windows updates from hell

Discussion in 'Computer Support' started by Montenegro, Jan 9, 2006.

  1. Montenegro

    Montenegro Guest

    I have an XP, AMD Athlon...

    I haven't download the upgrades for a while. Las night I did it, and one of
    them was something call "startup pack", or something like that.

    When I restart the computer, now, I get the welcome sign, then the desktop
    comes out, but then turns off and restarts again, over and over and over...

    I apreciate any help please

    Montenegro
    Montenegro, Jan 9, 2006
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    www.seph.ca Guest

    You are likely fucked.
    You are likely using an unauthorised copy of XP.
    They have a new procedure in place at MS for past few months, that if you
    download updates without a proper XP, you get bombed.
    I have to tell you it happened to me.
    On a fresh install, luckily.
    But I did 4 fresh installs that week on 2 machines, and it only happened
    that once.
    Apparently its arbitrary.
    With those following 3 installs, I ghosted my drive before each patch
    expecting another crash and bomb.
    It never came.
    I was able to do the updates, tho I kept auto update off, and did them
    manually.
    Some you have to go on the net and find.
    For this and many other reasons I asked for XP for XMAS, and have a valid
    copy for 1st time since WIN98 1st edition.
    Back to the matter at hand, my tech tells me he sees a lot of this lately.
    If you want to save your hard drive data, and have access to another hispeed
    pc. You can go get knoppix, its an os that runs from cd, no hd required, and
    you can use that to ACCESS, BACKUP, SAVE your data.

    Good luck.
    Like I said.
    I think you are fucked.

    ~S~
    www.seph.ca, Jan 9, 2006
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    doberek Guest

    U might be having a Sasser Worm on ur comp.
    doberek, Jan 9, 2006
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  4. Montenegro

    Montenegro Guest

    Oh no! I bought this computer in future shop, and everything is legit,
    man...

    I hope you wrong.... let's see

    thanks for the info

    M


    "www.seph.ca" <> wrote in message
    news:y_vwf.16403$...
    > You are likely fucked.
    > You are likely using an unauthorised copy of XP.
    > They have a new procedure in place at MS for past few months, that if you
    > download updates without a proper XP, you get bombed.
    > I have to tell you it happened to me.
    > On a fresh install, luckily.
    > But I did 4 fresh installs that week on 2 machines, and it only happened
    > that once.
    > Apparently its arbitrary.
    > With those following 3 installs, I ghosted my drive before each patch
    > expecting another crash and bomb.
    > It never came.
    > I was able to do the updates, tho I kept auto update off, and did them
    > manually.
    > Some you have to go on the net and find.
    > For this and many other reasons I asked for XP for XMAS, and have a valid
    > copy for 1st time since WIN98 1st edition.
    > Back to the matter at hand, my tech tells me he sees a lot of this lately.
    > If you want to save your hard drive data, and have access to another
    > hispeed pc. You can go get knoppix, its an os that runs from cd, no hd
    > required, and you can use that to ACCESS, BACKUP, SAVE your data.
    >
    > Good luck.
    > Like I said.
    > I think you are fucked.
    >
    > ~S~
    >
    >
    Montenegro, Jan 9, 2006
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  5. Montenegro

    fred-bloggs Guest

    "Montenegro" <> wrote in
    news:Jvvwf.878$:

    > I have an XP, AMD Athlon...
    >
    > I haven't download the upgrades for a while. Las night I did it, and
    > one of them was something call "startup pack", or something like that.
    >
    > When I restart the computer, now, I get the welcome sign, then the
    > desktop comes out, but then turns off and restarts again, over and
    > over and over...
    >


    When you get to desktop stop the shutdown by
    start menu
    run...
    shutdown -a
    OK

    --
    fred
    fred-bloggs, Jan 9, 2006
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  6. On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 10:42:32 -0500, "Montenegro" <>
    wrote:

    >I have an XP, AMD Athlon...
    >
    >I haven't download the upgrades for a while. Las night I did it, and one of
    >them was something call "startup pack", or something like that.
    >
    >When I restart the computer, now, I get the welcome sign, then the desktop
    >comes out, but then turns off and restarts again, over and over and over...
    >
    >I apreciate any help please
    >
    >Montenegro
    >

