Will it be any good?

Discussion in 'MCSE' started by =?Utf-8?B?SnVzdGlu?=, Feb 9, 2005.

  1. Right now I still have about 3 years 6 months left in the military. I have
    the opportunity to take all the classes I need to in order to learn what I
    need for MCSE. My question is, if I take these classes and get the MCSE on
    Windows 2003 certifications after, by the time I get out will it be worth
    anything?
    =?Utf-8?B?SnVzdGlu?=, Feb 9, 2005
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  2. Even if the certification has changed by then, and I doubt it will. Anytime
    you have the ability to take classes and further yourself it's a good thing.

    --
    "The Rev" MCNGP #44
    Microsoft Certified Trainer

    Memories fade but a Google search never forgets.
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    ..
    "Justin" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Right now I still have about 3 years 6 months left in the military. I have
    > the opportunity to take all the classes I need to in order to learn what I
    > need for MCSE. My question is, if I take these classes and get the MCSE on
    > Windows 2003 certifications after, by the time I get out will it be worth
    > anything?
    The Rev \(MCT\), Feb 9, 2005
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  3. =?Utf-8?B?SnVzdGlu?=

    Network Guru Guest

    "Justin" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Right now I still have about 3 years 6 months left in the military. I have
    > the opportunity to take all the classes I need to in order to learn what I
    > need for MCSE. My question is, if I take these classes and get the MCSE on
    > Windows 2003 certifications after, by the time I get out will it be worth
    > anything?


    Dude,

    Yes, after you get discharged, seek employment with the government in a
    federal job capacity as an "information Technology" specialist. Every
    little certificate helps when applying for a federal job.

    Dude, what branch of service are you in? What days do you have latrine
    detail? I never cared for cleaning the latrine, especially on Monday
    mornings after the drunks puked all over it on the weekend. Moreover, I did
    not like cleaning toilets, urinals, showers. yuck...I also learned not to
    drop bar of soap in the shower. I once dropped soap and retrived it off the
    floor and it was full of pubes (i checked my blind side however, before
    bending over to pick it up)...yuck, i threw it on the floor and left it
    there. Can you handle an M-16 rifle? If so, be sure to include this along
    with your toilet bowl cleaning skills and mcse on your fed job app when you
    are discharged. You have a lapel pin? If yes, wear that on interview for
    fed job after discharge from service. keep learning, don't go out on
    payday and drink with the losers, stay in the barracks and enrich your mind
    and save some dough. college also, you need degree in addition to military
    service, lapel pin, chicks, mcse etc. so dont waste your military years
    drinking and chasing women, learn mcse and take college classes...OK?????
    BTW, is your last name Case ?
    Network Guru, Feb 9, 2005
    #3
  4. =?Utf-8?B?SnVzdGlu?=

    Network Guru Guest

    "Justin" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Right now I still have about 3 years 6 months left in the military. I have
    > the opportunity to take all the classes I need to in order to learn what I
    > need for MCSE. My question is, if I take these classes and get the MCSE on
    > Windows 2003 certifications after, by the time I get out will it be worth
    > anything?



    It's always good for the guy....don't know if it will be good for her
    though.
    Network Guru, Feb 9, 2005
    #4
  5. No my last name isn't Case. I am in the Navy but with the hopes to become a
    SEAL, although those hopes are put on hold for now for medical reasons even
    though I passed the test to go to BUD\S. I just got out of IT school and am
    stationed in San Diego on shore duty. And actually since Im on shore duty, Im
    not having to do the crappy jobs like cleaning toilets like I would if I had
    gone to a ship (believe me I thought it all out before I chose orders) even
    though there are some downsides. I guess a more appropriate rewording of my
    question would be, would an MCSE in Windows 2003 server be worth anything but
    the time I get out? As in, will Windows 2003 still be in use. Obviously no
    one can tell the future but based on how techonology typically grows and
    moves on and what the word is of future OS', would this be of use when I get
    out?

    "Network Guru" wrote:

    >
    > "Justin" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    > > Right now I still have about 3 years 6 months left in the military. I have
    > > the opportunity to take all the classes I need to in order to learn what I
    > > need for MCSE. My question is, if I take these classes and get the MCSE on
    > > Windows 2003 certifications after, by the time I get out will it be worth
    > > anything?

