xp home syskey and xp professional recovery console-registry problem

Discussion in 'Computer Support' started by poster, Feb 5, 2009.

  1. poster

    poster Guest

    After probably registry corruption toshiba satellite wont boot even to
    safe mode,
    so tried recovery console from an available xp pro cd because the
    toshiba disk is a Recovery cd that offers only full reinstall.However
    xp pro recovery console will not accept a blank admin pass to 'enter'
    windows so used a tool to setup-change pass which says pass is syskey
    protected
    1.What if syskey is disabled(by the http://home.eunet.no/~pnordahl/ntpasswd/
    , tool)-will it be still possible to set up admin pass to be able to
    use xp pro cd recovery console to do registry repair as
    http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=307545
    2.Since that cannot fix but input a first ever registry copy apps will
    need to be reinstalled
    so how about some better registry repair idea-make another partition
    with xp pro in it and use some specialised reg repair software or
    perhaps this would help
    http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm
    thanks in advance
     
    poster, Feb 5, 2009
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  2. Re: xp home syskey and xp professional recovery console-registryproblem

    Anglomont,

    If think you're jumping the gun with assuming it's something to do with the
    registry. If your computer isn't even booting into safe mode or windows XP
    then there may be something wrong with either your boot file or sector.

    I don't know too much about syskey unfortunately, but did you already try
    'password' as the password?

    Thanks,

    Sinbad


    On 05/02/2009 15:20, in article
    , "poster"
    <> wrote:

    > After probably registry corruption toshiba satellite wont boot even to
    > safe mode,
    > so tried recovery console from an available xp pro cd because the
    > toshiba disk is a Recovery cd that offers only full reinstall.However
    > xp pro recovery console will not accept a blank admin pass to 'enter'
    > windows so used a tool to setup-change pass which says pass is syskey
    > protected
    > 1.What if syskey is disabled(by the http://home.eunet.no/~pnordahl/ntpasswd/
    > , tool)-will it be still possible to set up admin pass to be able to
    > use xp pro cd recovery console to do registry repair as
    > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=307545
    > 2.Since that cannot fix but input a first ever registry copy apps will
    > need to be reinstalled
    > so how about some better registry repair idea-make another partition
    > with xp pro in it and use some specialised reg repair software or
    > perhaps this would help
    > http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm
    > thanks in advance
     
    Sinbad The Sailor, Feb 5, 2009
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  3. poster

    Leonard Grey Guest

    Re: xp home syskey and xp professional recovery console-registryproblem

    There is no "reg repair software" and, in general, you cannot run
    software from the repair console.

    In order to repair corrupted registry keys, you need to know
    specifically which keys and subkeys were corrupted and what the correct
    data should be.

    In your case, you need to erase your hard disk and start over.
    ---
    Leonard Grey
    Errare humanum est

    poster wrote:
    > After probably registry corruption toshiba satellite wont boot even to
    > safe mode,
    > so tried recovery console from an available xp pro cd because the
    > toshiba disk is a Recovery cd that offers only full reinstall.However
    > xp pro recovery console will not accept a blank admin pass to 'enter'
    > windows so used a tool to setup-change pass which says pass is syskey
    > protected
    > 1.What if syskey is disabled(by the http://home.eunet.no/~pnordahl/ntpasswd/
    > , tool)-will it be still possible to set up admin pass to be able to
    > use xp pro cd recovery console to do registry repair as
    > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=307545
    > 2.Since that cannot fix but input a first ever registry copy apps will
    > need to be reinstalled
    > so how about some better registry repair idea-make another partition
    > with xp pro in it and use some specialised reg repair software or
    > perhaps this would help
    > http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm
    > thanks in advance
     
    Leonard Grey, Feb 5, 2009
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  4. poster

    PeeCee Guest

    "poster" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > After probably registry corruption toshiba satellite wont boot even to
    > safe mode,
    > so tried recovery console from an available xp pro cd because the
    > toshiba disk is a Recovery cd that offers only full reinstall.However
    > xp pro recovery console will not accept a blank admin pass to 'enter'
    > windows so used a tool to setup-change pass which says pass is syskey
    > protected
    > 1.What if syskey is disabled(by the
    > http://home.eunet.no/~pnordahl/ntpasswd/
    > , tool)-will it be still possible to set up admin pass to be able to
    > use xp pro cd recovery console to do registry repair as
    > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=307545
    > 2.Since that cannot fix but input a first ever registry copy apps will
    > need to be reinstalled
    > so how about some better registry repair idea-make another partition
    > with xp pro in it and use some specialised reg repair software or
    > perhaps this would help
    > http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm
    > thanks in advance




    If you cannot bypass the password issue I would suggest the 'quickest'
    solution is to back the drive up (usb external caddies are good for this)
    and run the Toshiba restore disk.
    You are likely to spend 'many' hours working through the many possible
    solutions to your problem, maybe even days and still not get if fixed.
    Best to backup & restore.