    That is why I refuse to download those updates. Last time I did it, I
    got infested with viruses and spyware. Hackers target Microsoft and
    attach viruses and spyware to each and every upgrade download done by
    Windows users to damage a perfectly working computer. I have been
    infested by rootkits which happened to me a month ago and it was hard
    to get rid of it unless I did a hard drive wipe and reload Windows
    2000 Pro. I haven't done any upgrades ever since. I will not do it
    anymore because I do not want to get infested by viruses and spyware.
    So I keep the auto update turned off permanently.
    BigHairyBeanBag, Jan 9, 2006
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  7. BigHairyBeanBag wrote:
    > On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 10:42:32 -0500, "Montenegro" <>
    > wrote:
    >
    >
    >>I have an XP, AMD Athlon...
    >>
    >>I haven't download the upgrades for a while. Las night I did it, and one of
    >>them was something call "startup pack", or something like that.
    >>
    >>When I restart the computer, now, I get the welcome sign, then the desktop
    >>comes out, but then turns off and restarts again, over and over and over...
    >>
    >>I apreciate any help please
    >>
    >>Montenegro
    >>

    >
    > That is why I refuse to download those updates. Last time I did it, I
    > got infested with viruses and spyware. Hackers target Microsoft and
    > attach viruses and spyware to each and every upgrade download done by
    > Windows users to damage a perfectly working computer. I have been
    > infested by rootkits which happened to me a month ago and it was hard
    > to get rid of it unless I did a hard drive wipe and reload Windows
    > 2000 Pro. I haven't done any upgrades ever since. I will not do it
    > anymore because I do not want to get infested by viruses and spyware.
    > So I keep the auto update turned off permanently.


    So your theory is that all MS updates are infected? Funny how I've not
    been hit by this nor have I heard of this from anyone else.
    =?ISO-8859-1?Q?R=F4g=EAr?=, Jan 9, 2006
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  8. Montenegro wrote:
    > I have an XP, AMD Athlon...
    >
    > I haven't download the upgrades for a while. Las night I did it, and one of
    > them was something call "startup pack", or something like that.
    >
    > When I restart the computer, now, I get the welcome sign, then the desktop
    > comes out, but then turns off and restarts again, over and over and over...
    >
    > I apreciate any help please


    Have you tried hitting F8 on startup and choose to start up with last
    known good configuration?
    =?ISO-8859-1?Q?R=F4g=EAr?=, Jan 9, 2006
    #8
  9. Montenegro

    joevan Guest

    On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 11:39:39 -0500, Rôgêr <> wrote:

    >BigHairyBeanBag wrote:
    >> On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 10:42:32 -0500, "Montenegro" <>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>>I have an XP, AMD Athlon...
    >>>
    >>>I haven't download the upgrades for a while. Las night I did it, and one of
    >>>them was something call "startup pack", or something like that.
    >>>
    >>>When I restart the computer, now, I get the welcome sign, then the desktop
    >>>comes out, but then turns off and restarts again, over and over and over...
    >>>
    >>>I apreciate any help please
    >>>
    >>>Montenegro
    >>>

    >>
    >> That is why I refuse to download those updates. Last time I did it, I
    >> got infested with viruses and spyware. Hackers target Microsoft and
    >> attach viruses and spyware to each and every upgrade download done by
    >> Windows users to damage a perfectly working computer. I have been
    >> infested by rootkits which happened to me a month ago and it was hard
    >> to get rid of it unless I did a hard drive wipe and reload Windows
    >> 2000 Pro. I haven't done any upgrades ever since. I will not do it
    >> anymore because I do not want to get infested by viruses and spyware.
    >> So I keep the auto update turned off permanently.

    >
    >So your theory is that all MS updates are infected? Funny how I've not
    >been hit by this nor have I heard of this from anyone else.

    Yeah me thinks it's funny too. Methinks another troll got out from
    under the bridge.
    His handle fits.
    --
    "Politicians are like diapers. They should both be changed frequently
    and for the same reason."
    joevan, Jan 9, 2006
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    joevan <> wrote:

    > I weigh 235 pounds and somehow I feel like I should weigh less. I'm
    > very afraid of hitting 240 pounds and I don't know why... Please help
    > me.
    Sharani al-Rawandi, Jan 9, 2006
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  11. Montenegro

    kenny Guest

    You MUST be retarded!!!!



