XP Activation Workaround

Discussion in 'NZ Computing' started by Rider, Nov 3, 2005.

  1. Rider

    Rider Guest

    All the websites say all you do is backup the two wpa files to disk. Install
    XP on the same hardware, boot to safe mode after the reinstall and put the
    wpa files back in the system32 directory. Reboot and its all go.

    Up until now I haven't hads the time, nor the inclination to try this ...
    until today. Clients system files were screwed .. so I backed up his wpa
    files to disk. Reinstalled a fresh XP. After installation I booted to safe
    mode and copied the wpa files back to where they belong.

    Rebooted the machine ... and its still telling me it requires activation!!!!

    Anyone done this successfully? I didn't change any of the hardware ... apart
    from formatting the HDD during the install.

    Rider
     
    Rider, Nov 3, 2005
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  2. Rider

    David Guest

    Rider wrote:
    > All the websites say all you do is backup the two wpa files to disk. Install
    > XP on the same hardware, boot to safe mode after the reinstall and put the
    > wpa files back in the system32 directory. Reboot and its all go.
    >
    > Up until now I haven't hads the time, nor the inclination to try this ...
    > until today. Clients system files were screwed .. so I backed up his wpa
    > files to disk. Reinstalled a fresh XP. After installation I booted to safe
    > mode and copied the wpa files back to where they belong.
    >
    > Rebooted the machine ... and its still telling me it requires activation!!!!
    >
    > Anyone done this successfully? I didn't change any of the hardware ... apart
    > from formatting the HDD during the install.
    >
    > Rider
    >
    >

    Try activating it again, it sometimes works, even if you have the same
    copy simultaneously installed on two pcs. I found that it wouldnt
    activate over the internet, but it would activate if i let it dialup to
    an 0800 number
     
    David, Nov 3, 2005
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  3. Rider

    Rider Guest

    "David" <> wrote in
    message news:Nvjaf.487$...
    > Rider wrote:
    >> All the websites say all you do is backup the two wpa files to disk.
    >> Install XP on the same hardware, boot to safe mode after the reinstall
    >> and put the wpa files back in the system32 directory. Reboot and its all
    >> go.
    >>
    >> Up until now I haven't hads the time, nor the inclination to try this ...
    >> until today. Clients system files were screwed .. so I backed up his wpa
    >> files to disk. Reinstalled a fresh XP. After installation I booted to
    >> safe mode and copied the wpa files back to where they belong.
    >>
    >> Rebooted the machine ... and its still telling me it requires
    >> activation!!!!
    >>
    >> Anyone done this successfully? I didn't change any of the hardware ...
    >> apart from formatting the HDD during the install.
    >>
    >> Rider
    >>
    >>

    > Try activating it again, it sometimes works, even if you have the same
    > copy simultaneously installed on two pcs. I found that it wouldnt activate
    > over the internet, but it would activate if i let it dialup to an 0800
    > number


    Activating isn't the issue. I will just activate it.

    I just wanted to see if the workaround .. actually worked ... and it didn't.
    So I'm curious if I mucked it up, or if no one has been able to do it.

    Would save a hassle for machines that havent chnaged hardware, and we're
    just reinstalling a clean OS.

    Rider
     
    Rider, Nov 3, 2005
    #3
  4. Rider

    colinco Guest

    In article Rider says...
    > Would save a hassle for machines that havent chnaged hardware, and we're
    > just reinstalling a clean OS.
    >

    In case it matters, did you use the same type of XP as original(
    OEM,Upgrade,retail etc)?
     
    colinco, Nov 3, 2005
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  5. Rider

    XP Guest

    On Thu, 3 Nov 2005 21:22:28 +1300, "Rider" <>
    wrote:

    >"David" <> wrote in
    >message news:Nvjaf.487$...
    >> Rider wrote:
    >>> All the websites say all you do is backup the two wpa files to disk.
    >>> Install XP on the same hardware, boot to safe mode after the reinstall
    >>> and put the wpa files back in the system32 directory. Reboot and its all
    >>> go.
    >>>
    >>> Up until now I haven't hads the time, nor the inclination to try this ...
    >>> until today. Clients system files were screwed .. so I backed up his wpa
    >>> files to disk. Reinstalled a fresh XP. After installation I booted to
    >>> safe mode and copied the wpa files back to where they belong.
    >>>
    >>> Rebooted the machine ... and its still telling me it requires
    >>> activation!!!!
    >>>
    >>> Anyone done this successfully? I didn't change any of the hardware ...
    >>> apart from formatting the HDD during the install.
    >>>
    >>> Rider
    >>>
    >>>

    >> Try activating it again, it sometimes works, even if you have the same
    >> copy simultaneously installed on two pcs. I found that it wouldnt activate
    >> over the internet, but it would activate if i let it dialup to an 0800
    >> number

    >
    >Activating isn't the issue. I will just activate it.
    >
    >I just wanted to see if the workaround .. actually worked ... and it didn't.
    >So I'm curious if I mucked it up, or if no one has been able to do it.
    >
    >Would save a hassle for machines that havent chnaged hardware, and we're
    >just reinstalling a clean OS.
    >
    >Rider
    >




    This method to backup wpa files to disk. does not work 100% more like 30%
    of the time.
     
