrote in message
    news:%239%...
    > Have you tried to see if both can see each other first without the DSL
    > connected first and all firewalls off. I once did what you did and always
    > found the firewall i tried to set to control the modem side had affected
    > communications with the lan side of things as well and sometimes both PCs
    > would not see each other.
    >
    > I first set rules and also had to lower my firewall a notch for the
    > default setting then decided to get a realy cheap router which was
    > wireless and cheaper that most that was being sold and then all my
    > problems were solved. but i got a hunch the firewall your using on the DSL
    > connection is the problem.
    >
    > "John Wintle" <> wrote in message
    > news:OoN$...
    >> Hi all,
    >>
    >> I have 2 XP computers that I want to network together, one running XP SP2
    >> (called white with IP of 192.168.0.1) and the other XP64 (called
    >> blackwith
    >> IP of 192.168.0.2)
    >>
    >> File & print sharing is enabled on both machines
    >>
    >> On machine White, I can ping Black using both the IP address and the name
    >> Using the command "net view black" the shares available are not shown and
    >> responds with "System error 53 has occurred" ; "The network path was not
    >> found"
    >> View Workgroup computers shows White and Black, but the Properties of
    >> Black
    >> are not available when selected
    >>
    >> On machine Black, I can ping White using both the IP address and the name
    >> Using the command "net view white" the shares available are shown
    >> View Workgroup computers shows Black only
    >>
    >> XP firewall has been disabled on both machines for testing purposes
    >> Machine White also has the Norton Firewall install, but this has also
    >> been
    >> disabled for test purposes
    >> Machine White is also used for DSL Internet (but with the Firewall
    >> enabled
    >> at that time)
    >>
    >> Enable NetBios over TCP/IP has been checked
    >> LMHosts has been set up
    >>
    >> Browser services are running
    >> TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper service is running
    >>
    >> Workgroup is set to HOME on both machines
    >>
    >> Surely this should be a simple thing to do!
    >> Can anyone help me out, I am going mad here!
    >>
    >> TIA,
    >>
    >> John.
    >>
    >> --
    >>
    >>
    >>

    >
    >
     
    John Wintle, Jun 22, 2005
    #4
  5. John Wintle

    DKI Guest

    Give this a try and then see what happens not sure just a hunch but no
    garantees, permentally disable norton firewall or uninstall it, (let see if
    the manual way might help)

    Set up the IP manually on both machines
    Make sure white has no DNS or default gateway set on the network card with
    black.

    Put Whites IP 192.168.0.1 in the DNS and Default gateway on blacks network
    card

    On the dsl connection set it to share the connection with the network card,
    that black is connected to

    In the windows firewall in control panel (for white) under advance tab take
    the tick out of the network card that is connected to black but leave it
    ticked for the DSL firewall and then test it