    "BigHairyBeanBag" <> wrote in message
    news:p...
    > On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 10:42:32 -0500, "Montenegro" <>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>I have an XP, AMD Athlon...
    >>
    >>I haven't download the upgrades for a while. Las night I did it, and one
    >>of
    >>them was something call "startup pack", or something like that.
    >>
    >>When I restart the computer, now, I get the welcome sign, then the desktop
    >>comes out, but then turns off and restarts again, over and over and
    >>over...
    >>
    >>I apreciate any help please
    >>
    >>Montenegro
    >>

    > That is why I refuse to download those updates. Last time I did it, I
    > got infested with viruses and spyware. Hackers target Microsoft and
    > attach viruses and spyware to each and every upgrade download done by
    > Windows users to damage a perfectly working computer. I have been
    > infested by rootkits which happened to me a month ago and it was hard
    > to get rid of it unless I did a hard drive wipe and reload Windows
    > 2000 Pro. I haven't done any upgrades ever since. I will not do it
    > anymore because I do not want to get infested by viruses and spyware.
    > So I keep the auto update turned off permanently.
    kenny, Jan 9, 2006
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  12. Montenegro

    kenny Guest

    I thought you lived on a distant planet called linux


    "Rôgêr" <> wrote in message
    news:43c29273$0$14239$...
    > BigHairyBeanBag wrote:
    >> On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 10:42:32 -0500, "Montenegro" <>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>>I have an XP, AMD Athlon...
    >>>
    >>>I haven't download the upgrades for a while. Las night I did it, and one
    >>>of them was something call "startup pack", or something like that.
    >>>
    >>>When I restart the computer, now, I get the welcome sign, then the
    >>>desktop comes out, but then turns off and restarts again, over and over
    >>>and over...
    >>>
    >>>I apreciate any help please
    >>>
    >>>Montenegro

    >>
    >> That is why I refuse to download those updates. Last time I did it, I
    >> got infested with viruses and spyware. Hackers target Microsoft and
    >> attach viruses and spyware to each and every upgrade download done by
    >> Windows users to damage a perfectly working computer. I have been
    >> infested by rootkits which happened to me a month ago and it was hard
    >> to get rid of it unless I did a hard drive wipe and reload Windows
    >> 2000 Pro. I haven't done any upgrades ever since. I will not do it
    >> anymore because I do not want to get infested by viruses and spyware.
    >> So I keep the auto update turned off permanently.

    >
    > So your theory is that all MS updates are infected? Funny how I've not
    > been hit by this nor have I heard of this from anyone else.
    kenny, Jan 9, 2006
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  13. kenny wrote:
    > I thought you lived on a distant planet called linux


    Not sure why you'd think that, if you look at my headers it says User
    Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923)
    =?ISO-8859-1?Q?R=F4g=EAr?=, Jan 9, 2006
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  14. Montenegro

    Ghostrider Guest

    BigHairyBeanBag wrote:

    <<snipped>>

    >
    > That is why I refuse to download those updates. Last time I did it, I
    > got infested with viruses and spyware. Hackers target Microsoft and
    > attach viruses and spyware to each and every upgrade download done by
    > Windows users to damage a perfectly working computer. I have been
    > infested by rootkits which happened to me a month ago and it was hard
    > to get rid of it unless I did a hard drive wipe and reload Windows
    > 2000 Pro. I haven't done any upgrades ever since. I will not do it
    > anymore because I do not want to get infested by viruses and spyware.
    > So I keep the auto update turned off permanently.


    From where are you getting your updates?
    Ghostrider, Jan 9, 2006
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  15. Montenegro

    Toolman Tim Guest

    In news:,
    doberek spewed forth:
    > U might be having a Sasser Worm on ur comp.


    A very likely suggestion - it certainly isn't something caused by Windows
    Update.

    --
    All that glitters has a high refractive index.
    Toolman Tim, Jan 9, 2006
    #15
  16. Montenegro

    Toolman Tim Guest

    In news:,
    joevan spewed forth:
    > On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 11:39:39 -0500, Rôgêr <> wrote:
    >
    >> BigHairyBeanBag wrote:
    >>> On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 10:42:32 -0500, "Montenegro" <>
    >>> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>> I have an XP, AMD Athlon...
    >>>>
    >>>> I haven't download the upgrades for a while. Las night I did it,
    >>>> and one of them was something call "startup pack", or something
    >>>> like that.
    >>>>
    >>>> When I restart the computer, now, I get the welcome sign, then the
    >>>> desktop comes out, but then turns off and restarts again, over and
    >>>> over and over...
    >>>>
    >>>> I apreciate any help please
    >>>>
    >>>> Montenegro
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> That is why I refuse to download those updates. Last time I did it,
    >>> I got infested with viruses and spyware. Hackers target Microsoft
    >>> and attach viruses and spyware to each and every upgrade download
    >>> done by Windows users to damage a perfectly working computer. I
    >>> have been infested by rootkits which happened to me a month ago and
    >>> it was hard to get rid of it unless I did a hard drive wipe and
    >>> reload Windows 2000 Pro. I haven't done any upgrades ever since. I
    >>> will not do it anymore because I do not want to get infested by
    >>> viruses and spyware. So I keep the auto update turned off
    >>> permanently.

