windows updates--how to tell which you need?

Discussion in 'Computer Support' started by Viewasku1977, Nov 12, 2003.

  1. Viewasku1977

    Viewasku1977 Guest

    While trying to find new drivers for my monitor (EMC Proview SA-768), I
    re-registered to driver guide and found there were several possible windows
    updates I could download for my Win 98SE system. Some of these updates look
    quite old. Which ones of these would be crucial, which would be optional, and
    which are just plain a bad idea (ie older version is better or the one listed
    is out of date?)? Thanks very much in advance for the help. The updates are as
    follows:

    Microsoft Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1 (Windows 98, Windows Me)*
    Download size: 452 KB
    Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1 (SP1) is the most recent version of the
    Internet Explorer 6 core technologies in Windows® XP Home Edition and Windows
    XP Professional. Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1 helps provide a private,
    reliable, and flexible browsing experience and the freedom to experience the
    best of the Internet for users of Windows XP, Windows Millennium Edition
    (Windows Me), Windows 2000, Windows 98, and Windows NT® 4.0 Service Pack 6a.
    Total download size for a typical installation is approximately 25 megabytes
    (MB). However, because setup downloads only those files that are necessary for
    your computer, this size can vary between 11 and 75 MB.

    Direct X 9.0b End-User Runtime
    Download size: 293 KB
    DirectX 9.0b includes security and performance updates. Download now to get the
    latest DirectX updates. After you install this item, you may have to restart
    your computer. Once you have installed this item, it cannot be removed.

    323559: Security Update for Microsoft Windows
    Download size: 305 KB
    An identified security issue in Microsoft Windows could allow an attacker to
    compromise a Microsoft Windows-based system and then take a variety of actions.
    For example, an attacker could execute code on the system. By installing this
    update, you can help protect your computer. After you install this item, you
    may have to restart your computer

    816093: Security Update Microsoft Virtual Machine (Microsoft VM)
    Download size: 5.1 MB
    This update helps resolve a vulnerability in the Microsoft virtual machine.
    After you install this item, you may have to restart your computer. Once you
    have installed this item, it cannot be removed.

    814078: Security Update (Microsoft Jscript version 5.6, Windows 98, Windows
    Millennium Edition, Windows NT 4.0)
    Download size: 361 KB
    A security issue has been identified that could allow an attacker to run
    programs on a computer running Microsoft® Windows®. The attacker would first
    have to send you an e-mail message or entice you into visiting a malicious Web
    site. You can help protect your computer by installing this update from
    Microsoft. After you install this item, you may have to restart your computer.
    Once you have installed this item, it cannot be removed.

    Q329414: Security Update (MDAC 2.5)
    Download size: 814 KB
    This security update applies to a component of Windows known as the Microsoft
    Data Access Component (MDAC). Please install now to help protect your
    Windows-based computer. For more information, read the associated Microsoft
    Security Bulletin at http://www.microsoft.com/security.

    Q329115: Security Update (Windows 98)
    Download size: 407 KB
    This update resolves the "Certificate Validation Flaw Could Enable Identity
    Spoofing" vulnerability in Windows 98. Download now to help prevent an attacker
    from attempting identity spoofing using certificates

    Windows Share Level Password Update
    Download size: 210 KB
    This update resolves the "Windows Share Level Password" vulnerability in
    Windows 98 and Windows 98 Second Edition. If a computer that is linked to a
    network has File and Print Sharing enabled, and has at least one
    password-protected folder shared, it may be possible for a user on the network
    to gain unauthorized access to the folder. This vulnerability exists because of
    the way the password feature of share level access is implemented for computers
    running Windows 98. A malicious user can exploit this vulnerability and use a
    special client utility to gain access to a share without knowing the entire
    password, and may be able to retrieve, modify, or delete any file within that
    share. Download now to prevent unauthorized access to files that are shared
    over a network that uses share level security.

    Q323172: Security Update (Windows 98)
    Download size: 214 KB
    This update resolves the "Flaw in Digital Certificate Enrollment Component
    Allows Certificate Deletion" security vulnerability in Windows 98. Download now
    to help stop a Web site or HTML e-mail from deleting digital certificates on
    your computer and preventing you from using the services they are associated
    with

    Q323255: Security Update (Windows 98)
    Download size: 496 KB
    This update resolves the "Unchecked buffer in HTML Help can lead to Code
    Execution" security vulnerability in Windows 98. Download now to help prevent a
    malicious user from running an unauthorized program on your computer.

