Wireless issues and SP2

Discussion in 'Wireless Networking' started by =?Utf-8?B?SmdzdGVtcGU=?=, Oct 22, 2004.

  1. Hi,
    I recently downloaded SP 2 for my IBM laptop. I have since had major
    issues connecting to wireless services. I have wireless at home and at
    school and my computer recognizes the signals and says there is a "very good
    / excellent" signal, however when I connect I just get a blank screen. Any
    ideas on how to troubleshoot this? I've disabled and re-enabled the wireless
    multiple times, I"ve tried turning the firewall on and off and frankly I'm
    not sure what else to do. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
    Justin
    =?Utf-8?B?SmdzdGVtcGU=?=, Oct 22, 2004
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  2. Hi,

    I spent considerable time on researching on the post service pack 2
    installation problems. I had a similar problem. Post service pack 2
    installation on windows XP(home edition) I use to get signal strength is
    maximum (very good), but used to get Limited or no network connectivity. I
    researched on Google and come up with the following article, that explains
    about a bug in Service Pack 2.

    Please check the following article. It helped me to solve the problem. I am
    glad to share it with others who will not waste time in microsoft product
    bugs.

    http://users.tpg.com.au/adsl5muj/index.htm

    I am very thankful to this website for having solved my problem. I am sure
    it will solve your problem too.

    Regards
    Deepak Papanna

    "Jgstempe" wrote:

    > Hi,
    > I recently downloaded SP 2 for my IBM laptop. I have since had major
    > issues connecting to wireless services. I have wireless at home and at
    > school and my computer recognizes the signals and says there is a "very good
    > / excellent" signal, however when I connect I just get a blank screen. Any
    > ideas on how to troubleshoot this? I've disabled and re-enabled the wireless
    > multiple times, I"ve tried turning the firewall on and off and frankly I'm
    > not sure what else to do. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
    > Justin
    =?Utf-8?B?QnVnc0FyZUluZXZpdGFibGVJbk1pY3Jvc29mdFBy, Oct 23, 2004
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  3. =?Utf-8?B?SmdzdGVtcGU=?=

    Pavel A. Guest

    Not too many details to help you... what is this blank screen - Internet explorer?
    Do you see the "limited connectivity" message?
    If you know IP address of your AP/router, can you ping it?

    Regards,
    --PA

    "Jgstempe" <> wrote in message news:...
    > Hi,
    > I recently downloaded SP 2 for my IBM laptop. I have since had major
    > issues connecting to wireless services. I have wireless at home and at
    > school and my computer recognizes the signals and says there is a "very good
    > / excellent" signal, however when I connect I just get a blank screen. Any
    > ideas on how to troubleshoot this? I've disabled and re-enabled the wireless
    > multiple times, I"ve tried turning the firewall on and off and frankly I'm
    > not sure what else to do. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
    > Justin
    Pavel A., Oct 23, 2004
    #3
  4. =?Utf-8?B?SmdzdGVtcGU=?=

    Pavel A. Guest

    Ok I've just read this page and haven't see too much of "bug on SP2" there.
    The first part of this article repeats well known advices how to fix
    common networking issues with XP in general and SP2 (the new firewall etc).

    Next, there is a reference to one bug: KB884020 that can affect some software
    that install as a local proxy - but actually, IMHO, can break trojans and
    spyware that often do so too.
    Next one is the VPN ove NAT issue that isn't likely to affect home users -
    most probably not relevant for the OP.

    So, can you remember which advice on that link helped you?
    If it was from the first part - it can't be qualified as "SP2 bug".