    "John Wintle" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Well,
    >
    > Used the Network Wizard on both machines to reset the network - no
    > difference
    >
    > Internet Sharing was enabled in the Network setup wizard from the XP
    > computer (this one has DSL)
    >
    > All of the firewalls are off for this test purpose, but re-enabled for DSL
    > use (DSL is USB BTW)
    >
    > Still the same results:
    >
    > Ping = OK both with IP and Name
    > net view white = OK on machine Black
    > net view black = System error 53 has occurred; The network path was not
    > found; on machine white
    >
    > On Black, only itself is visible in the workgroup
    > On White, both Black and White are visible in the workgroup, but Black is
    > NOT accessable or network path not found
    >
    > Any more ideas would be appreciated.
    >
    > TIA
    >
    > John.
    >
    >
    > "DKI" <> wrote in message
    > news:%239%...
    >> Have you tried to see if both can see each other first without the DSL
    >> connected first and all firewalls off. I once did what you did and always
    >> found the firewall i tried to set to control the modem side had affected
    >> communications with the lan side of things as well and sometimes both PCs
    >> would not see each other.
    >>
    >> I first set rules and also had to lower my firewall a notch for the
    >> default setting then decided to get a realy cheap router which was
    >> wireless and cheaper that most that was being sold and then all my
    >> problems were solved. but i got a hunch the firewall your using on the
    >> DSL connection is the problem.
    >>
    >> "John Wintle" <> wrote in message
    >> news:OoN$...
    >>> Hi all,
    >>>
    >>> I have 2 XP computers that I want to network together, one running XP
    >>> SP2
    >>> (called white with IP of 192.168.0.1) and the other XP64 (called
    >>> blackwith
    >>> IP of 192.168.0.2)
    >>>
    >>> File & print sharing is enabled on both machines
    >>>
    >>> On machine White, I can ping Black using both the IP address and the
    >>> name
    >>> Using the command "net view black" the shares available are not shown
    >>> and
    >>> responds with "System error 53 has occurred" ; "The network path was not
    >>> found"
    >>> View Workgroup computers shows White and Black, but the Properties of
    >>> Black
    >>> are not available when selected
    >>>
    >>> On machine Black, I can ping White using both the IP address and the
    >>> name
    >>> Using the command "net view white" the shares available are shown
    >>> View Workgroup computers shows Black only
    >>>
    >>> XP firewall has been disabled on both machines for testing purposes
    >>> Machine White also has the Norton Firewall install, but this has also
    >>> been
    >>> disabled for test purposes
    >>> Machine White is also used for DSL Internet (but with the Firewall
    >>> enabled
    >>> at that time)
    >>>
    >>> Enable NetBios over TCP/IP has been checked
    >>> LMHosts has been set up
    >>>
    >>> Browser services are running
    >>> TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper service is running
    >>>
    >>> Workgroup is set to HOME on both machines
    >>>
    >>> Surely this should be a simple thing to do!
    >>> Can anyone help me out, I am going mad here!
    >>>
    >>> TIA,
    >>>
    >>> John.
    >>>
    >>> --
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>

    >>
    >>

    >
    >
     
    DKI, Jun 22, 2005
    #5
  6. John Wintle

    MHPNW STAFF Guest

    John, are you, or are you not using a network router, or are you connecting
    from computer to computer direct, via cat 5 network cable

    If your connecting direct....make sure that that cable is a cross-over style
    cat5 cable , and not a Std network cable

    Dennis

    "John Wintle" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Well,
    >
    > Used the Network Wizard on both machines to reset the network - no
    > difference
    >
    > Internet Sharing was enabled in the Network setup wizard from the XP
    > computer (this one has DSL)
    >
    > All of the firewalls are off for this test purpose, but re-enabled for DSL
    > use (DSL is USB BTW)
    >
    > Still the same results:
    >
    > Ping = OK both with IP and Name
    > net view white = OK on machine Black
    > net view black = System error 53 has occurred; The network path was not
    > found; on machine white
    >
    > On Black, only itself is visible in the workgroup
    > On White, both Black and White are visible in the workgroup, but Black is
    > NOT accessable or network path not found
    >
    > Any more ideas would be appreciated.
    >
    > TIA
    >
    > John.
    >
    >
    > "DKI" <> wrote in message
    > news:%239%...
    >> Have you tried to see if both can see each other first without the DSL
    >> connected first and all firewalls off. I once did what you did and always
    >> found the firewall i tried to set to control the modem side had affected
    >> communications with the lan side of things as well and sometimes both PCs
    >> would not see each other.
    >>
    >> I first set rules and also had to lower my firewall a notch for the
    >> default setting then decided to get a realy cheap router which was
    >> wireless and cheaper that most that was being sold and then all my
    >> problems were solved. but i got a hunch the firewall your using on the
    >> DSL connection is the problem.
    >>
    >> "John Wintle" <> wrote in message
    >> news:OoN$...
    >>> Hi all,
    >>>
    >>> I have 2 XP computers that I want to network together, one running XP
    >>> SP2
    >>> (called white with IP of 192.168.0.1) and the other XP64 (called
    >>> blackwith
    >>> IP of 192.168.0.2)
    >>>
    >>> File & print sharing is enabled on both machines
    >>>
    >>> On machine White, I can ping Black using both the IP address and the
    >>> name
    >>> Using the command "net view black" the shares available are not shown
    >>> and
    >>> responds with "System error 53 has occurred" ; "The network path was not
    >>> found"
    >>> View Workgroup computers shows White and Black, but the Properties of
    >>> Black
    >>> are not available when selected
    >>>
    >>> On machine Black, I can ping White using both the IP address and the
    >>> name
    >>> Using the command "net view white" the shares available are shown
    >>> View Workgroup computers shows Black only
    >>>
    >>> XP firewall has been disabled on both machines for testing purposes
    >>> Machine White also has the Norton Firewall install, but this has also
    >>> been
    >>> disabled for test purposes
    >>> Machine White is also used for DSL Internet (but with the Firewall
    >>> enabled
    >>> at that time)
    >>>
    >>> Enable NetBios over TCP/IP has been checked
    >>> LMHosts has been set up
    >>>
    >>> Browser services are running
    >>> TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper service is running
    >>>
    >>> Workgroup is set to HOME on both machines
    >>>
    >>> Surely this should be a simple thing to do!
    >>> Can anyone help me out, I am going mad here!
    >>>
    >>> TIA,
    >>>
    >>> John.
    >>>
    >>> --
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>