    >
    > Dude,
    >
    > Yes, after you get discharged, seek employment with the government in a
    > federal job capacity as an "information Technology" specialist. Every
    > little certificate helps when applying for a federal job.
    >
    > Dude, what branch of service are you in? What days do you have latrine
    > detail? I never cared for cleaning the latrine, especially on Monday
    > mornings after the drunks puked all over it on the weekend. Moreover, I did
    > not like cleaning toilets, urinals, showers. yuck...I also learned not to
    > drop bar of soap in the shower. I once dropped soap and retrived it off the
    > floor and it was full of pubes (i checked my blind side however, before
    > bending over to pick it up)...yuck, i threw it on the floor and left it
    > there. Can you handle an M-16 rifle? If so, be sure to include this along
    > with your toilet bowl cleaning skills and mcse on your fed job app when you
    > are discharged. You have a lapel pin? If yes, wear that on interview for
    > fed job after discharge from service. keep learning, don't go out on
    > payday and drink with the losers, stay in the barracks and enrich your mind
    > and save some dough. college also, you need degree in addition to military
    > service, lapel pin, chicks, mcse etc. so dont waste your military years
    > drinking and chasing women, learn mcse and take college classes...OK?????
    > BTW, is your last name Case ?
    >
    >
    >
    =?Utf-8?B?SnVzdGlu?=, Feb 9, 2005
    #5
  6. =?Utf-8?B?SnVzdGlu?=

    Network Guru Guest

    Justin,

    The best you can do is make the most out of your military experience. I'd
    pursue 2003 now. The knowledge won't hurt. You can upgrade it to the new
    flavor of the day 3 years down the road. The military is a waste of time
    if you do not take the initiative and better yourself. It will probably be
    a little antiquated by the time you are discharged, but I'm sure the OS will
    be in widespread use at that time...so it can not hurt. I wish you all the
    best in your SEAL endeavors. That is far more impressive than an
    MCSE...There ain't no braindumps available for SEAL training! You are a
    smarter man than I was as a youngster. I always got stuck cleaning toilets
    etc etc while in the service.

    "Justin" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > No my last name isn't Case. I am in the Navy but with the hopes to become
    > a
    > SEAL, although those hopes are put on hold for now for medical reasons
    > even
    > though I passed the test to go to BUD\S. I just got out of IT school and
    > am
    > stationed in San Diego on shore duty. And actually since Im on shore duty,
    > Im
    > not having to do the crappy jobs like cleaning toilets like I would if I
    > had
    > gone to a ship (believe me I thought it all out before I chose orders)
    > even
    > though there are some downsides. I guess a more appropriate rewording of
    > my
    > question would be, would an MCSE in Windows 2003 server be worth anything
    > but
    > the time I get out? As in, will Windows 2003 still be in use. Obviously no
    > one can tell the future but based on how techonology typically grows and
    > moves on and what the word is of future OS', would this be of use when I
    > get
    > out?
    >
    > "Network Guru" wrote:
    >
    >>
    >> "Justin" <> wrote in message
    >> news:...
    >> > Right now I still have about 3 years 6 months left in the military. I
    >> > have
    >> > the opportunity to take all the classes I need to in order to learn
    >> > what I
    >> > need for MCSE. My question is, if I take these classes and get the MCSE
    >> > on
    >> > Windows 2003 certifications after, by the time I get out will it be
    >> > worth
    >> > anything?

    >>
    >> Dude,
    >>
    >> Yes, after you get discharged, seek employment with the government in a
    >> federal job capacity as an "information Technology" specialist. Every
    >> little certificate helps when applying for a federal job.
    >>
    >> Dude, what branch of service are you in? What days do you have
    >> latrine
    >> detail? I never cared for cleaning the latrine, especially on Monday
    >> mornings after the drunks puked all over it on the weekend. Moreover, I
    >> did
    >> not like cleaning toilets, urinals, showers. yuck...I also learned not
    >> to
    >> drop bar of soap in the shower. I once dropped soap and retrived it off
    >> the
    >> floor and it was full of pubes (i checked my blind side however, before
    >> bending over to pick it up)...yuck, i threw it on the floor and left it
    >> there. Can you handle an M-16 rifle? If so, be sure to include this
    >> along
    >> with your toilet bowl cleaning skills and mcse on your fed job app when
    >> you
    >> are discharged. You have a lapel pin? If yes, wear that on interview
    >> for
    >> fed job after discharge from service. keep learning, don't go out on
    >> payday and drink with the losers, stay in the barracks and enrich your
    >> mind
    >> and save some dough. college also, you need degree in addition to
    >> military
    >> service, lapel pin, chicks, mcse etc. so dont waste your military years
    >> drinking and chasing women, learn mcse and take college
    >> classes...OK?????
    >> BTW, is your last name Case ?
    >>
    >>
    >>
    Network Guru, Feb 9, 2005
    #6
  7. =?Utf-8?B?SnVzdGlu?=