    Regards,
    --PA

    "BugsAreInevitableInMicrosoftProducts" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Hi,
    >
    > I spent considerable time on researching on the post service pack 2
    > installation problems. I had a similar problem. Post service pack 2
    > installation on windows XP(home edition) I use to get signal strength is
    > maximum (very good), but used to get Limited or no network connectivity. I
    > researched on Google and come up with the following article, that explains
    > about a bug in Service Pack 2.
    >
    > Please check the following article. It helped me to solve the problem. I am
    > glad to share it with others who will not waste time in microsoft product
    > bugs.
    >
    > http://users.tpg.com.au/adsl5muj/index.htm
    >
    > I am very thankful to this website for having solved my problem. I am sure
    > it will solve your problem too.
    >
    > Regards
    > Deepak Papanna
    >
    > "Jgstempe" wrote:
    >
    > > Hi,
    > > I recently downloaded SP 2 for my IBM laptop. I have since had major
    > > issues connecting to wireless services. I have wireless at home and at
    > > school and my computer recognizes the signals and says there is a "very good
    > > / excellent" signal, however when I connect I just get a blank screen. Any
    > > ideas on how to troubleshoot this? I've disabled and re-enabled the wireless
    > > multiple times, I"ve tried turning the firewall on and off and frankly I'm
    > > not sure what else to do. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
    > > Justin
    Pavel A., Oct 23, 2004
    #4
  5. =?Utf-8?B?SmdzdGVtcGU=?=

    TW Guest

    I read your web site and found the following problems with it.
    1- The site talks about bugs but never REALLY mentions a bug at all.

    2- Cabling, TP and UTP. TP or twisted pair- I think the site confuses this
    with a cross over cable because UTP is unshielded twisted pair. The standard
    for cat5 cables uses several twisted pairs. The twisting within the cable
    reduces crosstalk between the other twisted pairs within the cable.

    3- The site says Zonealarm(free) is the "most common problematic firewall
    program". This statement is simply misinformation and not even close to the
    truth. I have found Zonealarm to be the best firewall product to use, not
    just blocking incoming packets but also OUTGOING packets such as spyware and
    trojans. You just have to know how to add your subnet or range of IPs to the
    trusted zone. Apparently the writer of the site doesn't know how to
    configure a firewall.

    I haven't found ANY bugs with SP2 yet, but again you have to configure a few
    things. These are not bug issues but configuration issues.
    First, turn OFF the windows firewall(ON by default after applying SP2).
    Second, UNCHECK the enable IEEE 802.1x authentication box(CHECKED by default
    after applying SP2).
    Third, update you drivers and or firmware for your wireless card. Best to
    download the latest drivers BEFORE applying SP2, then if the card doesn't
    work AFTER SP2 you can simply reinstall the drivers.


    "BugsAreInevitableInMicrosoftProducts"
    <> wrote in
    message news:...
    > Hi,
    >
    > I spent considerable time on researching on the post service pack 2
    > installation problems. I had a similar problem. Post service pack 2
    > installation on windows XP(home edition) I use to get signal strength is
    > maximum (very good), but used to get Limited or no network connectivity.
    > I
    > researched on Google and come up with the following article, that explains
    > about a bug in Service Pack 2.
    >
    > Please check the following article. It helped me to solve the problem. I
    > am
    > glad to share it with others who will not waste time in microsoft product
    > bugs.
    >
    > http://users.tpg.com.au/adsl5muj/index.htm
    >
    > I am very thankful to this website for having solved my problem. I am
    > sure
    > it will solve your problem too.
    >
    > Regards
    > Deepak Papanna
    >
    > "Jgstempe" wrote:
    >
    >> Hi,
    >> I recently downloaded SP 2 for my IBM laptop. I have since had major
    >> issues connecting to wireless services. I have wireless at home and at
    >> school and my computer recognizes the signals and says there is a "very
    >> good
    >> / excellent" signal, however when I connect I just get a blank screen.
    >> Any
    >> ideas on how to troubleshoot this? I've disabled and re-enabled the
    >> wireless
    >> multiple times, I"ve tried turning the firewall on and off and frankly
    >> I'm
    >> not sure what else to do. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
    >> Thanks.
    >> Justin
    TW, Oct 24, 2004
    #5
  6. On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 14:55:04 -0700, "Jgstempe"
    <> wrote:

    >Hi,
    > I recently downloaded SP 2 for my IBM laptop. I have since had major
    >issues connecting to wireless services. I have wireless at home and at
    >school and my computer recognizes the signals and says there is a "very good
    >/ excellent" signal, however when I connect I just get a blank screen. Any
    >ideas on how to troubleshoot this? I've disabled and re-enabled the wireless
    >multiple times, I"ve tried turning the firewall on and off and frankly I'm
    >not sure what else to do. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
    >Justin


    Not a lot to work with there....