    >>
    >>

    >
    >
     
    MHPNW STAFF, Jun 22, 2005
    #6
  7. John Wintle

    Randy Guest

    Did this setup work for you previously?

    Can you do a "Start, Search" for each computer from the other machine? If
    you're connecting the two directly (no router), without DNS, WINS, etc.,
    that's sometimes what you're stuck with (and then map each to drive letters
    and select logon automatically with restarts).

    Can each machine ping itself (Computer_Name), localhost, and 127.0.0.1?

    Tried different (new, known good) CAT-5 cables?

    Have you setup shared resources on each system?

    Just brainstorming without the benefit of sleep... ;~)

    "John Wintle" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Well,
    >
    > Used the Network Wizard on both machines to reset the network - no
    > difference
    >
    > Internet Sharing was enabled in the Network setup wizard from the XP
    > computer (this one has DSL)
    >
    > All of the firewalls are off for this test purpose, but re-enabled for DSL
    > use (DSL is USB BTW)
    >
    > Still the same results:
    >
    > Ping = OK both with IP and Name
    > net view white = OK on machine Black
    > net view black = System error 53 has occurred; The network path was not
    > found; on machine white
    >
    > On Black, only itself is visible in the workgroup
    > On White, both Black and White are visible in the workgroup, but Black is
    > NOT accessable or network path not found
    >
    > Any more ideas would be appreciated.
    >
    > TIA
    >
    > John.
    >
    >
    > "DKI" <> wrote in message
    > news:%239%...
    > > Have you tried to see if both can see each other first without the DSL
    > > connected first and all firewalls off. I once did what you did and

    always
    > > found the firewall i tried to set to control the modem side had affected
    > > communications with the lan side of things as well and sometimes both

    PCs
    > > would not see each other.
    > >
    > > I first set rules and also had to lower my firewall a notch for the
    > > default setting then decided to get a realy cheap router which was
    > > wireless and cheaper that most that was being sold and then all my
    > > problems were solved. but i got a hunch the firewall your using on the

    DSL
    > > connection is the problem.
    > >
    > > "John Wintle" <> wrote in message
    > > news:OoN$...
    > >> Hi all,
    > >>
    > >> I have 2 XP computers that I want to network together, one running XP