    Security Update, May 19, 2000
    Download size: 193 KB
    This update resolves the "IP Fragment Reassembly" security vulnerability in
    Windows 98 and Windows 98 Second Edition (SE), and is discussed in Microsoft
    Security Bulletin MS00-029.

    Q320920: Security Update (Windows Media Player 6.4)
    Download size: 935 KB
    This update, the "26 June 2002 Cumulative Patch for Windows Media Player,"
    resolves several vulnerabilities in Windows Media Player 6.4. Download now to
    help prevent a malicious user from running code of his or her choice on your
    computer. This item has been updated since it was released in June, 2002.
    Microsoft recommends that you install this item, even if you installed it when
    it was first released.

    Security Update, November 12, 1999
    Download size: 169 KB
    This update eliminates the "File Access URL" vulnerability in Windows 98, and
    is discussed in Microsoft Security Bulletin MS99-049. Download now to help
    prevent a malicious user or Web site operator from exploiting the vulnerability
    to run arbitrary code or cause your computer to crash.

    Security Update, February 14, 2002 (Internet Explorer 6)
    Download size: 308 KB
    This is an updated version of Security Update, February 14, 2002. This update
    resolves the "Incorrect VBScript Handling can Allow Web Pages to Read Local
    Files" security vulnerability in Internet Explorer 6 and Windows Millennium
    Edition (Windows Me) , Windows 98, or Windows NT® 4.0, and is discussed in
    Microsoft Security Bulletin MS02-009. Download now to prevent a malicious user
    from using an unauthorized Web site to read the contents of files on your local
    computer.

    Security Update, March 7, 2002
    Download size: 834 KB
    This update resolves the "Unchecked Buffer in Windows Shell Could Lead to Code
    Execution" security vulnerability in Windows 98 and is discussed in Microsoft
    Security Bulletin MS02-014. Download now to help prevent a malicious user from
    running programs on your computer.

    Security Update, February 13, 2002 (MSXML 3.0)
    Download size: 551 KB
    This update resolves the "XMLHTTP Control Can Allow Access to Local Files"
    security vulnerability in Microsoft XML (MSXML) 3.0 and is discussed in
    Microsoft Security Bulletin MS02-008. Download now to help prevent a malicious
    user from reading the files on your computer when you visit a specially
    malformed Web site.

    Security Update, November 20, 2001
    Download size: 789 KB
    This update resolves the "Windows Media Player .asf processor contains
    unchecked buffer" security vulnerability in Windows Media Player, Windows
    Millennium Edition (Windows Me), and Windows 2000, and is discussed in
    Microsoft Security Bulletin MS01-056. Download now to prevent a malicious user
    from running code of his or her choice on your computer.

    Security Update, March 17, 2000
    Download size: 222 KB
    This update eliminates the "DOS Device in Path Name" security vulnerability
    found in Windows 98 and Windows 98 Second Edition, and is discussed in
    Microsoft Security Bulletin MS00-017. Download now to help prevent a malicious
    user from causing your computer to crash by accessing a file or folder with a
    path that contains certain reserved words.

    Security Update 1, November 29, 1999
    Download size: 197 KB
    This update eliminates the "Spoofed Route Pointer" and "Fragmented IGMP Packet"
    vulnerabilities in Microsoft Windows 98. Download now to help prevent a
    malicious user from using source routing to obtain network information through
    your Windows 98 computer, and to protect your computer's performance when it
    encounters fragmented data packets

    811630: Critical Update (Windows 98)
    Download size: 499 KB
    This update enables applications to access HTML Help in a new, restricted mode.
    Future updates of Internet Explorer require this new capability. Download now
    to ensure that Internet Explorer can properly display HTML Help in HTML pages.

    Again, thanks!
     
    Viewasku1977, Nov 12, 2003
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  2. Viewasku1977

    °Mike° Guest

    Why are you checking for Windows updates from DriverGuide?

    Go to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ and install
    *all* of the critical updates.