    Best
    Paul.
     
    PeeCee, Feb 5, 2009
    #4
  5. poster

    poster Guest

    Re: xp home syskey and xp professional recovery console-registryproblem

    On Feb 5, 2:45 pm, "PeeCee" <> wrote:
    > "poster" <> wrote in message
    >
    > news:...
    >
    >
    >
    > > After probably registry corruption toshiba satellite wont boot even to
    > > safe mode,
    > > so tried recovery console from an available xp pro cd because the
    > > toshiba disk is a Recovery cd that offers only full reinstall.However
    > > xp pro recovery console will not accept a blank admin pass to 'enter'
    > > windows so used a tool to setup-change pass which says pass is syskey
    > > protected
    > > 1.What if syskey is disabled(by the
    > >http://home.eunet.no/~pnordahl/ntpasswd/
    > > , tool)-will it be still possible to set up admin pass to be able to
    > > use xp pro cd recovery console to do registry repair as
    > >http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=307545
    > > 2.Since that cannot fix but input a first ever registry copy apps will
    > > need to be reinstalled
    > > so how about some better registry repair idea-make another partition
    > > with xp pro in it and use some specialised reg repair software or
    > > perhaps this would help
    > >http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm
    > > thanks in advance

    >
    > If you cannot bypass the password issue I would suggest the 'quickest'
    > solution is to back the drive up (usb external caddies are good for this)
    > and run the Toshiba restore disk.
    > You are likely to spend 'many' hours working through the many possible
    > solutions to your problem, maybe even days and still not get if fixed.
    > Best to backup & restore.
    >
    > Best
    > Paul.


    Thanks I ll do it to a newly made partition(no caddy available)
    I wonder if passwords can be normally set up after the syskey is
    disabled and if disabled syskey might affect xp performance?
     
    poster, Feb 6, 2009
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  6. poster

    PeeCee Guest

    "poster" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > On Feb 5, 2:45 pm, "PeeCee" <> wrote:
    >> "poster" <> wrote in message
    >>
    >> news:...
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> > After probably registry corruption toshiba satellite wont boot even to
    >> > safe mode,
    >> > so tried recovery console from an available xp pro cd because the
    >> > toshiba disk is a Recovery cd that offers only full reinstall.However
    >> > xp pro recovery console will not accept a blank admin pass to 'enter'
    >> > windows so used a tool to setup-change pass which says pass is syskey
    >> > protected
    >> > 1.What if syskey is disabled(by the
    >> >http://home.eunet.no/~pnordahl/ntpasswd/
    >> > , tool)-will it be still possible to set up admin pass to be able to
    >> > use xp pro cd recovery console to do registry repair as
    >> >http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=307545
    >> > 2.Since that cannot fix but input a first ever registry copy apps will
    >> > need to be reinstalled
    >> > so how about some better registry repair idea-make another partition
    >> > with xp pro in it and use some specialised reg repair software or
    >> > perhaps this would help
    >> >http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm
    >> > thanks in advance

    >>
    >> If you cannot bypass the password issue I would suggest the 'quickest'
    >> solution is to back the drive up (usb external caddies are good for this)
    >> and run the Toshiba restore disk.
    >> You are likely to spend 'many' hours working through the many possible
    >> solutions to your problem, maybe even days and still not get if fixed.
    >> Best to backup & restore.
    >>
    >> Best
    >> Paul.

    >
    > Thanks I ll do it to a newly made partition(no caddy available)
    > I wonder if passwords can be normally set up after the syskey is
    > disabled and if disabled syskey might affect xp performance?




    Couple of comments:

    Your Toshiba restore disk may not (probably not) allow you to restore to a
    particular partition.
    For your data to be safe you should delay restoration from your Toshiba Disk
    until you have a decent backup/image.

    This page http://www.irongeek.com/i.php?page=security/localsamcrack2 seems
    to have an easy to follow set of intructions for cracking passwords Syskey
    enabled or disabled.
    Note Syskey just encrypts the SAM data base for extra security, with Syskey
    off the password hash still resides in the SAM database so yes you can still
    setup a password.
    Syskey has been enabled by default in every version of Windows following NT4
    SP3 (see link above) as it's only involved in encrypting the SAM database. I
    don't see how it is going to have any affect on performance, after all you
    only use it when you enter your password at system startup.

    Best
    Paul.
     
    PeeCee, Feb 6, 2009
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