WPA2-AES, but notification area bubble says "(unsecured)"

Discussion in 'Wireless Networking' started by Michel Thebeau, Dec 16, 2008.

  1. I have a wireless network setup using WPA2 with AES. I recently noticed that
    the notification area bubble sometimes shows the wireless connection as
    "(unsecured)" even though the computer and access points are configured for
    WPA2 and AES.

    I would like to know if there is a known issue in Windows XP with service
    pack 2?

    My knowledge base searches haven't found anything yet.

    Thank you for your time,

    Michel
    Michel Thebeau, Dec 16, 2008
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  2. Michel Thebeau

    Big_Al Guest

    Michel Thebeau wrote:
    > I have a wireless network setup using WPA2 with AES. I recently noticed that
    > the notification area bubble sometimes shows the wireless connection as
    > "(unsecured)" even though the computer and access points are configured for
    > WPA2 and AES.
    >
    > I would like to know if there is a known issue in Windows XP with service
    > pack 2?
    >
    > My knowledge base searches haven't found anything yet.
    >
    > Thank you for your time,
    >
    > Michel
    >

    I get the same issue. I put my laptop to standby when I'm not using
    it, and then wake it up to see it try to acquire. Then I see the
    (unsecured) connection. I changed settings once to unsecured and then
    back. It wasn't until then that I noticed this. So its kinda like
    its finding the router info but the bubble is bringing up the wrong
    title from an old history? Got me, but I see it too. And oddly enough
    I have WPA2 AES.
    Big_Al, Dec 16, 2008
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  3. Michel Thebeau

    Pavel A. Guest

    Big_Al wrote:
    > Michel Thebeau wrote:
    >> I have a wireless network setup using WPA2 with AES. I recently
    >> noticed that the notification area bubble sometimes shows the wireless
    >> connection as "(unsecured)" even though the computer and access points
    >> are configured for WPA2 and AES.
    >>
    >> I would like to know if there is a known issue in Windows XP with
    >> service pack 2?
    >>
    >> My knowledge base searches haven't found anything yet.
    >>
    >> Thank you for your time,
    >>
    >> Michel
    >>

    > I get the same issue. I put my laptop to standby when I'm not using
    > it, and then wake it up to see it try to acquire. Then I see the
    > (unsecured) connection. I changed settings once to unsecured and then
    > back. It wasn't until then that I noticed this. So its kinda like
    > its finding the router info but the bubble is bringing up the wrong
    > title from an old history? Got me, but I see it too. And oddly enough
    > I have WPA2 AES.


    Of course, XP2 has known issues - otherwise there won't be SP3.
    A wi-fi sniffer can solve these doubts...

    --PA
    Pavel A., Dec 16, 2008
    #3
  4. Hi
    When this happens check if you are connecting to another Wireless source.
    Configuring your Wireless source to WPA-AES and the computer's Wireless as
    related to your SSID, does not preclude None Secure connection to other
    sources.
    Jack (MS, MVP-Networking)

    "Michel Thebeau" <Michel > wrote in message
    news:...
    >I have a wireless network setup using WPA2 with AES. I recently noticed
    >that
    > the notification area bubble sometimes shows the wireless connection as
    > "(unsecured)" even though the computer and access points are configured
    > for
    > WPA2 and AES.
    >
    > I would like to know if there is a known issue in Windows XP with service
    > pack 2?
    >
    > My knowledge base searches haven't found anything yet.
    >
    > Thank you for your time,
    >
    > Michel
    >
    Jack \(MVP-Networking\)., Dec 16, 2008
    #4
  5. Thank you.

    Yeah, we've 15000 laptops to update. It sometimes helps to raise the
    priority of getting things upgraded if we can lay a little fire under the
    table. I was hoping there was a tech note somewhere that said the
    notification area bubble was being silly or that there's actually a flaw.

    I do appreciate the info in your replies.

    The access points we use detect rogues networks, so I'm confident that there
    are no other networks involved...

    Cheers,

    Michel
    Michel Thebeau, Dec 16, 2008
    #5
  6. > When this happens check if you are connecting to another Wireless source.
    > Configuring your Wireless source to WPA-AES and the computer's Wireless as
    > related to your SSID, does not preclude None Secure connection to other
    > sources.


    Thanks Jack,

    Could you clarify that statement in context if I said that we use peap and
    ms-chap v2 for authentication? I'm not sure what you meant really. Even
    with wpa2-psk I would not expect "does not preclude [non-secure] connection
    to other sources"

    I'm thinking that you might have intended that I should double-check which
    SSID I was connected to.
    Michel Thebeau, Dec 16, 2008
    #6
  7. Hi
    Your OP does not indicate any thing beyond simple statement about your
    Wireless concern.
    Assuming that this is a regular End-User situation I meant to check if
    indeed the computer is connected to the secure SSID and not to some other
    signal that it picks.
    Jack (MS, MVP-Networking)

    "Michel Thebeau" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >> When this happens check if you are connecting to another Wireless source.
    >> Configuring your Wireless source to WPA-AES and the computer's Wireless
    >> as
    >> related to your SSID, does not preclude None Secure connection to other
    >> sources.

    >
    > Thanks Jack,
    >
    > Could you clarify that statement in context if I said that we use peap and
    > ms-chap v2 for authentication? I'm not sure what you meant really. Even
    > with wpa2-psk I would not expect "does not preclude [non-secure]
    > connection
    > to other sources"
    >
    > I'm thinking that you might have intended that I should double-check which
    > SSID I was connected to.
    Jack \(MVP-Networking\)., Dec 16, 2008
    #7
  8. Excellent, thanks Jack. Yup, my original post was pretty general without a
    lot of details. When I replied I wanted to clarify that you didn't mean that
    my computer might successfully connect to the same SSID but from an un-secure
    source. Thanks for clarifying.
    Michel Thebeau, Dec 17, 2008
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  9. Michel Thebeau

    rapster

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    I've been having similar problems. Have a sneeking suspicion that someone has been pilfering my internet download capacity. Blown 20GB download limit within 2 weeks even with free download feature from midnight to 8am. Not likely!!

    Downloaded ZANSZOM network monitoring tool and found 6 other machines on my network. Changed the security password on my router but my laptop can still connect even with the old network password. Also been getting a bubble saying that my network is "unsecured". Laptop is running Xp that is all up to date with patches.

    Just an aside, I'm have been trying to change the wireless network password on the laptop. When I check the WPA2 option I can't update the password. When I use the WPA-PSK I can change the password but when I click OK it reverts back to the old password. The funny thing is that the laptop is still on the network despite having the wrong security password.
    rapster, Nov 21, 2009
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