    SP2
    > >> (called white with IP of 192.168.0.1) and the other XP64 (called
    > >> blackwith
    > >> IP of 192.168.0.2)
    > >>
    > >> File & print sharing is enabled on both machines
    > >>
    > >> On machine White, I can ping Black using both the IP address and the

    name
    > >> Using the command "net view black" the shares available are not shown

    and
    > >> responds with "System error 53 has occurred" ; "The network path was

    not
    > >> found"
    > >> View Workgroup computers shows White and Black, but the Properties of
    > >> Black
    > >> are not available when selected
    > >>
    > >> On machine Black, I can ping White using both the IP address and the

    name
    > >> Using the command "net view white" the shares available are shown
    > >> View Workgroup computers shows Black only
    > >>
    > >> XP firewall has been disabled on both machines for testing purposes
    > >> Machine White also has the Norton Firewall install, but this has also
    > >> been
    > >> disabled for test purposes
    > >> Machine White is also used for DSL Internet (but with the Firewall
    > >> enabled
    > >> at that time)
    > >>
    > >> Enable NetBios over TCP/IP has been checked
    > >> LMHosts has been set up
    > >>
    > >> Browser services are running
    > >> TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper service is running
    > >>
    > >> Workgroup is set to HOME on both machines
    > >>
    > >> Surely this should be a simple thing to do!
    > >> Can anyone help me out, I am going mad here!
    > >>
    > >> TIA,
    > >>
    > >> John.
    > >>
    > >> --
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>

    > >
    > >

    >
    >
     
    Randy, Jun 23, 2005
    #7
  8. John Wintle

    John Wintle Guest

    Dennis

    Don't worry, was using a x-over cable, computer-computer direct.

    John

    "MHPNW STAFF" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > John, are you, or are you not using a network router, or are you
    > connecting from computer to computer direct, via cat 5 network cable
    >
    > If your connecting direct....make sure that that cable is a cross-over
    > style cat5 cable , and not a Std network cable
    >
    > Dennis
    >
    > "John Wintle" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >> Well,
    >>
    >> Used the Network Wizard on both machines to reset the network - no
    >> difference
    >>
    >> Internet Sharing was enabled in the Network setup wizard from the XP
    >> computer (this one has DSL)
    >>
    >> All of the firewalls are off for this test purpose, but re-enabled for
    >> DSL use (DSL is USB BTW)
    >>
    >> Still the same results:
    >>
    >> Ping = OK both with IP and Name
    >> net view white = OK on machine Black
    >> net view black = System error 53 has occurred; The network path was not
    >> found; on machine white
    >>
    >> On Black, only itself is visible in the workgroup
    >> On White, both Black and White are visible in the workgroup, but Black is
    >> NOT accessable or network path not found
    >>
    >> Any more ideas would be appreciated.
    >>
    >> TIA
    >>
    >> John.
    >>
    >>
    >> "DKI" <> wrote in message
    >> news:%239%...
    >>> Have you tried to see if both can see each other first without the DSL
    >>> connected first and all firewalls off. I once did what you did and
    >>> always found the firewall i tried to set to control the modem side had
    >>> affected communications with the lan side of things as well and
    >>> sometimes both PCs would not see each other.
    >>>
    >>> I first set rules and also had to lower my firewall a notch for the
    >>> default setting then decided to get a realy cheap router which was
    >>> wireless and cheaper that most that was being sold and then all my
    >>> problems were solved. but i got a hunch the firewall your using on the
    >>> DSL connection is the problem.
    >>>
    >>> "John Wintle" <> wrote in message
    >>> news:OoN$...
    >>>> Hi all,
    >>>>
    >>>> I have 2 XP computers that I want to network together, one running XP
    >>>> SP2
    >>>> (called white with IP of 192.168.0.1) and the other XP64 (called
    >>>> blackwith
    >>>> IP of 192.168.0.2)
    >>>>
    >>>> File & print sharing is enabled on both machines
    >>>>
    >>>> On machine White, I can ping Black using both the IP address and the
    >>>> name
    >>>> Using the command "net view black" the shares available are not shown
    >>>> and
    >>>> responds with "System error 53 has occurred" ; "The network path was
    >>>> not
    >>>> found"
    >>>> View Workgroup computers shows White and Black, but the Properties of
    >>>> Black
    >>>> are not available when selected
    >>>>
    >>>> On machine Black, I can ping White using both the IP address and the
    >>>> name
    >>>> Using the command "net view white" the shares available are shown
    >>>> View Workgroup computers shows Black only
    >>>>
    >>>> XP firewall has been disabled on both machines for testing purposes
    >>>> Machine White also has the Norton Firewall install, but this has also
    >>>> been
    >>>> disabled for test purposes
    >>>> Machine White is also used for DSL Internet (but with the Firewall
    >>>> enabled
    >>>> at that time)
    >>>>
    >>>> Enable NetBios over TCP/IP has been checked
    >>>> LMHosts has been set up
    >>>>
    >>>> Browser services are running
    >>>> TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper service is running
    >>>>
    >>>> Workgroup is set to HOME on both machines
    >>>>
    >>>> Surely this should be a simple thing to do!
    >>>> Can anyone help me out, I am going mad here!
    >>>>
    >>>> TIA,
    >>>>
    >>>> John.
    >>>>
    >>>> --
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>>

