Wifi resources

Discussion in 'Wireless Networking' started by aljuhani, Oct 25, 2006.

  1. aljuhani

    aljuhani Guest

    Dear microsoft.public.windows.networking.wireless Group members,

    Just wanted to indicate that we seem to be running out of discussions
    in this group as there is always an answer under ezlan.net.

    I have been to the website and seems fine but there are thousands of
    other resources on the net and I do not see the reason of limiting all
    references to ezlan.net unless is something to do with search engine
    ranking improvement.

    I of course appreciate the work of Mr. Jack (MVP-Networking) but thats
    what I have noticed and felt that it is important to express to the
    group members.

    Thanks.

    -aljuhani
    aljuhani, Oct 25, 2006
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  2. Hi,

    One reason for this is that since wireless networking is a big broad topic
    and it is hard to explain the features especially the setup features to a
    person who has never seen a wireless network. This is true for people outside
    of the USA and aplenty in Asia where i live.

    So unless a user who goes for a wireless network or a wireless router will
    be overwhelmed at the complexity at the set up features needed for either a
    stand alone laptop or a wireless network and the only best way is by trial
    and error. If you can get to visualise how a wireless router is setup or how
    a wireless network is configured on a laptop then you will be seeing a lot of
    things including the troubleshooting stages. And in fact it is never
    documented except in ezlan.net

    In fact I had experienced wireless networking during MS Events with the MS
    evangelists who attend those events at 5-star hotels before going for a
    wireless network and I must say that it is pretty tough to troubleshoot these
    kind of problems unless you have an overview of what is going on and why.
    --
    Regards
    M. Rajesh
    www.winxpsolution.com.
    MeraWindows


    "aljuhani" wrote:

    > Dear microsoft.public.windows.networking.wireless Group members,
    >
    > Just wanted to indicate that we seem to be running out of discussions
    > in this group as there is always an answer under ezlan.net.
    >
    > I have been to the website and seems fine but there are thousands of
    > other resources on the net and I do not see the reason of limiting all
    > references to ezlan.net unless is something to do with search engine
    > ranking improvement.
    >
    > I of course appreciate the work of Mr. Jack (MVP-Networking) but thats
    > what I have noticed and felt that it is important to express to the
    > group members.
    >
    > Thanks.
    >
    > -aljuhani
    >
    >
    =?Utf-8?B?TS4gUmFqZXNo?=, Oct 25, 2006
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  3. aljuhani

    Malke Guest

    aljuhani wrote:

    > Dear microsoft.public.windows.networking.wireless Group members,
    >
    > Just wanted to indicate that we seem to be running out of discussions
    > in this group as there is always an answer under ezlan.net.
    >
    > I have been to the website and seems fine but there are thousands of
    > other resources on the net and I do not see the reason of limiting all
    > references to ezlan.net unless is something to do with search engine
    > ranking improvement.

    (snippage)

    Then post some.

    Malke
    --
    Elephant Boy Computers
    www.elephantboycomputers.com
    "Don't Panic!"
    MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
    Malke, Oct 25, 2006
    #3
  4. Hi

    After spending time on many public forums I noticed that certain questions
    are repeating quite often, so instead of keep typing the same answers I came
    up with the EZLAN.NET idea.

    As an example, most current laptops come with both wire and wireless Network
    Cards. End-users wanted to know if it possible to set preference to decide
    automatically which connection should be used first in the presence of both
    wire and wireless (like use the wire first when it plugged in the Office,
    and default to Wireless at home). The answer is Metrics, however if the
    end-user does not know that, how he/she is going to look for it. At the
    time, the I noticed that, the question kept coming in many forums on a daily
    basis. There were many sources concerning Metrics on the Internet. However,
    these pages did not make the direct connection to what the users were
    looking for, and they are written in a way that makes it hard to End-Users
    to understand how specifically it set in Windows XP. Therefore, I published
    a simple page explaining the choices and how to set it (
    http://www.ezlan.net/metrics.html ). Naturally, when I come across a
    question concerning Network's connection preference I link to the metrics
    page on EZLAN.NET (the same rational applies to most of the pages on
    EZLAN.NET).