    On 12 Nov 2003 21:57:28 GMT, in
    <>
    Viewasku1977 scrawled:

    >While trying to find new drivers for my monitor (EMC Proview SA-768), I
    >re-registered to driver guide and found there were several possible windows
    >updates I could download for my Win 98SE system. Some of these updates look
    >quite old. Which ones of these would be crucial, which would be optional, and
    >which are just plain a bad idea (ie older version is better or the one listed
    >is out of date?)? Thanks very much in advance for the help. The updates are as
    >follows:


    <massive snip>

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    °Mike°, Nov 12, 2003
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    trout Guest

    Viewasku1977 wrote:

    > While trying to find new drivers for my monitor (EMC Proview SA-768),
    > I re-registered to driver guide and found there were several possible
    > windows updates I could download for my Win 98SE system. Some of
    > these updates look quite old. Which ones of these would be crucial,
    > which would be optional, and which are just plain a bad idea (ie
    > older version is better or the one listed is out of date?)? Thanks
    > very much in advance for the help. The updates are as follows:


    Why not just go to Windows Update, and have it scan your computer,
    and see what they call a "Critical Update"?
    I'd *definitely* recommend getting SP1; and installing *all*
    security updates.
    --
    "With the possible exception of those for WMP, if you don't use it, or
    use an older version."
     
    trout, Nov 12, 2003
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  4. Viewasku1977

    Viewasku1977 Guest

    >Why are you checking for Windows updates from DriverGuide?
    >
    >Go to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ and install
    >*all* of the critical updates.
    >
    >Ok, I know you said, *all* but can you elaborate on that? Would everything I

    listed in the first post be considered a *critical update*? Or just the ones
    that specifically say "critical update"? Most say "security update" and then
    there's the "direct x". Just wondering if I should just hit install for every
    single one of them or if you're talking about only the *critical update*
    listings?
    >
     
    Viewasku1977, Nov 12, 2003
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  5. Viewasku1977

    °Mike° Guest

    On 12 Nov 2003 22:27:03 GMT, in
    <>
    Viewasku1977 scrawled:

    >>Why are you checking for Windows updates from DriverGuide?
    >>
    >>Go to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ and install
    >>*all* of the critical updates.
    >>
    >>Ok, I know you said, *all* but can you elaborate on that? Would everything I

    >listed in the first post be considered a *critical update*? Or just the ones
    >that specifically say "critical update"? Most say "security update" and then
    >there's the "direct x". Just wondering if I should just hit install for every
    >single one of them or if you're talking about only the *critical update*
    >listings?


    Read my reply again.

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    °Mike°, Nov 12, 2003
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    Viewasku1977 Guest

    >Why not just go to Windows Update, and have it scan your computer,
    >and see what they call a "Critical Update"?
    > I'd *definitely* recommend getting SP1; and installing *all*
    >security updates.
    >--
    >"With the possible exception of those for WMP, if you don't use it, or
    >use an older version."
    >
    >Thanks, I'm there now. To answer the other question, I was reminded to check

    for updates when I was looking for my monitor driver and there's a link from
    DriverGuide, so that's how I ended up at MS Update.

    As for scanning my computer, I think I just did it to get all those updates to
    pop up right? But nothing popped up defining what's 'critical' or not. I
    guess I'll just install them all. Wouldn't some be way out of date by now
    though? Check my first post. There's stuff on that list from 1999! I'd hope
    there was a more recent version on this computer already!
    >
    >
     
    Viewasku1977, Nov 12, 2003
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  7. Viewasku1977

    Viewasku1977 Guest

    >Why are you checking for Windows updates from DriverGuide?

    Answer in previous post. I found the link at DriverGuide.
     
    Viewasku1977, Nov 12, 2003
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    slumpy Guest

    With a rumble and a belch Viewasku1977 decided to put the World to rights
    with this little speech from the heart...

    >> Why are you checking for Windows updates from DriverGuide?
    >>
    >> Go to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ and install
    >> *all* of the critical updates.
    >>
    >> Ok, I know you said, *all* but can you elaborate on that? Would
    >> everything I

    > listed in the first post be considered a *critical update*? Or just
    > the ones that specifically say "critical update"? Most say "security
    > update" and then there's the "direct x". Just wondering if I should
    > just hit install for every single one of them or if you're talking
    > about only the *critical update* listings?


