Windows 98SE - 80GB drive.

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    ~misfit~ Guest

    I'm putting a PC together for the g/f's father. Integrated nForce2 board,
    XP2000+, 256MB RAM, 80GB Seagate 7,200rpm. (He's on a budget) A big step up
    from his Celly 500/8GB. It's a business machine and will use specialised
    software that is incompatible with 2K or XP so he wants 98SE on it.

    Can I just format C: as one partition? He isn't very computer-literate and
    I'd hate to confuse him more than I have to by having multliple partitions.
    I've never tried installing 98 on a drive that big.

    Your input would be greatly appreciated.

    TIA,
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    pete Guest

    "~misfit~" <~misfit~@his_desk.com> wrote in message
    news:QdkAb.20756$...
    > I'm putting a PC together for the g/f's father. Integrated nForce2 board,
    > XP2000+, 256MB RAM, 80GB Seagate 7,200rpm. (He's on a budget) A big step

    up
    > from his Celly 500/8GB. It's a business machine and will use specialised
    > software that is incompatible with 2K or XP so he wants 98SE on it.
    >
    > Can I just format C: as one partition? He isn't very computer-literate and
    > I'd hate to confuse him more than I have to by having multliple

    partitions.
    > I've never tried installing 98 on a drive that big.
    >
    > Your input would be greatly appreciated.
    >
    > TIA,
    > --
    > ~misfit~


    You should be able to, but even if you can't, format it for as much as you
    can ignore the rest - it will still be (relatively) huge compared to what
    went before. The size limit was around 32 gig for Fat32 IIRC

    http://www.win2000mag.net/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=38803 which has links
    to other sites, including

    http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;184006
     
    pete, Dec 6, 2003
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  3. In article <QdkAb.20756$>,
    ~misfit~@his_desk.com says...
    > I'm putting a PC together for the g/f's father. Integrated nForce2 board,
    > XP2000+, 256MB RAM, 80GB Seagate 7,200rpm. (He's on a budget) A big step up
    > from his Celly 500/8GB. It's a business machine and will use specialised
    > software that is incompatible with 2K or XP so he wants 98SE on it.
    >
    > Can I just format C: as one partition? He isn't very computer-literate and
    > I'd hate to confuse him more than I have to by having multliple partitions.
    > I've never tried installing 98 on a drive that big.
    >
    > Your input would be greatly appreciated.
    >
    > TIA,
    > --
    > ~misfit~


    I think not. See what Win98 fdisk thinks about it - it will tell you
    exactly what the size limit is. I have a dim memory of formatting my 80
    Gig drive to two 38 meg partitions and having some 6 megs left over ...
    (yes, I know that does not total 80).

    -Peter
     
    Peter Huebner, Dec 6, 2003
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  4. On Sun, 07 Dec 2003 01:50:01 +1300, ~misfit~ wrote:

    > Can I just format C: as one partition?


    Yes, just make sure it's FAT32 (this should be the default on that version
    of windohs)
     
    Uncle StoatWarbler, Dec 6, 2003
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    ~misfit~ Guest

    Thanks for the replies. I guess I'll just have to suck it and see. I'm
    waiting for him to drop his CDROM and install number off here.
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    Lennier Guest

    On Sun, 07 Dec 2003 01:50:01 +1300, ~misfit~ wrote:

    > Can I just format C: as one partition?


    Yes - you could.

    But it would make more sense to divide it into two or three partitions and
    to tell him that he has three separate places to store stuff as he sees
    fit. - especially given that all data on the other two partitions would be
    safe when reformatting the C: partition prior to the next
    re-installation of WIN98 again.

    Lennier
     
    Lennier, Dec 6, 2003
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  7. On Sun, 07 Dec 2003 10:53:04 +1300, ~misfit~ wrote:

    > Thanks for the replies. I guess I'll just have to suck it and see. I'm
    > waiting for him to drop his CDROM and install number off here.


    One assumes you don't know the handwaving trick to make win98se not need a
    serial number - all done with the cdrom.
     
    Uncle StoatWarbler, Dec 7, 2003
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    ~misfit~ Guest

    Uncle StoatWarbler wrote:
    > On Sun, 07 Dec 2003 10:53:04 +1300, ~misfit~ wrote:
    >
    >> Thanks for the replies. I guess I'll just have to suck it and see.
    >> I'm waiting for him to drop his CDROM and install number off here.

    >
    > One assumes you don't know the handwaving trick to make win98se not
    > need a serial number - all done with the cdrom.


    That is one trick I don't know. It would be handy as I have a 98SE CD here
    but just want his number but it seems he's away for a while. I'd like to
    have some time with it to be sure I can get drivers for everything, it's an
    integrated mobo, sound, NIC, video etc all on-board.
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    Graham Guest

    I'm using Win98. I have a drive, Seagate 120GB, in one partition.