    If you type "Configuring Metrics" into a MSN Search, or Google, EZLAN.NET
    comes first, that has nothing to do with me (I do not think that I linked to
    the page more than 20 or 30 times), it just shows the current popularity of
    this topic

    To the best of my recollection, I never issued a patent on using this
    approach ;) other people (and Microsoft MVPs) do something similar. May be
    you would like to give it a try too.



    As for your comment "something to do with search engine ranking improvement".



    I hope that you noticed that EZLAN.NET does have any commercial aspects (Not
    even the ""obligatory"" ;) Ad Sense). I DO NOT have any financial benefits
    from the Site, (actually the more traffic the more it costs me).

    In my main profession I am a specialist in NeuroRehabilitation, I have No
    income associated with my computer related Internet activities.

    Jack (MVP-Networking).

    P.S. If you have few pages that follow the same rational, I would be glad to
    publish them and give you the credit.





    "aljuhani" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Dear microsoft.public.windows.networking.wireless Group members,
    >
    > Just wanted to indicate that we seem to be running out of discussions
    > in this group as there is always an answer under ezlan.net.
    >
    > I have been to the website and seems fine but there are thousands of
    > other resources on the net and I do not see the reason of limiting all
    > references to ezlan.net unless is something to do with search engine
    > ranking improvement.
    >
    > I of course appreciate the work of Mr. Jack (MVP-Networking) but thats
    > what I have noticed and felt that it is important to express to the
    > group members.
    >
    > Thanks.
    >
    > -aljuhani
    >
    Jack \(MVP-Networking\)., Oct 25, 2006
    #4
  5. aljuhani

    Patty Guest

    On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 12:40:23 -0400, Jack (MVP-Networking). wrote:

    > Hi
    >
    > After spending time on many public forums I noticed that certain questions
    > are repeating quite often, so instead of keep typing the same answers I came
    > up with the EZLAN.NET idea.
    >
    > As an example, most current laptops come with both wire and wireless Network
    > Cards. End-users wanted to know if it possible to set preference to decide
    > automatically which connection should be used first in the presence of both
    > wire and wireless (like use the wire first when it plugged in the Office,
    > and default to Wireless at home). The answer is Metrics, however if the
    > end-user does not know that, how he/she is going to look for it. At the
    > time, the I noticed that, the question kept coming in many forums on a daily
    > basis. There were many sources concerning Metrics on the Internet. However,
    > these pages did not make the direct connection to what the users were
    > looking for, and they are written in a way that makes it hard to End-Users
    > to understand how specifically it set in Windows XP. Therefore, I published
    > a simple page explaining the choices and how to set it (
    > http://www.ezlan.net/metrics.html ). Naturally, when I come across a
    > question concerning Network's connection preference I link to the metrics
    > page on EZLAN.NET (the same rational applies to most of the pages on
    > EZLAN.NET).
    >
    > If you type "Configuring Metrics" into a MSN Search, or Google, EZLAN.NET
    > comes first, that has nothing to do with me (I do not think that I linked to
    > the page more than 20 or 30 times), it just shows the current popularity of
    > this topic
    >
    > To the best of my recollection, I never issued a patent on using this
    > approach ;) other people (and Microsoft MVPs) do something similar. May be
    > you would like to give it a try too.
    >
    >
    >
    > As for your comment "something to do with search engine ranking improvement".
    >
    >
    >
    > I hope that you noticed that EZLAN.NET does have any commercial aspects (Not
    > even the ""obligatory"" ;) Ad Sense). I DO NOT have any financial benefits
    > from the Site, (actually the more traffic the more it costs me).
    >
    > In my main profession I am a specialist in NeuroRehabilitation, I have No
    > income associated with my computer related Internet activities.
    >
    > Jack (MVP-Networking).
    >
    > P.S. If you have few pages that follow the same rational, I would be glad to
    > publish them and give you the credit.


    Well, you know, I tried the metric thing with my Sony Laptop. When I set
    it to default to wired first, it still connected to both, wired and
    wireless. I had to disconnect from the wirelss manually. Luckily, my Sony
    has a switch to just turn off the wireless.

    Patty
    Patty, Oct 26, 2006
    #5
  6. Hi
    Metrics settings does not switch Off the second connection it just establish
    the preferred connection.
    Jack (MVP-Networking).

