Windows 7 Explorer issues

Discussion in 'Windows 64bit' started by wilby, Dec 10, 2010.

  1. wilby

    wilby Guest

    I have Win 7/64 pro running on a desktop. My concern is about Win
    Explorer and how it decides what information columns will be displayed
    in a folder.

    I realize that there are about six choices based on what type of data I
    have for that folder. There are however many optional choices I can
    choose from.

    For example: If I choose "music" Explorer decides that I want to see
    name, type, #, album, etc. Naturally I don't have the same opinions and
    would like to see length, bit rate, modified date, etc.

    I don't mind setting up one folder the way I want it but I do really
    dislike the fact that I cannot copy the folder settings to another
    folder, or even better, to have every sub folder match the settings of
    an upper folder.

    I'd even accept being to edit the music folder settings so that choosing
    music would give me what I want rather than what some bozo at MS decided
    I wanted.

    Can anyone help?

    Wilby
    wilby, Dec 10, 2010
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    glee Guest

    "wilby" <> wrote in message
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    >I have Win 7/64 pro running on a desktop. snip
    > Can anyone help?


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    glee, Dec 10, 2010
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  3. wilby

    Tim Meddick Guest

    We're in an XP discussion group - so I'm not going to comment on Win7
    (can't anyway as I have only briefly used that OS).

    But the function of which you are referring to, I believe, exists also in
    XP.

    And in XP, when you select the "Customize" tab, from a folder's
    "Properties" page, and select in the section :
    "What kind of folder do you want?"

    "Use this folder type as a template :
    "

    ....then you're supposed to select an option from the drop-down menu from
    items like :

    "Documents (for any file type)"
    "Pictures (best for many files)"
    "Music (best for audio files and playlists)"
    etc., etc., etc.,

    ....ends up accomplishing..........nothing!

    (in my experience anyway)

    And even when you spend an hour setting the headings up manually (for all
    your music folders, say) it all comes to dust when Windows forgets the lot
    by the end of the month!

    ==

    Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)




    "wilby" <> wrote in message
    news:ids63t$74h$-september.org...
    >I have Win 7/64 pro running on a desktop. My concern is about Win Explorer
    >and how it decides what information columns will be displayed in a folder.
    >
    > I realize that there are about six choices based on what type of data I
    > have for that folder. There are however many optional choices I can
    > choose from.
    >
    > For example: If I choose "music" Explorer decides that I want to see
    > name, type, #, album, etc. Naturally I don't have the same opinions and
    > would like to see length, bit rate, modified date, etc.
    >
    > I don't mind setting up one folder the way I want it but I do really
    > dislike the fact that I cannot copy the folder settings to another
    > folder, or even better, to have every sub folder match the settings of an
    > upper folder.
    >
    > I'd even accept being to edit the music folder settings so that choosing
    > music would give me what I want rather than what some bozo at MS decided
    > I wanted.
    >
    > Can anyone help?
    >
    > Wilby
    Tim Meddick, Dec 10, 2010
    #3
  4. Right click on the folder's header, where the column names are
    displayed, and you will see a list of items you can display.

    Check or uncheck the names and choose the ones you want.



    On 10/12/2010 03:17, wilby wrote:
    > I have Win 7/64 pro running on a desktop. My concern is about Win
    > Explorer and how it decides what information columns will be displayed
    > in a folder.
    >
    > I realize that there are about six choices based on what type of data I
    > have for that folder. There are however many optional choices I can
    > choose from.
    >
    > For example: If I choose "music" Explorer decides that I want to see
    > name, type, #, album, etc. Naturally I don't have the same opinions and
    > would like to see length, bit rate, modified date, etc.
    >
    > I don't mind setting up one folder the way I want it but I do really
    > dislike the fact that I cannot copy the folder settings to another
    > folder, or even better, to have every sub folder match the settings of
    > an upper folder.
    >
    > I'd even accept being to edit the music folder settings so that choosing
    > music would give me what I want rather than what some bozo at MS decided
    > I wanted.
    >
    > Can anyone help?
    >
    > Wilby
    Dominic Payer, Dec 10, 2010
    #4
  5. wilby

    Tim Meddick Guest

    For God's sake - I thought it was obvious that the OP knows how to do that
    as he describes "manually" setting the column-headers!

    But the issue here is - does the setting under the "Customize" tab of a
    folder's "Properties" page, make a damn bit of difference?

    When you select, say, "Music (best for audio files and playlists)" from the
    drop-down menu on the "Customize" tab, isn't it *supposed* so make that
    folder's headings relevant to Music files?