    Is your router set up to assign IP addresses using DCHP? If so, what
    IP address is assigned to your connection.... is it one from the range
    that should be allocated by your DCHP? Or is a completely barmy one
    which has nothing to do with anything.

    If the latter, which it seems like to me, then it sounds like a
    security issue. Are you using encryption? If so, what type? Try
    turning off encryption (only temporarily) and do you now get a "live"
    connection? If so then you are probably not authenticating properly.

    Generally speaking wireless networks will allow you to "connect" even
    if you fail to authenticate properly. However you will quickly find
    the connection is totally useless but Windows does (misleadingly)
    report you are connected.
    Simon Pleasants, Oct 25, 2004
    #6
  7. =?Utf-8?B?SmdzdGVtcGU=?=

    Annette Guest

    I'm so glad I found this message, I too have this problem! I have just
    updated my laptop with SP2. I went through and removed all the
    firewall settings, etc., since I have my own firewall. Now I find that
    I can access the Internet just fine through the LAN at work, but for
    some reason cannot access any web pages using the wireless connection
    at home or at work. It connects to both wireless connections, and
    shows the connections on the task bar, but when I try to access a web
    page I get nothing! (Page not found). I set up my other laptop that I
    have not updated yet and tried to compare the services and I don't
    really see anything strange. Everything ran fine until I updated to
    SP2.

    Simon Pleasants <> wrote in message news:<>...
    > On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 14:55:04 -0700, "Jgstempe"
    > <> wrote:
    >
    > >Hi,
    > > I recently downloaded SP 2 for my IBM laptop. I have since had major
    > >issues connecting to wireless services. I have wireless at home and at
    > >school and my computer recognizes the signals and says there is a "very good
    > >/ excellent" signal, however when I connect I just get a blank screen. Any
    > >ideas on how to troubleshoot this? I've disabled and re-enabled the wireless
    > >multiple times, I"ve tried turning the firewall on and off and frankly I'm
    > >not sure what else to do. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
    > >Justin

    >
    > Not a lot to work with there....
    >
    > Is your router set up to assign IP addresses using DCHP? If so, what
    > IP address is assigned to your connection.... is it one from the range
    > that should be allocated by your DCHP? Or is a completely barmy one
    > which has nothing to do with anything.
    >
    > If the latter, which it seems like to me, then it sounds like a
    > security issue. Are you using encryption? If so, what type? Try
    > turning off encryption (only temporarily) and do you now get a "live"
    > connection? If so then you are probably not authenticating properly.
    >
    > Generally speaking wireless networks will allow you to "connect" even
    > if you fail to authenticate properly. However you will quickly find
    > the connection is totally useless but Windows does (misleadingly)
    > report you are connected.
    Annette, Oct 25, 2004
    #7
  8. Hi,
    I think what you should try is to make sure you dont have another third
    party firewall enabled like norton internet security or another firewwall
    like sygate personal firewall or zonealarm

    Also try to uninstall and reinstall your wireless card - via your install
    disk - another thing you should try is netsh winsock reset and netsh int ip
    reset

    check for functionality after you do this..

    Also another ide aoyu can try is to open windows explorer and try to type in
    a web page to see if it is just an issue with ie.

    Hope this info helps.