    ~misfit~ wrote:
    >
    > I'm putting a PC together for the g/f's father. Integrated nForce2 board,
    > XP2000+, 256MB RAM, 80GB Seagate 7,200rpm. (He's on a budget) A big step up
    > from his Celly 500/8GB. It's a business machine and will use specialised
    > software that is incompatible with 2K or XP so he wants 98SE on it.
    >
    > Can I just format C: as one partition? He isn't very computer-literate and
    > I'd hate to confuse him more than I have to by having multliple partitions.
    > I've never tried installing 98 on a drive that big.
    >
    > Your input would be greatly appreciated.
    >
    > TIA,
    > --
    > ~misfit~
    >
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    Graham, Dec 7, 2003
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    Gordon Guest

    On Sun, 07 Dec 2003 01:50:01 +1300, ~misfit~ wrote:

    > I'm putting a PC together for the g/f's father. Integrated nForce2 board,
    > XP2000+, 256MB RAM, 80GB Seagate 7,200rpm. (He's on a budget) A big step up
    > from his Celly 500/8GB. It's a business machine and will use specialised
    > software that is incompatible with 2K or XP so he wants 98SE on it.
    >
    > Can I just format C: as one partition? He isn't very computer-literate and
    > I'd hate to confuse him more than I have to by having multliple partitions.
    > I've never tried installing 98 on a drive that big.
    >
    > Your input would be greatly appreciated.


    a) It does work, assuming the BIOS sees it all.

    b) Does the old fellow ever need know that there are more than one
    partition. Short cuts hide the details.

    c) Let the old chap use his brain, and educate him about partitions,
    farmers use these all the time, called paddocks.

    Use it or lose it as they say.
     
    Gordon, Dec 7, 2003
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    Jay Guest

    ~misfit~ wrote:

    > I'm putting a PC together for the g/f's father. Integrated nForce2 board,
    > XP2000+, 256MB RAM, 80GB Seagate 7,200rpm. (He's on a budget) A big step
    > up from his Celly 500/8GB. It's a business machine and will use
    > specialised software that is incompatible with 2K or XP so he wants 98SE
    > on it.
    >
    > Can I just format C: as one partition? He isn't very computer-literate and
    > I'd hate to confuse him more than I have to by having multliple
    > partitions. I've never tried installing 98 on a drive that big.
    >
    > Your input would be greatly appreciated.


    There are some patches on MS site for large disks and W98SE.
    Basically W98SE fdisk will only see about 60GB of it.
    Download and install the patches - fdisk will then work properly (but puts
    a bit of garbage on screen). You will want to format with Windows format
    and not command-line format.

    You will have to search MS to find the patch - 263044USA8.EXE.
     
    Jay, Dec 7, 2003
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    ~misfit~ Guest

    Jay wrote:
    > ~misfit~ wrote:
    >
    >> I'm putting a PC together for the g/f's father. Integrated nForce2
    >> board, XP2000+, 256MB RAM, 80GB Seagate 7,200rpm. (He's on a budget)
    >> A big step up from his Celly 500/8GB. It's a business machine and
    >> will use specialised software that is incompatible with 2K or XP so
    >> he wants 98SE on it.
    >>
    >> Can I just format C: as one partition? He isn't very
    >> computer-literate and I'd hate to confuse him more than I have to by
    >> having multliple partitions. I've never tried installing 98 on a
    >> drive that big.
    >>
    >> Your input would be greatly appreciated.

    >
    > There are some patches on MS site for large disks and W98SE.
    > Basically W98SE fdisk will only see about 60GB of it.
    > Download and install the patches - fdisk will then work properly (but
    > puts a bit of garbage on screen). You will want to format with
    > Windows format and not command-line format.
    >
    > You will have to search MS to find the patch - 263044USA8.EXE.


    Thanks.
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    ~misfit~ Guest

    Gordon wrote:
    > On Sun, 07 Dec 2003 01:50:01 +1300, ~misfit~ wrote:
    >
    >> I'm putting a PC together for the g/f's father. Integrated nForce2
    >> board, XP2000+, 256MB RAM, 80GB Seagate 7,200rpm. (He's on a budget)
    >> A big step up from his Celly 500/8GB. It's a business machine and
    >> will use specialised software that is incompatible with 2K or XP so
    >> he wants 98SE on it.
    >>
    >> Can I just format C: as one partition? He isn't very
    >> computer-literate and I'd hate to confuse him more than I have to by
    >> having multliple partitions. I've never tried installing 98 on a
    >> drive that big.
    >>
    >> Your input would be greatly appreciated.

    >
    > a) It does work, assuming the BIOS sees it all.
    >
    > b) Does the old fellow ever need know that there are more than one
    > partition. Short cuts hide the details.
    >
    > c) Let the old chap use his brain, and educate him about partitions,
    > farmers use these all the time, called paddocks.
    >
    > Use it or lose it as they say.


    He's a bright guy, he's just busy running three business' and doesn't want
    to feck around with learning the finer points of how to use a PC. Also, I'd
    be the one getting to do the educating/trouble-shooting and he lives a fair
    distance away so I'd rather give him what he's used to.
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    ~misfit~ Guest

    Graham wrote:
    > I'm using Win98. I have a drive, Seagate 120GB, in one partition.


    Any special patches or software required? Or just format on set-up?