    I would hazard a guess, but don't quote me on it, OK ?

    Now I would say, nay, *guess*, that the critical updates (are you with me so
    far ?) are the ones that come under the heading of *"CRITICAL"*, while the
    others (probably not quite as critical as the critical ones, or they'd be
    called critical ones too) don't, so it can be assumed that if you were to
    read the explanations for each of the non-critically-marked ones then all
    would become clear.

    Now did that make sense ?
    --
    slumpy
    no more
    no less
    just slumpy
     
    slumpy, Nov 12, 2003
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  9. Viewasku1977

    Viewasku1977 Guest

    >Now did that make sense ?

    More or less. ;-)
     
    Viewasku1977, Nov 12, 2003
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    °Mike° Guest

    On 12 Nov 2003 22:40:40 GMT, in
    <>
    Viewasku1977 scrawled:

    >>Why are you checking for Windows updates from DriverGuide?

    >
    >Answer in previous post. I found the link at DriverGuide.


    You should get into the habit of going to windowsupdate
    *directly* and regularly.

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    °Mike°, Nov 12, 2003
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    Viewasku1977 Guest

    >
    >You should get into the habit of going to windowsupdate
    >*directly* and regularly.
    >


    I've got it bookmarked now. Thanks for the help. Btw, on average, how often
    should you update? Or is it announced here?
     
    Viewasku1977, Nov 12, 2003
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    trout Guest

    Viewasku1977 wrote:

    >> Why not just go to Windows Update, and have it scan your computer,
    >> and see what they call a "Critical Update"?
    >> I'd *definitely* recommend getting SP1; and installing *all*
    >> security updates.
    >> --
    >> "With the possible exception of those for WMP, if you don't use it,
    >> or
    >> use an older version."
    >>
    >> Thanks, I'm there now. To answer the other question, I was reminded
    >> to check

    > for updates when I was looking for my monitor driver and there's a
    > link from DriverGuide, so that's how I ended up at MS Update.
    >
    > As for scanning my computer, I think I just did it to get all those
    > updates to pop up right? But nothing popped up defining what's
    > 'critical' or not. I guess I'll just install them all. Wouldn't
    > some be way out of date by now though? Check my first post. There's
    > stuff on that list from 1999! I'd hope there was a more recent
    > version on this computer already!


    It should be clearly displayed; whether or not an update is
    'Critical' or 'Recommended' or just available. I would assume that *all*
    Security updates would be considered to be "Critical".
    I imagine some *will* be quite old. Sounds like its been a while
    since you were there. But that is the purpose of the scan. To see what
    *your* computer needs. And there's always the built-in function of
    Windows, that will prompt you, and ask if you want to over-write a newer
    file with an older version. But I don't see that happening.
    By the way; I also run Win98SE, and have installed all the Service
    Packs, Critical Updates, and Security Updates, with no ill effect.
    I usually install most of the recommended updates as well; with the
    exceptions of WMP and Auto-update.
    --
    "I don't want it 'phoning home'."
     
    trout, Nov 12, 2003
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  13. Viewasku1977

    °Mike° Guest

    On 12 Nov 2003 22:54:49 GMT, in
    <>
    Viewasku1977 scrawled:

    >>
    >>You should get into the habit of going to windowsupdate
    >>*directly* and regularly.
    >>

    >
    >I've got it bookmarked now. Thanks for the help. Btw, on average,
    >how often should you update? Or is it announced here?


    You cannot rely on updates being announced here, although
    they *sometimes* are. I would say visit windowsupdate
    once every week or two. Maybe put it in your task scheduler.

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    °Mike°, Nov 12, 2003
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  14. Viewasku1977

    Voodoo Guest

    On 12 Nov 2003 21:57:28 GMT, ojuno (Viewasku1977)
    wrote:

    >While trying to find new drivers for my monitor (EMC Proview SA-768), I
    >re-registered to driver guide and found there were several possible windows
    >updates I could download for my Win 98SE system. Some of these updates look
    >quite old. Which ones of these would be crucial, which would be optional, and
    >which are just plain a bad idea (ie older version is better or the one listed
    >is out of date?)?


    I want to disagree slightly with some of the other posters. I would
    look at all of the critical updates, and then decide if I need all of
    them or not.