    Well I have never seen a link between a folder's headings and that setting
    in the "Customize" tab! In fact, I've ALWAYS had to set headings manually!

    And what is more important - Windows forgets all the heading customizations
    within about a month (...or two at the outside).

    ==

    Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)




    "Dominic Payer" <> wrote in message
    news:idshnv$g82$-september.org...
    > Right click on the folder's header, where the column names are displayed,
    > and you will see a list of items you can display.
    >
    > Check or uncheck the names and choose the ones you want.
    >
    >
    >
    > On 10/12/2010 03:17, wilby wrote:
    >> I have Win 7/64 pro running on a desktop. My concern is about Win
    >> Explorer and how it decides what information columns will be displayed
    >> in a folder.
    >>
    >> I realize that there are about six choices based on what type of data I
    >> have for that folder. There are however many optional choices I can
    >> choose from.
    >>
    >> For example: If I choose "music" Explorer decides that I want to see
    >> name, type, #, album, etc. Naturally I don't have the same opinions and
    >> would like to see length, bit rate, modified date, etc.
    >>
    >> I don't mind setting up one folder the way I want it but I do really
    >> dislike the fact that I cannot copy the folder settings to another
    >> folder, or even better, to have every sub folder match the settings of
    >> an upper folder.
    >>
    >> I'd even accept being to edit the music folder settings so that choosing
    >> music would give me what I want rather than what some bozo at MS decided
    >> I wanted.
    >>
    >> Can anyone help?
    >>
    >> Wilby
    Tim Meddick, Dec 10, 2010
    #5
  6. wilby

    Jeff Gaines Guest

    On 10/12/2010 in message <idsq4l$k5b$> Tim Meddick wrote:

    >And what is more important - Windows forgets all the heading
    >customizations within about a month (...or two at the outside).


    XP can only count to 400:
    http://windowsxp.mvps.org/folderviews.htm

    --
    Jeff Gaines Wiltshire UK
    If it's not broken, mess around with it until it is
    Jeff Gaines, Dec 10, 2010
    #6
  7. wilby

    Tim Meddick Guest

    That's not the point,

    You can change the default number of customizations that the Window's Shell
    "remembers" by changing the setting under Customizations in the XP
    TweakUI.exe applet.

    However, after researching the mechanics of the change, I discovered that
    this setting, along with all the data for the "remembered" folder headings
    and styles, are kept in the registry under a key that is of low priority,
    and is little more than a temporary cache!

    The data here is discarded at the drop-of-a-hat (one of those being a
    crash, for example), and all of the folder preferences with it!

    ==

    Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)


    P.S. For your further information; the reg-key in question is :

    [HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\UserAssist]

    Also, along with TweakUI.exe having the choice of setting the number of
    remembered folders from the default 4000 to whatever, the 3rd-party
    "FreshUI.exe" has also got a provision for it too.


    TweakUI.exe (for XP) (150Kb)
    http://download.microsoft.com/downl...a6-b352-839afb2a2679/TweakUiPowertoySetup.exe

    FreshUI.exe (1.5MB)
    http://www.freshdevices.com/contact.html


    "Jeff Gaines" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > On 10/12/2010 in message <idsq4l$k5b$> Tim Meddick
    > wrote:
    >
    >>And what is more important - Windows forgets all the heading
    >>customizations within about a month (...or two at the outside).

    >
    > XP can only count to 400:
    > http://windowsxp.mvps.org/folderviews.htm
    >
    > --
    > Jeff Gaines Wiltshire UK
    > If it's not broken, mess around with it until it is
    Tim Meddick, Dec 10, 2010
    #7
  8. Than why are you posting in a Windows XP newsgroup?
    "wilby" <> wrote in message
    news:ids63t$74h$-september.org...
    >I have Win 7/64 pro running on a desktop. My concern is about Win Explorer
    >and how it decides what information columns will be displayed in a folder.
    >
    > I realize that there are about six choices based on what type of data I
    > have for that folder. There are however many optional choices I can choose
    > from.
    >
    > For example: If I choose "music" Explorer decides that I want to see name,
    > type, #, album, etc. Naturally I don't have the same opinions and would
    > like to see length, bit rate, modified date, etc.
    >
    > I don't mind setting up one folder the way I want it but I do really
    > dislike the fact that I cannot copy the folder settings to another folder,
    > or even better, to have every sub folder match the settings of an upper
    > folder.
    >
    > I'd even accept being to edit the music folder settings so that choosing
    > music would give me what I want rather than what some bozo at MS decided I
    > wanted.
    >
    > Can anyone help?
    >
    > Wilby
    Harden Thicke, Dec 10, 2010
    #8
  9. wilby