    Briscobar Guest

    "Justin" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Right now I still have about 3 years 6 months left in the military. I have
    > the opportunity to take all the classes I need to in order to learn what I
    > need for MCSE. My question is, if I take these classes and get the MCSE on
    > Windows 2003 certifications after, by the time I get out will it be worth
    > anything?


    anytime you can take classes, especially for free, it can't hurt. If the
    military is going to pay for it, and IT is what you want to get into,
    definitely take the classes. My suggestion, if you won't be able to use the
    cert for 3 more years, is to take 2003 classes and exams, not windows 2000.


    Ken
    Briscobar, Feb 9, 2005
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  8. =?Utf-8?B?SnVzdGlu?=

    Jtyc Guest

    > Right now I still have about 3 years 6 months left in the military. I have
    > the opportunity to take all the classes I need to in order to learn what I
    > need for MCSE. My question is, if I take these classes and get the MCSE on
    > Windows 2003 certifications after, by the time I get out will it be worth
    > anything?


    I wouldn't take the classes if they where on the MCSE specifically. Just
    learning the stuff to pass the test is rather pointless in my personal
    opinion.
    Jtyc, Feb 9, 2005
    #8
  9. =?Utf-8?B?SnVzdGlu?=

    Jtyc Guest

    > No my last name isn't Case. I am in the Navy but with the hopes to become
    a
    > SEAL,


    I hope you like being cold.

    > question would be, would an MCSE in Windows 2003 server be worth anything

    but
    > the time I get out?


    Eh... experience is more valuable than the cert. You can always get the
    latest cert, but it gaining practical experience is what will make you more
    valuable in the long haul.

    All my opinion btw...




    Except the being cold part... you WILL be cold. Enjoy.
    Jtyc, Feb 9, 2005
    #9
  10. =?Utf-8?B?SnVzdGlu?=

    Kurt Guest

    Don't be completely fooled by all the gloomsday posts about MCSE not being
    worth anything. That's not to say you can expect to start a job a $80K, but
    if you work with it, even as an intern, pass all the tests and get
    certified, there are those who will respect both you and your cert. My boss
    has made it clear that my MCSE was a major factor in the decision to hire
    me. To be fair, I also have some other certs (lesser for the most part),
    including a CCNA. And I can install and set up basic services on a linux box
    and make it work in a windows environment (samba). So the moral is, MCSE
    alone may not be enough. But it looks real good and carries some weight in
    an IT resume` - I plan to upgrade mine ASAP.

    ....kurt

    "Justin" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Right now I still have about 3 years 6 months left in the military. I have
    > the opportunity to take all the classes I need to in order to learn what I
    > need for MCSE. My question is, if I take these classes and get the MCSE on
    > Windows 2003 certifications after, by the time I get out will it be worth
    > anything?
    Kurt, Feb 10, 2005
    #10
  11. =?Utf-8?B?SnVzdGlu?=

    Rowdy Yates Guest

    =?Utf-8?B?SnVzdGlu?= <> wrote in
    news::

    > Right now I still have about 3 years 6 months left in the military. I
    > have the opportunity to take all the classes I need to in order to
    > learn what I need for MCSE. My question is, if I take these classes
    > and get the MCSE on Windows 2003 certifications after, by the time I
    > get out will it be worth anything?
    >


    yo. as long as someone else if footing the bill, you take as much and
    everything they are willing to pay for.

    --
    Rowdy Yates, MCNGP #39
    http://www.mcngp.com/
    http://profiles.yahoo.com/rowdy_yates_mcngp
    Rowdy Yates, Feb 10, 2005
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