    For instance, I noticed that you are posting from AOL. If that means
    that you use their proprietary email client and you don't ever use
    Outlook Express, then I wouldn't see the point in installing any
    Outlook Express specific updates.
     
    Voodoo, Nov 12, 2003
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    °Mike° Guest

    On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 15:28:03 -0800, in
    <>
    Voodoo scrawled:

    >On 12 Nov 2003 21:57:28 GMT, ojuno (Viewasku1977)
    >wrote:
    >
    >>While trying to find new drivers for my monitor (EMC Proview SA-768), I
    >>re-registered to driver guide and found there were several possible windows
    >>updates I could download for my Win 98SE system. Some of these updates look
    >>quite old. Which ones of these would be crucial, which would be optional, and
    >>which are just plain a bad idea (ie older version is better or the one listed
    >>is out of date?)?

    >
    >I want to disagree slightly with some of the other posters. I would
    >look at all of the critical updates, and then decide if I need all of
    >them or not.
    >
    >For instance, I noticed that you are posting from AOL. If that means
    >that you use their proprietary email client and you don't ever use
    >Outlook Express, then I wouldn't see the point in installing any
    >Outlook Express specific updates.


    Then you don't understand how all of MS software is
    very tightly interwoven into the operating system.
    If the poster is using Windows, then critical updates
    should be installed... period.

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    °Mike°, Nov 12, 2003
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  16. Viewasku1977

    Boomer Guest

    Voodoo <> wrote in
    news::

    > On 12 Nov 2003 21:57:28 GMT, ojuno
    > (Viewasku1977) wrote:
    >
    >>While trying to find new drivers for my monitor (EMC Proview
    >>SA-768), I re-registered to driver guide and found there were
    >>several possible windows updates I could download for my Win 98SE
    >>system. Some of these updates look quite old. Which ones of
    >>these would be crucial, which would be optional, and which are
    >>just plain a bad idea (ie older version is better or the one
    >>listed is out of date?)?

    >
    > I want to disagree slightly with some of the other posters. I
    > would look at all of the critical updates, and then decide if I
    > need all of them or not.
    >
    > For instance, I noticed that you are posting from AOL. If that
    > means that you use their proprietary email client and you don't
    > ever use Outlook Express, then I wouldn't see the point in
    > installing any Outlook Express specific updates.


    Maybe next week he/she moves to a real ISP and starts using IE/OE?

    I'd snag the ones needed since MS will stop supporting Win 98 shortly.
     
    Boomer, Nov 12, 2003
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    Viewasku1977 Guest

    >I'd snag the ones needed since MS will stop supporting Win 98 shortly.

    I wasn't aware of that. Does this mean that there will be no updates of Win 98
    soon period? I wouldnt expect MS support to support tech issues, but no
    updates will pretty much be the final curtain for Win 98 won't it?
     
    Viewasku1977, Nov 12, 2003
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  18. Viewasku1977

    Viewasku1977 Guest


    >y the way; I also run Win98SE, and have installed all the Service
    >Packs, Critical Updates, and Security Updates, with no ill effect.
    > I usually install most of the recommended updates as well; with the
    >exceptions of WMP and Auto-update.
    >--
    >"I don't want it 'phoning home'."
    >
    >
    >thanks for the help! I'm updating right now, but the Windows Update screen

    seems to have frozen right after completing the download and before the
    install. Is that normal? It's been stuck for over 5 minutes though so I'd
    doubt it.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
     
    Viewasku1977, Nov 13, 2003
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  19. Viewasku1977

    Brian H¹© Guest

    Viewasku1977 said:

    >> I'd snag the ones needed since MS will stop supporting Win 98 shortly.

    >
    > I wasn't aware of that. Does this mean that there will be no updates of Win


    That's what "MS will stop supporting Win 98 shortly" means.

    > 98 soon period? I wouldnt expect MS support to support tech issues, but no
    > updates will pretty much be the final curtain for Win 98 won't it?
     
    Brian H¹©, Nov 13, 2003
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    Viewasku1977 Guest

    >hat's what "MS will stop supporting Win 98 shortly" means.
    >


    It could have meant "MS would stop providing technical assistance to Win 98
    customers." Not that they were any use at that to begin with...
     
    Viewasku1977, Nov 13, 2003
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