    wilby Guest

    On 12/10/2010 3:37 AM, Tim Meddick wrote:
    > That's not the point,
    >
    > You can change the default number of customizations that the Window's
    > Shell "remembers" by changing the setting under Customizations in the XP
    > TweakUI.exe applet.
    >
    > However, after researching the mechanics of the change, I discovered
    > that this setting, along with all the data for the "remembered" folder
    > headings and styles, are kept in the registry under a key that is of low
    > priority, and is little more than a temporary cache!
    >
    > The data here is discarded at the drop-of-a-hat (one of those being a
    > crash, for example), and all of the folder preferences with it!
    >
    > ==
    >
    > Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)
    >
    >
    > P.S. For your further information; the reg-key in question is :
    >
    > [HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\UserAssist]
    >
    > Also, along with TweakUI.exe having the choice of setting the number of
    > remembered folders from the default 4000 to whatever, the 3rd-party
    > "FreshUI.exe" has also got a provision for it too.
    >
    >
    > TweakUI.exe (for XP) (150Kb)
    > http://download.microsoft.com/downl...a6-b352-839afb2a2679/TweakUiPowertoySetup.exe
    >
    >
    > FreshUI.exe (1.5MB)
    > http://www.freshdevices.com/contact.html
    >
    >
    > "Jeff Gaines" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >> On 10/12/2010 in message <idsq4l$k5b$> Tim Meddick
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>> And what is more important - Windows forgets all the heading
    >>> customizations within about a month (...or two at the outside).

    >>
    >> XP can only count to 400:
    >> http://windowsxp.mvps.org/folderviews.htm
    >>
    >> --
    >> Jeff Gaines Wiltshire UK
    >> If it's not broken, mess around with it until it is

    >


    Tim:

    Thanks for the suggestions. I now see that Windows doesn't work any
    better in London than it does in the states.

    I'm sure that there is some way to edit the default "music" setting.
    That way I could have at least a default choice that does what I want.

    If I ever find it I'll post it.

    Thanks!

    Wilby
    wilby, Dec 10, 2010
    #9
  10. wilby

    Tim Meddick Guest

    The very best of good luck to you!

    I'd be pleased if you'd let me know of any progress you made along those
    lines....

    ==

    Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)




    "wilby" <> wrote in message
    news:idtmti$95a$-september.org...
    > On 12/10/2010 3:37 AM, Tim Meddick wrote:
    >> That's not the point,
    >>
    >> You can change the default number of customizations that the Window's
    >> Shell "remembers" by changing the setting under Customizations in the XP
    >> TweakUI.exe applet.
    >>
    >> However, after researching the mechanics of the change, I discovered
    >> that this setting, along with all the data for the "remembered" folder
    >> headings and styles, are kept in the registry under a key that is of low
    >> priority, and is little more than a temporary cache!
    >>
    >> The data here is discarded at the drop-of-a-hat (one of those being a
    >> crash, for example), and all of the folder preferences with it!
    >>
    >> ==
    >>
    >> Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)
    >>
    >>
    >> P.S. For your further information; the reg-key in question is :
    >>
    >> [HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\UserAssist]
    >>
    >> Also, along with TweakUI.exe having the choice of setting the number of
    >> remembered folders from the default 4000 to whatever, the 3rd-party
    >> "FreshUI.exe" has also got a provision for it too.
    >>
    >>
    >> TweakUI.exe (for XP) (150Kb)
    >> http://download.microsoft.com/downl...a6-b352-839afb2a2679/TweakUiPowertoySetup.exe
    >>
    >>
    >> FreshUI.exe (1.5MB)
    >> http://www.freshdevices.com/contact.html
    >>
    >>
    >> "Jeff Gaines" <> wrote in message
    >> news:...
    >>> On 10/12/2010 in message <idsq4l$k5b$> Tim Meddick
    >>> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> And what is more important - Windows forgets all the heading
    >>>> customizations within about a month (...or two at the outside).
    >>>
    >>> XP can only count to 400:
    >>> http://windowsxp.mvps.org/folderviews.htm
    >>>
    >>> --
    >>> Jeff Gaines Wiltshire UK
    >>> If it's not broken, mess around with it until it is