    >>
    >>

    >
    >
     
    John Wintle, Jun 23, 2005
    #8
  9. John Wintle

    John Wintle Guest

    Randy,

    In turn:

    Did not happen previously as Black is a new machine only just purchased.

    On Black, search for machine White comes up with the machine (YES!) and then
    can map a drive
    So if the above works, why does it not show up in the Workgroup?

    On White, Black is not found when doing a search.......

    Each computer can ping itself, localhost and 127.0.0.1
    result the same with all cables
    Shared resources are set up on each computer

    John.



    "Randy" <> wrote in message
    news:%...
    > Did this setup work for you previously?
    >
    > Can you do a "Start, Search" for each computer from the other machine? If
    > you're connecting the two directly (no router), without DNS, WINS, etc.,
    > that's sometimes what you're stuck with (and then map each to drive
    > letters
    > and select logon automatically with restarts).
    >
    > Can each machine ping itself (Computer_Name), localhost, and 127.0.0.1?
    >
    > Tried different (new, known good) CAT-5 cables?
    >
    > Have you setup shared resources on each system?
    >
    > Just brainstorming without the benefit of sleep... ;~)
    >
    > "John Wintle" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >> Well,
    >>
    >> Used the Network Wizard on both machines to reset the network - no
    >> difference
    >>
    >> Internet Sharing was enabled in the Network setup wizard from the XP
    >> computer (this one has DSL)
    >>
    >> All of the firewalls are off for this test purpose, but re-enabled for
    >> DSL
    >> use (DSL is USB BTW)
    >>
    >> Still the same results:
    >>
    >> Ping = OK both with IP and Name
    >> net view white = OK on machine Black
    >> net view black = System error 53 has occurred; The network path was not
    >> found; on machine white
    >>
    >> On Black, only itself is visible in the workgroup
    >> On White, both Black and White are visible in the workgroup, but Black is
    >> NOT accessable or network path not found
    >>
    >> Any more ideas would be appreciated.
    >>
    >> TIA
    >>
    >> John.
    >>
    >>
    >> "DKI" <> wrote in message
    >> news:%239%...
    >> > Have you tried to see if both can see each other first without the DSL
    >> > connected first and all firewalls off. I once did what you did and

    > always
    >> > found the firewall i tried to set to control the modem side had
    >> > affected
    >> > communications with the lan side of things as well and sometimes both

    > PCs
    >> > would not see each other.
    >> >
    >> > I first set rules and also had to lower my firewall a notch for the
    >> > default setting then decided to get a realy cheap router which was
    >> > wireless and cheaper that most that was being sold and then all my
    >> > problems were solved. but i got a hunch the firewall your using on the