    XP, Nov 3, 2005
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  6. Rider

    Rider Guest

    "colinco" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > In article Rider says...
    >> Would save a hassle for machines that havent chnaged hardware, and we're
    >> just reinstalling a clean OS.
    >>

    > In case it matters, did you use the same type of XP as original(
    > OEM,Upgrade,retail etc)?


    I used the XP install CD the client gave me, and the CD key form the side of
    his case.

    The only thing that might have changed is if the original install was on a
    FAT32 partition. I use NTFS partitions.
     
    Rider, Nov 3, 2005
    #6
  7. Rider

    Impossible Guest

    "Rider" <> wrote in message
    news:cTtaf.533$...
    >
    > "colinco" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >> In article Rider says...
    >>> Would save a hassle for machines that havent chnaged hardware, and
    >>> we're
    >>> just reinstalling a clean OS.
    >>>

    >> In case it matters, did you use the same type of XP as original(
    >> OEM,Upgrade,retail etc)?

    >
    > I used the XP install CD the client gave me, and the CD key form the
    > side of his case.
    >
    > The only thing that might have changed is if the original install
    > was on a FAT32 partition. I use NTFS partitions.
    >


    This may help: http://aumha.org/win5/a/wpa.php

    Two things are recorded for disks: the number of the disk drive
    itself, and the Volume Serial Number (VSN) of the partition on it.
    HINT No. 1: The VSN is part of the data in the partition's first
    sector, so it is changed when you reformat the drive. It is worth
    getting the freeware utility Volume ID to restore the original VSN.
    Before you reformat, run VOL from a Command Prompt, note the VSN
    (e.g., 1F2E-3C4B) in the second line. Then, after the reformat and new
    Windows XP installation, defer the new activation until you have run
    Volume ID to restore the old VSN, and rebooted. This is not essential
    - but it saves one of the 'Yes votes' against any future hardware
    change. (If you don't wish to run this utility, the next best way to
    obtain the same result would be to delete the old Win XP files from
    the hard drive before reinstalling, rather than actually
    reformatting.)

    HINT No. 2: Another thing that changes the VSN is converting a FAT 32
    partition to NTFS. So, if you upgrade a system using FAT 32 to Windows
    XP and intend to convert to NTFS, do the conversion before activating
    the system. Remember, you can wait a while: you have 30 days before
    you need to activate. The machine's hardware at the time of the first
    activation is what counts. Or, if you have already activated, use
    Volume ID as described in Hint No. 1. If you are doing this after
    activation, also first back up the WPA.DBL and WPA.BAK files, as
    described in Hint No. 3 below, and, after completion of the
    conversion, restore these files and reboot again.

    HINT No. 3: It is valuable to back up the two files WPA.DBL and
    WPA.BAK from the Windows\System32 folder.Then, should they get
    damaged, or should you do a 'Repair' reinstallation of Win XP, these
    files can be copied back to restore the prior activation status.
    However, this only works in those limited circumstances. The contents
    of these two files is matched to the specific Windows setup;
    therefore, contrary to what many journalists and members of the user
    community have written in recent months, restoring these files will
    not restore your activation status following a reformat and clean
    install.
     
    Impossible, Nov 3, 2005
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  8. Rider

    Rider Guest

    "Impossible" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > "Rider" <> wrote in message
    > news:cTtaf.533$...
    >>
    >> "colinco" <> wrote in message
    >> news:...
    >>> In article Rider says...
    >>>> Would save a hassle for machines that havent chnaged hardware, and
    >>>> we're
    >>>> just reinstalling a clean OS.
    >>>>
    >>> In case it matters, did you use the same type of XP as original(
    >>> OEM,Upgrade,retail etc)?

    >>
    >> I used the XP install CD the client gave me, and the CD key form the side
    >> of his case.
    >>
    >> The only thing that might have changed is if the original install was on
    >> a FAT32 partition. I use NTFS partitions.
    >>

