WinXP Home SP2 logs in then right away logs off

Discussion in 'Computer Support' started by Andrew, Oct 17, 2004.

  1. Andrew

    Andrew Guest

    I've got a WinXP Home SP2 machine that first refused to logon on any
    account, after using EBCD password recovery cd, I was able to get to get
    login prompt to work, however, it starts to logon, then it logs off, i see
    the wallpaper, but no icons or anything that far. Any ideas?

    Any ideas?
    Andrew, Oct 17, 2004
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  2. I know this sounds bad but get XP Professional w/SP 2. WinXP Home Edition
    sucks...
    "Andrew" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > I've got a WinXP Home SP2 machine that first refused to logon on any
    > account, after using EBCD password recovery cd, I was able to get to get
    > login prompt to work, however, it starts to logon, then it logs off, i see
    > the wallpaper, but no icons or anything that far. Any ideas?
    >
    > Any ideas?
    anDreaD ownes, Oct 17, 2004
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  3. Andrew

    Duane Arnold Guest

    (Andrew) wrote in
    news::

    > I've got a WinXP Home SP2 machine that first refused to logon on any
    > account, after using EBCD password recovery cd, I was able to get to
    > get login prompt to work, however, it starts to logon, then it logs
    > off, i see the wallpaper, but no icons or anything that far. Any
    > ideas?
    >
    > Any ideas?
    >


    You can always put in the XP install CD and boot off the cd and take the
    *Repair* path and install the entire O/S over itself and lay it back down
    on the machine. That will install the O/S intact and should leave all the
    other programs and applications installed on the machine as is and
    everything will still work as before. You'll need to apply the SP2 again as
    it will be gone.

    Hopefully, that will get you out of your problem.

    Duane :)
    Duane Arnold, Oct 17, 2004
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  4. Andrew

    Jim Berwick Guest

    "anDreaD ownes" <> wrote in news:_pocd.1703$OD2.248
    @bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:

    > I know this sounds bad but get XP Professional w/SP 2. WinXP Home Edition
    > sucks...
    >


    You have no idea what you are talking about. XP Home and Pro have
    identical internals, the only major difference in the advanced networking
    options in Pro (such as joining a domain).
    Jim Berwick, Oct 17, 2004
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  5. Andrew

    Andrew Guest

    The repair path? That just brings up a prompt.... I've traditionally used
    the install over feature, however, this install disk wants me to reformat
    the drive, not install over.


    "Duane Arnold" <> wrote in message
    news:Xns958510A28A164notmenotmecom@216.148.227.77...
    > (Andrew) wrote in
    > news::
    >
    >> I've got a WinXP Home SP2 machine that first refused to logon on any
    >> account, after using EBCD password recovery cd, I was able to get to
    >> get login prompt to work, however, it starts to logon, then it logs
    >> off, i see the wallpaper, but no icons or anything that far. Any
    >> ideas?
    >>
    >> Any ideas?
    >>

    >
    > You can always put in the XP install CD and boot off the cd and take the
    > *Repair* path and install the entire O/S over itself and lay it back down
    > on the machine. That will install the O/S intact and should leave all the
    > other programs and applications installed on the machine as is and
    > everything will still work as before. You'll need to apply the SP2 again
    > as
    > it will be gone.
    >
    > Hopefully, that will get you out of your problem.
    >
    > Duane :)
    Andrew, Oct 17, 2004
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  6. Andrew

    Duane Arnold Guest

    "Andrew" <> wrote in news:tLocd.29563$qU.26868@clgrps13:

    > The repair path? That just brings up a prompt.... I've traditionally
    > used the install over feature, however, this install disk wants me to
    > reformat the drive, not install over.
    >


    I use XP Pro but I'll say any install CD I have ever used for installing
    the MS O/S like Win NT, 2K and XP Pro or Home has the option to not format
    the HD before installing the O/S.

    Maybe, the link will help you.

    http://tinyurl.com/1h3r

    Duane :)
    Duane Arnold, Oct 17, 2004
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  7. Andrew

    Jim Berwick Guest

    Duane Arnold <> wrote in
    news:Xns958516327E96Enotmenotmecom@216.148.227.77:

    > I use XP Pro but I'll say any install CD I have ever used for
    > installing the MS O/S like Win NT, 2K and XP Pro or Home has the
    > option to not format the HD before installing the O/S.