    > DSL
    >> > connection is the problem.
    >> >
    >> > "John Wintle" <> wrote in message
    >> > news:OoN$...
    >> >> Hi all,
    >> >>
    >> >> I have 2 XP computers that I want to network together, one running XP

    > SP2
    >> >> (called white with IP of 192.168.0.1) and the other XP64 (called
    >> >> blackwith
    >> >> IP of 192.168.0.2)
    >> >>
    >> >> File & print sharing is enabled on both machines
    >> >>
    >> >> On machine White, I can ping Black using both the IP address and the

    > name
    >> >> Using the command "net view black" the shares available are not shown

    > and
    >> >> responds with "System error 53 has occurred" ; "The network path was

    > not
    >> >> found"
    >> >> View Workgroup computers shows White and Black, but the Properties of
    >> >> Black
    >> >> are not available when selected
    >> >>
    >> >> On machine Black, I can ping White using both the IP address and the

    > name
    >> >> Using the command "net view white" the shares available are shown
    >> >> View Workgroup computers shows Black only
    >> >>
    >> >> XP firewall has been disabled on both machines for testing purposes
    >> >> Machine White also has the Norton Firewall install, but this has also
    >> >> been
    >> >> disabled for test purposes
    >> >> Machine White is also used for DSL Internet (but with the Firewall
    >> >> enabled
    >> >> at that time)
    >> >>
    >> >> Enable NetBios over TCP/IP has been checked
    >> >> LMHosts has been set up
    >> >>
    >> >> Browser services are running
    >> >> TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper service is running
    >> >>
    >> >> Workgroup is set to HOME on both machines
    >> >>
    >> >> Surely this should be a simple thing to do!
    >> >> Can anyone help me out, I am going mad here!
    >> >>
    >> >> TIA,
    >> >>
    >> >> John.
    >> >>
    >> >> --
    >> >>
    >> >>
    >> >>
    >> >
    >> >

    >>
    >>

    >
    >
     
    John Wintle, Jun 24, 2005
    #9
  10. John Wintle

    MHPNW STAFF Guest

    Direct connect just plain sucks...anyway, Spent 20- 45.00, and buy a
    router, and you won't have this problem.
    You can still control access to the web on each machine thru the router
    settings...