    Good luck

    "Jgstempe" wrote:

    > Hi,
    > I recently downloaded SP 2 for my IBM laptop. I have since had major
    > issues connecting to wireless services. I have wireless at home and at
    > school and my computer recognizes the signals and says there is a "very good
    > / excellent" signal, however when I connect I just get a blank screen. Any
    > ideas on how to troubleshoot this? I've disabled and re-enabled the wireless
    > multiple times, I"ve tried turning the firewall on and off and frankly I'm
    > not sure what else to do. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
    > Justin
    =?Utf-8?B?dGVycnk=?=, Oct 25, 2004
    #8
  9. On 25 Oct 2004 15:22:44 -0700, (Annette) wrote:

    >I'm so glad I found this message, I too have this problem! I have just
    >updated my laptop with SP2. I went through and removed all the
    >firewall settings, etc., since I have my own firewall. Now I find that
    >I can access the Internet just fine through the LAN at work, but for
    >some reason cannot access any web pages using the wireless connection
    >at home or at work. It connects to both wireless connections, and
    >shows the connections on the task bar, but when I try to access a web
    >page I get nothing! (Page not found). I set up my other laptop that I
    >have not updated yet and tried to compare the services and I don't
    >really see anything strange. Everything ran fine until I updated to
    >SP2.


    Have you tried any of the things I suggested? If so, what were the
    results?
    Simon Pleasants, Oct 26, 2004
    #9
  10. =?Utf-8?B?SmdzdGVtcGU=?=

    Annette Guest

    "terry" <> wrote in message news:<>...
    > Hi,
    > I think what you should try is to make sure you dont have another third
    > party firewall enabled like norton internet security or another firewwall
    > like sygate personal firewall or zonealarm
    >
    > Also try to uninstall and reinstall your wireless card - via your install
    > disk - another thing you should try is netsh winsock reset and netsh int ip
    > reset
    >
    > check for functionality after you do this..
    >
    > Also another ide aoyu can try is to open windows explorer and try to type in
    > a web page to see if it is just an issue with ie.
    >
    > Hope this info helps.
    >
    > Good luck
    >
    > "Jgstempe" wrote:
    >
    > > Hi,
    > > I recently downloaded SP 2 for my IBM laptop. I have since had major
    > > issues connecting to wireless services. I have wireless at home and at
    > > school and my computer recognizes the signals and says there is a "very good
    > > / excellent" signal, however when I connect I just get a blank screen. Any
    > > ideas on how to troubleshoot this? I've disabled and re-enabled the wireless
    > > multiple times, I"ve tried turning the firewall on and off and frankly I'm
    > > not sure what else to do. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
    > > Justin


    I just had the exact same problem with my IBM Thinkpad (see previous
    post). I just got mine working by downloading the latest version of
    IBM Access Connections and the latest driver for the internal wireless
    adapter. It works great now. Check their website and see if it works
    for you.
    Annette, Oct 27, 2004
    #10
  11. =?Utf-8?B?SmdzdGVtcGU=?=

    hans Guest

    >>I have wireless at home and at school
    >>and my computer recognizes the signals
    >>and says there is a "very good / excellent" signal,
    >>however when I connect I just get a blank screen.


    this message means that your pc does not get an IP address
    from the school or at home DHCP server.

    what is confusing is additionnally that MS generates a
    169.254.x.x. value, which is an ICS bug I think.
    This should be a 0.0.0.0 or so.

    Why no connection?
    The strong signal / green lights means it works at layer 1
    = well transmitting and receiving but not more than that.
    It's like receiving letters, envelopes, blank on the
    outside. so who is to open them?

    It is like listening to a nice speech in chinese.
    Loud and clear, but no idea what they say.

    There is a REPAIR option on the right hand mouse button
    you can try it, often it does not work.
    It tries to renew the connection IP address route.
    Restart Windows helped for me.

    A second reason;
    you have not entered an key, in this case it is simply an
    entrance problem. In this case repeat several times
    disconnect/connect on the menu "Make a new connection".
    that worked here.

    Never forget: this is Microsoftware, the options do not mean
    what you think they mean. Sometimes do the illogical will
    help :)

    It has nothing to do with firewall issues.

    have fun

    hans
    hans, Nov 11, 2004
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