    >>

    >
    > Tim:
    >
    > Thanks for the suggestions. I now see that Windows doesn't work any
    > better in London than it does in the states.
    >
    > I'm sure that there is some way to edit the default "music" setting. That
    > way I could have at least a default choice that does what I want.
    >
    > If I ever find it I'll post it.
    >
    > Thanks!
    >
    > Wilby
    >
    Tim Meddick, Dec 10, 2010
    #10
  11. wilby

    MyNews Guest

    Tim Meddick

    Do Not pull all your Hair Out save some For the next Time!
    MyNews, Dec 10, 2010
    #11
  12. wilby

    MyNews Guest

    Because we know more here about Win7 then Harden Thicke about XP!
    MyNews, Dec 10, 2010
    #12
  13. wilby

    KCB Guest

    ?
    "wilby" <> wrote in message
    news:ids63t$74h$-september.org...
    > I have Win 7/64 pro running on a desktop. My concern is about Win Explorer
    > and how it decides what information columns will be displayed in a folder.
    >
    > I realize that there are about six choices based on what type of data I
    > have for that folder. There are however many optional choices I can choose
    > from.
    >
    > For example: If I choose "music" Explorer decides that I want to see name,
    > type, #, album, etc. Naturally I don't have the same opinions and would
    > like to see length, bit rate, modified date, etc.
    >
    > I don't mind setting up one folder the way I want it but I do really
    > dislike the fact that I cannot copy the folder settings to another folder,
    > or even better, to have every sub folder match the settings of an upper
    > folder.
    >
    > I'd even accept being to edit the music folder settings so that choosing
    > music would give me what I want rather than what some bozo at MS decided I
    > wanted.
    >
    > Can anyone help?
    >
    > Wilby


    I had to check my Music folder after reading your post. I changed my
    headings about 2 weeks ago, and they are all still showing my custom
    selections. On top of that, all the subfolders (about 200) under Music also
    have the same custom headings, and I did nothing to change any of them.
    KCB, Dec 11, 2010
    #13
  14. wilby

    wilby Guest

    On 12/10/2010 6:25 PM, KCB wrote:
    > ?
    > "wilby" <> wrote in message
    > news:ids63t$74h$-september.org...
    >> I have Win 7/64 pro running on a desktop. My concern is about Win
    >> Explorer and how it decides what information columns will be displayed
    >> in a folder.
    >>
    >> I realize that there are about six choices based on what type of data
    >> I have for that folder. There are however many optional choices I can
    >> choose from.
    >>
    >> For example: If I choose "music" Explorer decides that I want to see
    >> name, type, #, album, etc. Naturally I don't have the same opinions
    >> and would like to see length, bit rate, modified date, etc.
    >>
    >> I don't mind setting up one folder the way I want it but I do really
    >> dislike the fact that I cannot copy the folder settings to another
    >> folder, or even better, to have every sub folder match the settings of
    >> an upper folder.
    >>
    >> I'd even accept being to edit the music folder settings so that
    >> choosing music would give me what I want rather than what some bozo at
    >> MS decided I wanted.
    >>
    >> Can anyone help?
    >>
    >> Wilby

    >
    > I had to check my Music folder after reading your post. I changed my
    > headings about 2 weeks ago, and they are all still showing my custom
    > selections. On top of that, all the subfolders (about 200) under Music
    > also have the same custom headings, and I did nothing to change any of
    > them.


    KCB:

    Thanks for the info. I'm going to play around again with this and see if
    I can't achieve the same results you have.

    Wilby
    wilby, Dec 11, 2010
    #14
  15. wilby

    wilby Guest

    On 12/10/2010 10:13 AM, Tim Meddick wrote:
    > The very best of good luck to you!
    >
    > I'd be pleased if you'd let me know of any progress you made along those
    > lines....
    >
    > ==
    >
    > Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)
    >
    >
    >
    >


    Tim:

    I have found a method that worked for me using win 7/64 pro.

    Follow this link and it will tell you how to change the template for a
    single folder type such as "documents", "music", etc.

    I decided to make changes to the "music" template only.

    http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/11356-folder-view-apply-all-folders.html

    The link mentions saving icon sizes and similar items however it also
    worked for me in being able to also save the custom column headers that
    I like to see in my music folders.

    I'm quite pleased.

    Wilby

    PS: Stay out of those nasty tuition street riots, we need you here.
    wilby, Dec 11, 2010
    #15
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    VanguardLH Guest

    VanguardLH, Dec 20, 2010
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