    Dennis



    "MHPNW STAFF" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > John, are you, or are you not using a network router, or are you
    > connecting from computer to computer direct, via cat 5 network cable
    >
    > If your connecting direct....make sure that that cable is a cross-over
    > style cat5 cable , and not a Std network cable
    >
    > Dennis
    >
    > "John Wintle" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >> Well,
    >>
    >> Used the Network Wizard on both machines to reset the network - no
    >> difference
    >>
    >> Internet Sharing was enabled in the Network setup wizard from the XP
    >> computer (this one has DSL)
    >>
    >> All of the firewalls are off for this test purpose, but re-enabled for
    >> DSL use (DSL is USB BTW)
    >>
    >> Still the same results:
    >>
    >> Ping = OK both with IP and Name
    >> net view white = OK on machine Black
    >> net view black = System error 53 has occurred; The network path was not
    >> found; on machine white
    >>
    >> On Black, only itself is visible in the workgroup
    >> On White, both Black and White are visible in the workgroup, but Black is
    >> NOT accessable or network path not found
    >>
    >> Any more ideas would be appreciated.
    >>
    >> TIA
    >>
    >> John.
    >>
    >>
    >> "DKI" <> wrote in message
    >> news:%239%...
    >>> Have you tried to see if both can see each other first without the DSL
    >>> connected first and all firewalls off. I once did what you did and
    >>> always found the firewall i tried to set to control the modem side had
    >>> affected communications with the lan side of things as well and
    >>> sometimes both PCs would not see each other.
    >>>
    >>> I first set rules and also had to lower my firewall a notch for the
    >>> default setting then decided to get a realy cheap router which was
    >>> wireless and cheaper that most that was being sold and then all my
    >>> problems were solved. but i got a hunch the firewall your using on the
    >>> DSL connection is the problem.
    >>>
    >>> "John Wintle" <> wrote in message
    >>> news:OoN$...
    >>>> Hi all,
    >>>>
    >>>> I have 2 XP computers that I want to network together, one running XP
    >>>> SP2
    >>>> (called white with IP of 192.168.0.1) and the other XP64 (called
    >>>> blackwith
    >>>> IP of 192.168.0.2)
    >>>>
    >>>> File & print sharing is enabled on both machines
    >>>>
    >>>> On machine White, I can ping Black using both the IP address and the
    >>>> name
    >>>> Using the command "net view black" the shares available are not shown
    >>>> and
    >>>> responds with "System error 53 has occurred" ; "The network path was
    >>>> not
    >>>> found"
    >>>> View Workgroup computers shows White and Black, but the Properties of
    >>>> Black
    >>>> are not available when selected
    >>>>
    >>>> On machine Black, I can ping White using both the IP address and the
    >>>> name
    >>>> Using the command "net view white" the shares available are shown
    >>>> View Workgroup computers shows Black only
    >>>>
    >>>> XP firewall has been disabled on both machines for testing purposes
    >>>> Machine White also has the Norton Firewall install, but this has also
    >>>> been
    >>>> disabled for test purposes
    >>>> Machine White is also used for DSL Internet (but with the Firewall
    >>>> enabled
    >>>> at that time)
    >>>>
    >>>> Enable NetBios over TCP/IP has been checked
    >>>> LMHosts has been set up
    >>>>
    >>>> Browser services are running
    >>>> TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper service is running
    >>>>
    >>>> Workgroup is set to HOME on both machines
    >>>>
    >>>> Surely this should be a simple thing to do!
    >>>> Can anyone help me out, I am going mad here!
    >>>>
    >>>> TIA,
    >>>>
    >>>> John.
    >>>>
    >>>> --
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>>

    >>
    >>

    >
    >
     
    MHPNW STAFF, Jun 25, 2005
    #10
  11. John Wintle

    Randy Guest

    Well,

    It might just be network orneriness. Or it might be because you're not using
    a server or router in your setup to carry out DHCP, WINS, DNS, etc.
    functions.

    A couple of other things you might try in case they are at fault are to
    uninstall and then re-install both TCP/IP for the NIC on each system (one at
    a time, try again, do second), and then ditto for the NIC drivers themselves
    (actually, I'd try those first).

    Have you tried going back through the network setup wizard? That'd be my
    next choice if the re-installs don't work and you don't want to buy a router
    (although wired + 802.11b or g ones are $10 to $20 after rebate at
    MicroCenter).

    "John Wintle" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Randy,
    >
    > In turn:
    >
    > Did not happen previously as Black is a new machine only just purchased.
    >
    > On Black, search for machine White comes up with the machine (YES!) and

    then
    > can map a drive
    > So if the above works, why does it not show up in the Workgroup?
    >
    > On White, Black is not found when doing a search.......
    >
    > Each computer can ping itself, localhost and 127.0.0.1
    > result the same with all cables
    > Shared resources are set up on each computer
    >
    > John.
    >
    >
    >
    > "Randy" <> wrote in message
    > news:%...
    > > Did this setup work for you previously?
    > >
    > > Can you do a "Start, Search" for each computer from the other machine?