    >
    > This may help: http://aumha.org/win5/a/wpa.php
    >
    > Two things are recorded for disks: the number of the disk drive
    > itself, and the Volume Serial Number (VSN) of the partition on it.
    > HINT No. 1: The VSN is part of the data in the partition's first
    > sector, so it is changed when you reformat the drive. It is worth
    > getting the freeware utility Volume ID to restore the original VSN.
    > Before you reformat, run VOL from a Command Prompt, note the VSN
    > (e.g., 1F2E-3C4B) in the second line. Then, after the reformat and new
    > Windows XP installation, defer the new activation until you have run
    > Volume ID to restore the old VSN, and rebooted. This is not essential
    > - but it saves one of the 'Yes votes' against any future hardware
    > change. (If you don't wish to run this utility, the next best way to
    > obtain the same result would be to delete the old Win XP files from
    > the hard drive before reinstalling, rather than actually
    > reformatting.)
    >
    > HINT No. 2: Another thing that changes the VSN is converting a FAT 32
    > partition to NTFS. So, if you upgrade a system using FAT 32 to Windows
    > XP and intend to convert to NTFS, do the conversion before activating
    > the system. Remember, you can wait a while: you have 30 days before
    > you need to activate. The machine's hardware at the time of the first
    > activation is what counts. Or, if you have already activated, use
    > Volume ID as described in Hint No. 1. If you are doing this after
    > activation, also first back up the WPA.DBL and WPA.BAK files, as
    > described in Hint No. 3 below, and, after completion of the
    > conversion, restore these files and reboot again.
    >
    > HINT No. 3: It is valuable to back up the two files WPA.DBL and
    > WPA.BAK from the Windows\System32 folder.Then, should they get
    > damaged, or should you do a 'Repair' reinstallation of Win XP, these
    > files can be copied back to restore the prior activation status.
    > However, this only works in those limited circumstances. The contents
    > of these two files is matched to the specific Windows setup;
    > therefore, contrary to what many journalists and members of the user
    > community have written in recent months, restoring these files will
    > not restore your activation status following a reformat and clean
    > install.
    >
    >
    >
    >


    Yeah, thanks. I'd read and its the only thing that might have changed.

    Rider
     
    Rider, Nov 3, 2005
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  9. Rider

    S Roby Guest

    There is a crack available to get rid of activation 'issues"
    Works fine on XP Pro

    I thinks these are the files ( there are many XP cracks that just dont work)
    Most XP keygens are BS, they just give you 'stolen' keys from a list.

    WPA_Kill.exe
    windowsxpwpapatchv1.1patch.zip

    I used this after a legitimate install & didnt want to spend 10minutes on the
    phone as the PC has no internet connection.
     
    S Roby, Nov 4, 2005
    #9
  10. Rider

    BTMO Guest

    "David" <> wrote

    > Try activating it again, it sometimes works, even if you have the same
    > copy simultaneously installed on two pcs. I found that it wouldnt activate
    > over the internet, but it would activate if i let it dialup to an 0800
    > number


    I had occassion to call that 0800 number once, to activate a product I had
    recently bought - it wouldn't activate via the 'net.

    The line was *terrible*, the delay in the call was *awful* and the woman in
    (I assume) Delhi spoke pretty poor English. She was also the most annoying
    customer "service" person I have ever had the misfortune to deal with.

    Microsoft are *frigging* useless!

    The conversation went something like this...

    Me: I want to activate a product I just bought.

    Microsoft: You are a software pirate.

    Me: !!! I have the receipt right here! I can quote you the details! I only
    bought the product today!

    Microsoft: I have no way of checking that.

    Me: I have the little hologram sticker on the back of the jewel case. The
    number is...

    Microsoft: I have no way of checking that.

    Me: Let me speak to your supervisor.

    Microsoft: (bored) give me the details.

    Two seconds later, the product was activated. Amazing. It took me many
    minutes to get to that point.
     
    BTMO, Nov 4, 2005
    #10
  11. Rider

    David Guest

    BTMO wrote:
    > "David" <> wrote
    >
    >
    >>Try activating it again, it sometimes works, even if you have the same
    >>copy simultaneously installed on two pcs. I found that it wouldnt activate
    >>over the internet, but it would activate if i let it dialup to an 0800
    >>number

    >
    >
    > I had occassion to call that 0800 number once, to activate a product I had
    > recently bought - it wouldn't activate via the 'net.
    >
    > The line was *terrible*, the delay in the call was *awful* and the woman in
    > (I assume) Delhi spoke pretty poor English. She was also the most annoying
    > customer "service" person I have ever had the misfortune to deal with.
    >
    > Microsoft are *frigging* useless!
    >
    > The conversation went something like this...
    >
    > Me: I want to activate a product I just bought.
    >
    > Microsoft: You are a software pirate.
    >
    > Me: !!! I have the receipt right here! I can quote you the details! I only
    > bought the product today!
    >
    > Microsoft: I have no way of checking that.
    >
    > Me: I have the little hologram sticker on the back of the jewel case. The
    > number is...
    >
    > Microsoft: I have no way of checking that.
    >
    > Me: Let me speak to your supervisor.
    >
    > Microsoft: (bored) give me the details.
    >
    > Two seconds later, the product was activated. Amazing. It took me many
    > minutes to get to that point.
    >
    >
    >


    Oh, sorry, i meant allow windows to dial the number, with the modem.
     
    David, Nov 6, 2005
    #11
  12. Rider

    James West Guest


    > The conversation went something like this...

    ^^^^^^^^^^^

    >
    > Me: I want to activate a product I just bought.
    >
    > Microsoft: You are a software pirate.
    >
    >


    Yeah Right
     
    James West, Nov 6, 2005
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  13. Rider

    BTMO Guest

    "James West" <> wrote

    >> The conversation went something like this...

    > ^^^^^^^^^^^
    >
    >>
    >> Me: I want to activate a product I just bought.
    >>
    >> Microsoft: You are a software pirate.
    >>

    > Yeah Right


    Well, sorry I can't reproduce it verbatim. It has been a wee while...
     
    BTMO, Nov 6, 2005
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