    Thanks.
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    T.N.O. Guest

    Jay wrote:
    > There are some patches on MS site for large disks and W98SE.
    > Basically W98SE fdisk will only see about 60GB of it.


    You can get this from bootdisk.com
     
    T.N.O., Dec 7, 2003
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    bambam Guest

    "~misfit~" <~misfit~@his_desk.com> wrote in news:CszAb.21468$VV6.477188
    @news.xtra.co.nz:

    > Graham wrote:
    >> I'm using Win98. I have a drive, Seagate 120GB, in one partition.

    >
    > Any special patches or software required? Or just format on set-up?


    I replaced Fdisk on my Win98 Boot Disk with the one in the following
    link and did what you want to do. As far as I know it's not Win98 that
    has a problem with HDD's over 64GB, it's Fdisk-

    http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q263044

    --
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    bambam, Dec 7, 2003
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    ~misfit~ Guest

    T.N.O. wrote:
    > Jay wrote:
    >> There are some patches on MS site for large disks and W98SE.
    >> Basically W98SE fdisk will only see about 60GB of it.

    >
    > You can get this from bootdisk.com


    Cheers Dave.
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    ~misfit~ Guest

    bambam wrote:
    > "~misfit~" <~misfit~@his_desk.com> wrote in
    > news:CszAb.21468$VV6.477188 @news.xtra.co.nz:
    >
    >> Graham wrote:
    >>> I'm using Win98. I have a drive, Seagate 120GB, in one partition.

    >>
    >> Any special patches or software required? Or just format on set-up?

    >
    > I replaced Fdisk on my Win98 Boot Disk with the one in the following
    > link and did what you want to do. As far as I know it's not Win98 that
    > has a problem with HDD's over 64GB, it's Fdisk-
    >
    > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q263044


    OK, thanks for that. The only thing is, it's an .exe file. I'm not sure how
    to use it. Apparently it contains the update for 98 and 98SE and says to
    replace the Fdisk.exe file on the start-up disk with the correct one of
    these. However, I'm running XP and it won't open/run. I guess it replaces
    the fdisk on a system running 98SE and then you copy it over to the disk. I
    don't have a system running 98SE.
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  19. ~misfit~ wrote:
    > bambam wrote:
    >> "~misfit~" <~misfit~@his_desk.com> wrote in
    >> news:CszAb.21468$VV6.477188 @news.xtra.co.nz:
    >>
    >>> Graham wrote:
    >>>> I'm using Win98. I have a drive, Seagate 120GB, in one partition.
    >>>
    >>> Any special patches or software required? Or just format on set-up?

    >>
    >> I replaced Fdisk on my Win98 Boot Disk with the one in the following
    >> link and did what you want to do. As far as I know it's not Win98
    >> that has a problem with HDD's over 64GB, it's Fdisk-
    >>
    >> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q263044

    >
    > OK, thanks for that. The only thing is, it's an .exe file. I'm not
    > sure how to use it. Apparently it contains the update for 98 and 98SE
    > and says to replace the Fdisk.exe file on the start-up disk with the
    > correct one of these. However, I'm running XP and it won't open/run.
    > I guess it replaces the fdisk on a system running 98SE and then you
    > copy it over to the disk. I don't have a system running 98SE.


    You can unzip it with winzip or winrar but there's nothing exciting in it.

    08/12/2003 01:32 a.m. <DIR> .
    08/12/2003 01:32 a.m. <DIR> ..
    23/05/2000 03:45 p.m. 1,161 1998UN.INF
    23/05/2000 03:45 p.m. 1,194 2222UN.INF
    19/05/2000 11:53 a.m. 766 263044UP.INF
    23/05/2000 03:45 p.m. 2,363 98G_chk.INF
    23/05/2000 03:45 p.m. 2,397 98SE_chk.INF
    11/12/1997 06:33 a.m. 80,864 ADVPACK.DLL
    19/05/2000 10:30 a.m. 64,428 fdisk.98g
    18/05/2000 08:35 a.m. 64,460 fdisk.98s
    27/07/1998 03:48 p.m. 36,864 qfecheck.exe
    09/02/1996 06:28 p.m. 8,042 qfecheck.hlp
    04/12/1997 01:02 p.m. 2,272 W95INF16.DLL
    04/12/1997 01:02 p.m. 4,608 W95INF32.DLL
    13 File(s) 269,419 bytes

    I guess you could just update the .dll's?
    I was expecting a new fdisk.exe :-(

    Russell
     
    Russell Smithies, Dec 7, 2003
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    Dave Taylor Guest

    19/05/2000 10:30 a.m. 64,428 fdisk.98g
    18/05/2000 08:35 a.m. 64,460 fdisk.98s


    These are probably copied and renamed to .exe by the .inf scripts.
    I don't know which one is the Fdisk you need but it looks like one is for
    98 original and the other for 98SE.
    You could mess around with renaming them, but I would go to bootdisk.com
    and use their disk.
    You could pull the drive and mount in an 2k or xp box and make the
    partition using disk mamanger.
    Ciao, Dave
     
    Dave Taylor, Dec 7, 2003
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