    >>
    >> So your theory is that all MS updates are infected? Funny how I've
    >> not been hit by this nor have I heard of this from anyone else.

    > Yeah me thinks it's funny too. Methinks another troll got out from
    > under the bridge.
    > His handle fits.



    Especially since it is a rather incorrect description of that particular
    segment of his anatomy. Now, SmallStinkyBeanBag may be much more accurate.

    --
    All that glitters has a high refractive index.
    Toolman Tim, Jan 10, 2006
    #16
  17. On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 11:39:39 -0500, Rôgêr <> wrote:

    >BigHairyBeanBag wrote:
    >> On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 10:42:32 -0500, "Montenegro" <>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>>I have an XP, AMD Athlon...
    >>>
    >>>I haven't download the upgrades for a while. Las night I did it, and one of
    >>>them was something call "startup pack", or something like that.
    >>>
    >>>When I restart the computer, now, I get the welcome sign, then the desktop
    >>>comes out, but then turns off and restarts again, over and over and over...
    >>>
    >>>I apreciate any help please
    >>>
    >>>Montenegro
    >>>

    >>
    >> That is why I refuse to download those updates. Last time I did it, I
    >> got infested with viruses and spyware. Hackers target Microsoft and
    >> attach viruses and spyware to each and every upgrade download done by
    >> Windows users to damage a perfectly working computer. I have been
    >> infested by rootkits which happened to me a month ago and it was hard
    >> to get rid of it unless I did a hard drive wipe and reload Windows
    >> 2000 Pro. I haven't done any upgrades ever since. I will not do it
    >> anymore because I do not want to get infested by viruses and spyware.
    >> So I keep the auto update turned off permanently.

    >
    >So your theory is that all MS updates are infected? Funny how I've not
    >been hit by this nor have I heard of this from anyone else.



    they're probably not ALL infected, but I've downloaded a few updates
    that set off AVG for virus of some kind.
    PowerPost2000, Jan 10, 2006
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  18. Montenegro

    Guest

    I find it hard to believe that official windows updates are infected.

    I'll bet you got scammed by one of those spyware/adware programs that
    PRETENDS to be windows update... They make them look somewhat similar..

    Regardless, if you only use official windows update site, it is a
    coincidence that your are stuck in a restart loop. I don't recall any
    windows update that was called "startup pack" or anything remotely
    close to that, but if you've gotten all official windows updates from
    microsoft, it is unrelated to your startup loop.

    You've got a virus - take it to your local shop for cleaning, or you
    can buy an adapter to hook your laptop's hard drive up to another
    machine, where you can remove the virus that way. Hopefully it hasn't
    damaged any vital windows files.
    , Jan 10, 2006
    #18
  19. On 9 Jan 2006 16:40:12 -0800, wrote:

    >I find it hard to believe that official windows updates are infected.
    >
    >I'll bet you got scammed by one of those spyware/adware programs that
    >PRETENDS to be windows update... They make them look somewhat similar..
    >
    >Regardless, if you only use official windows update site, it is a
    >coincidence that your are stuck in a restart loop. I don't recall any
    >windows update that was called "startup pack" or anything remotely
    >close to that, but if you've gotten all official windows updates from
    >microsoft, it is unrelated to your startup loop.
    >
    >You've got a virus - take it to your local shop for cleaning, or you
    >can buy an adapter to hook your laptop's hard drive up to another
    >machine, where you can remove the virus that way. Hopefully it hasn't
    >damaged any vital windows files.


    I got my virus through automatic update, straight from MS.
    PowerPost2000, Jan 10, 2006
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  20. PowerPost2000 wrote:

    > I got my virus through automatic update, straight from MS.


    What is the number of the update, please?

    --
    -bts
    -Warning: I brake for lawn deer
    Beauregard T. Shagnasty, Jan 10, 2006
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