    To get the effect of repairing an install without wiping data, choose to
    install the OS (98, 2000, XP, whatever) like a new install but pick the old
    folder to install to. This will effectively do a "repair install".
    Jim Berwick, Oct 17, 2004
    #7
  8. if you start to run setup you will be asked if you wish to repair an
    existing installsation using the repair console
    answer no to this option and continue to setup
    you go past the option where you press f8 to accept the conditiuons then you
    are given the option to press r to repair
    this overwrites all the system files without losing any data or drivers etc
    hope this helps


    "Jim Berwick" <> wrote in message
    news:Xns958526FB729C9jimbsnipnet@207.103.26.26...
    > Duane Arnold <> wrote in
    > news:Xns958516327E96Enotmenotmecom@216.148.227.77:
    >
    >> I use XP Pro but I'll say any install CD I have ever used for
    >> installing the MS O/S like Win NT, 2K and XP Pro or Home has the
    >> option to not format the HD before installing the O/S.

    >
    > To get the effect of repairing an install without wiping data, choose to
    > install the OS (98, 2000, XP, whatever) like a new install but pick the
    > old
    > folder to install to. This will effectively do a "repair install".
    seymour butts, Oct 17, 2004
    #8
  9. Andrew wrote:

    > I've got a WinXP Home SP2 machine that first refused to logon on any
    > account, after using EBCD password recovery cd, I was able to get to get
    > login prompt to work, however, it starts to logon, then it logs off, i see
    > the wallpaper, but no icons or anything that far. Any ideas?
    >

    Suppose you "inheritated" the machine without a usable install cd (maybe
    just a recovery which will wipe the windows partition). Does the EBCD cd
    allow for offline editing other parts of the registry also?
    I would look for the "absolute path for winlogon/userinit" issue on google
    then. Has the harddrive signature and therefore drive letter changed?

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    Walter Mautner, Oct 17, 2004
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    Toolman Tim Guest

    >|I know this sounds bad but get XP Professional w/SP 2. WinXP Home
    >| Edition sucks...


    The only that sucks is your advice. I use both...and other than connecting
    to a domain at work, I find no difference. Okay, I know that "technically"
    there are others, such as dual processor support, etc., but WGAF? The CORE
    is the same, the way it works is the same. If it walks like a duck, and it
    quacks like a duck...

    >| "Andrew" <> wrote in message
    >| news:...
    >| > I've got a WinXP Home SP2 machine that first refused to logon on
    >| > any account, after using EBCD password recovery cd, I was able to
    >| > get to get login prompt to work, however, it starts to logon, then
    >| > it logs off, i see the wallpaper, but no icons or anything that
    >| > far. Any ideas?
    >| >
    >| > Any ideas?




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    THEY went." ~Will Rogers~
    Toolman Tim, Oct 17, 2004
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  11. Toolman Tim wrote:

    >>|I know this sounds bad but get XP Professional w/SP 2. WinXP Home
    >>| Edition sucks...

    >
    > The only that sucks is your advice. I use both...and other than connecting
    > to a domain at work, I find no difference. Okay, I know that "technically"
    > there are others, such as dual processor support, etc., but WGAF? The CORE
    > is the same, the way it works is the same. If it walks like a duck, and it
    > quacks like a duck...
    >

    There's something more that sucks in XP home: you cannot logon as
    Administrator but in safe mode, also you cannot fine-tune permissions and
    there's a hard time to set up a "power" or restricted user. Oh yes, group
    policy editor is missing also.

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    Walter Mautner, Oct 17, 2004
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  12. Andrew

    Toolman Tim Guest

    >| Toolman Tim wrote:
    >|
    >| >>|I know this sounds bad but get XP Professional w/SP 2. WinXP Home
    >| >>| Edition sucks...
    >| >
    >| > The only that sucks is your advice. I use both...and other than
    >| > connecting to a domain at work, I find no difference. Okay, I know
    >| > that "technically" there are others, such as dual processor
    >| > support, etc., but WGAF? The CORE is the same, the way it works is
    >| > the same. If it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck...
    >| >
    >| There's something more that sucks in XP home: you cannot logon as
    >| Administrator but in safe mode, also you cannot fine-tune
    >| permissions and there's a hard time to set up a "power" or
    >| restricted user. Oh yes, group policy editor is missing also.
    >|


    Ummm...and why would that bother most home users? Again, that's a
    network/office use type of issue, and seldom affects anyone using a personal
    PC at home.