    If
    > > you're connecting the two directly (no router), without DNS, WINS, etc.,
    > > that's sometimes what you're stuck with (and then map each to drive
    > > letters
    > > and select logon automatically with restarts).
    > >
    > > Can each machine ping itself (Computer_Name), localhost, and 127.0.0.1?
    > >
    > > Tried different (new, known good) CAT-5 cables?
    > >
    > > Have you setup shared resources on each system?
    > >
    > > Just brainstorming without the benefit of sleep... ;~)
    > >
    > > "John Wintle" <> wrote in message
    > > news:...
    > >> Well,
    > >>
    > >> Used the Network Wizard on both machines to reset the network - no
    > >> difference
    > >>
    > >> Internet Sharing was enabled in the Network setup wizard from the XP
    > >> computer (this one has DSL)
    > >>
    > >> All of the firewalls are off for this test purpose, but re-enabled for
    > >> DSL
    > >> use (DSL is USB BTW)
    > >>
    > >> Still the same results:
    > >>
    > >> Ping = OK both with IP and Name
    > >> net view white = OK on machine Black
    > >> net view black = System error 53 has occurred; The network path was not
    > >> found; on machine white
    > >>
    > >> On Black, only itself is visible in the workgroup
    > >> On White, both Black and White are visible in the workgroup, but Black

    is
    > >> NOT accessable or network path not found
    > >>
    > >> Any more ideas would be appreciated.
    > >>
    > >> TIA
    > >>
    > >> John.
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> "DKI" <> wrote in message
    > >> news:%239%...
    > >> > Have you tried to see if both can see each other first without the

    DSL
    > >> > connected first and all firewalls off. I once did what you did and

    > > always
    > >> > found the firewall i tried to set to control the modem side had
    > >> > affected
    > >> > communications with the lan side of things as well and sometimes both

    > > PCs
    > >> > would not see each other.
    > >> >
    > >> > I first set rules and also had to lower my firewall a notch for the
    > >> > default setting then decided to get a realy cheap router which was
    > >> > wireless and cheaper that most that was being sold and then all my
    > >> > problems were solved. but i got a hunch the firewall your using on

    the
    > > DSL
    > >> > connection is the problem.
    > >> >
    > >> > "John Wintle" <> wrote in message
    > >> > news:OoN$...
    > >> >> Hi all,
    > >> >>
    > >> >> I have 2 XP computers that I want to network together, one running

    XP
    > > SP2
    > >> >> (called white with IP of 192.168.0.1) and the other XP64 (called
    > >> >> blackwith
    > >> >> IP of 192.168.0.2)
    > >> >>
    > >> >> File & print sharing is enabled on both machines
    > >> >>
    > >> >> On machine White, I can ping Black using both the IP address and the

    > > name
    > >> >> Using the command "net view black" the shares available are not

    shown
    > > and
    > >> >> responds with "System error 53 has occurred" ; "The network path was

    > > not
    > >> >> found"
    > >> >> View Workgroup computers shows White and Black, but the Properties

    of
    > >> >> Black
    > >> >> are not available when selected
    > >> >>
    > >> >> On machine Black, I can ping White using both the IP address and the

    > > name
    > >> >> Using the command "net view white" the shares available are shown
    > >> >> View Workgroup computers shows Black only
    > >> >>
    > >> >> XP firewall has been disabled on both machines for testing purposes
    > >> >> Machine White also has the Norton Firewall install, but this has

    also
    > >> >> been
    > >> >> disabled for test purposes
    > >> >> Machine White is also used for DSL Internet (but with the Firewall
    > >> >> enabled
    > >> >> at that time)
    > >> >>
    > >> >> Enable NetBios over TCP/IP has been checked
    > >> >> LMHosts has been set up
    > >> >>
    > >> >> Browser services are running
    > >> >> TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper service is running
    > >> >>
    > >> >> Workgroup is set to HOME on both machines
    > >> >>
    > >> >> Surely this should be a simple thing to do!
    > >> >> Can anyone help me out, I am going mad here!
    > >> >>
    > >> >> TIA,
    > >> >>
    > >> >> John.
    > >> >>
    > >> >> --
    > >> >>
    > >> >>
    > >> >>
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >>
    > >>

    > >
    > >

    >
    >
     
    Randy, Jun 25, 2005
    #11
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