    --
    "If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die, I want to go where
    THEY went." ~Will Rogers~
    Toolman Tim, Oct 17, 2004
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  13. Andrew

    Toolman Tim Guest

    I might suggest running SFC /SCANNOW from the cmd prompt in safe mode.
    (System File
    Checker - replaces damaged files with the originals. Have that setup CD
    ready.)

    >| The repair path? That just brings up a prompt.... I've traditionally
    >| used the install over feature, however, this install disk wants me
    >| to reformat the drive, not install over.
    >|
    >|
    >| "Duane Arnold" <> wrote in message
    >| news:Xns958510A28A164notmenotmecom@216.148.227.77...
    >| > (Andrew) wrote in
    >| > news::
    >| >
    >| >> I've got a WinXP Home SP2 machine that first refused to logon on
    >| >> any account, after using EBCD password recovery cd, I was able to
    >| >> get to get login prompt to work, however, it starts to logon,
    >| >> then it logs off, i see the wallpaper, but no icons or anything
    >| >> that far. Any ideas?
    >| >>
    >| >> Any ideas?
    >| >>
    >| >
    >| > You can always put in the XP install CD and boot off the cd and
    >| > take the *Repair* path and install the entire O/S over itself and
    >| > lay it back down on the machine. That will install the O/S intact
    >| > and should leave all the other programs and applications installed
    >| > on the machine as is and everything will still work as before.
    >| > You'll need to apply the SP2 again as
    >| > it will be gone.
    >| >
    >| > Hopefully, that will get you out of your problem.
    >| >
    >| > Duane :)




    --
    "If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die, I want to go where
    THEY went." ~Will Rogers~
    Toolman Tim, Oct 17, 2004
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  14. Toolman Tim wrote:

    ......
    >>| There's something more that sucks in XP home: you cannot logon as
    >>| Administrator but in safe mode, also you cannot fine-tune
    >>| permissions and there's a hard time to set up a "power" or
    >>| restricted user. Oh yes, group policy editor is missing also.
    >>|

    There is something wrong with your quoting, it looks like an additional
    poster in between, otherwise the attribution lines are gone. Somehow
    irritating.
    >
    > Ummm...and why would that bother most home users? Again, that's a
    > network/office use type of issue, and seldom affects anyone using a
    > personal PC at home.
    >

    Well, true, but unfortunately. Giving internet worms and viruses such a
    great chance to spread, eventually taking down whole ISP networks. The real
    dilemma (why not even Microsoft bothers to educate users to _not_ run
    internet surfing/downloading/chatting as admin) lies in the missing
    priviledge separation. It's not completely Microsofts fault that programs
    store preferences inside program directories or even the main windows
    directory, or in the (goddammed) registry hive HKLM. But due to DOS/win9x
    inheritage and legacy demands Microsoft never bothered to implement such a
    model, maybe because they would have to redesign the whole OS line and
    render a lot of third-party programs useless. Therefore it's a great deal
    to make commonly used (even not---too-outdated Microsoft) programs work as
    non-admin user, which is only affordable in a corporate/business
    environment to protect the Innocent (TM).
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    Walter Mautner, Oct 18, 2004
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  15. Andrew

    Duane Arnold Guest

    Walter Mautner <> wrote in
    news:-berlin.de:

    > Toolman Tim wrote:
    >
    > .....
    >>>| There's something more that sucks in XP home: you cannot logon as
    >>>| Administrator but in safe mode, also you cannot fine-tune
    >>>| permissions and there's a hard time to set up a "power" or
    >>>| restricted user. Oh yes, group policy editor is missing also.
    >>>|

    > There is something wrong with your quoting, it looks like an
    > additional poster in between, otherwise the attribution lines are
    > gone. Somehow irritating.
    >>
    >> Ummm...and why would that bother most home users? Again, that's a
    >> network/office use type of issue, and seldom affects anyone using a
    >> personal PC at home.
    >>


    > It's not completely Microsofts fault
    > that programs store preferences inside program directories or even the
    > main windows directory, or in the (goddammed) registry hive HKLM.


    That doesn't happen with .Net solutions using the .Netframework and MS
    has made the effort to move away from the registry as .Net solutions do
    not use the registry. The past is the past and there is nothing that can
    change what has happening with old technology such as Win ME and 9'x O/S
    (s).

    Duane :)
    Duane Arnold, Oct 18, 2004
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  16. Andrew

    Gus Webb Guest

    Who gives a **** if you're irritated, you fucking faggot ****?

    "Walter Mautner" <> wrote in
    message news:-berlin.de

    > Somehow irritating.
    Gus Webb, Oct 19, 2004
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