    "Patty" <> wrote in message
    news:1itz1pl4qkp0b.2hstfvzz8ebz$...
    > On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 12:40:23 -0400, Jack (MVP-Networking). wrote:
    >
    >> Hi
    >>
    >> After spending time on many public forums I noticed that certain
    >> questions
    >> are repeating quite often, so instead of keep typing the same answers I
    >> came
    >> up with the EZLAN.NET idea.
    >>
    >> As an example, most current laptops come with both wire and wireless
    >> Network
    >> Cards. End-users wanted to know if it possible to set preference to
    >> decide
    >> automatically which connection should be used first in the presence of
    >> both
    >> wire and wireless (like use the wire first when it plugged in the Office,
    >> and default to Wireless at home). The answer is Metrics, however if the
    >> end-user does not know that, how he/she is going to look for it. At the
    >> time, the I noticed that, the question kept coming in many forums on a
    >> daily
    >> basis. There were many sources concerning Metrics on the Internet.
    >> However,
    >> these pages did not make the direct connection to what the users were
    >> looking for, and they are written in a way that makes it hard to
    >> End-Users
    >> to understand how specifically it set in Windows XP. Therefore, I
    >> published
    >> a simple page explaining the choices and how to set it (
    >> http://www.ezlan.net/metrics.html ). Naturally, when I come across a
    >> question concerning Network's connection preference I link to the metrics
    >> page on EZLAN.NET (the same rational applies to most of the pages on
    >> EZLAN.NET).
    >>
    >> If you type "Configuring Metrics" into a MSN Search, or Google, EZLAN.NET
    >> comes first, that has nothing to do with me (I do not think that I linked
    >> to
    >> the page more than 20 or 30 times), it just shows the current popularity
    >> of
    >> this topic
    >>
    >> To the best of my recollection, I never issued a patent on using this
    >> approach ;) other people (and Microsoft MVPs) do something similar. May
    >> be
    >> you would like to give it a try too.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> As for your comment "something to do with search engine ranking
    >> improvement".
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> I hope that you noticed that EZLAN.NET does have any commercial aspects
    >> (Not
    >> even the ""obligatory"" ;) Ad Sense). I DO NOT have any financial
    >> benefits
    >> from the Site, (actually the more traffic the more it costs me).
    >>
    >> In my main profession I am a specialist in NeuroRehabilitation, I have No
    >> income associated with my computer related Internet activities.
    >>
    >> Jack (MVP-Networking).
    >>
    >> P.S. If you have few pages that follow the same rational, I would be glad
    >> to
    >> publish them and give you the credit.

    >
    > Well, you know, I tried the metric thing with my Sony Laptop. When I set
    > it to default to wired first, it still connected to both, wired and
    > wireless. I had to disconnect from the wirelss manually. Luckily, my
    > Sony
    > has a switch to just turn off the wireless.
    >
    > Patty
    Jack \(MVP-Networking\)., Oct 26, 2006
    #6
  7. aljuhani

    David Hettel Guest

    I believe that the purpose here for most users is to get answers that work
    IMHO ezlan.net does just that, that's why I have included links to it. And I
    hope Jack doesn't mind. I try to give the clearest link I can find, often
    that is ezlan.net. You are free to post different answers, or links to other
    sites if you believe they will help. There are generally a number of
    different ways to accomplish any given task in Windows, for most new users
    having twenty different paths or way to get where they are going isn't
    helpful, just confusing. At least that has been my experience. Nor does it
    help the new user half way down a path to a solution, to be given directions
    to finish a path they are not on.

    --
    David Hettel

    Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
    for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
    addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

    Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
    http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

    DISCLAIMER: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
    confers no rights


    "aljuhani" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Dear microsoft.public.windows.networking.wireless Group members,
    >
    > Just wanted to indicate that we seem to be running out of discussions
    > in this group as there is always an answer under ezlan.net.
    >
    > I have been to the website and seems fine but there are thousands of
    > other resources on the net and I do not see the reason of limiting all
    > references to ezlan.net unless is something to do with search engine
    > ranking improvement.
    >
    > I of course appreciate the work of Mr. Jack (MVP-Networking) but thats
    > what I have noticed and felt that it is important to express to the
    > group members.
    >
    > Thanks.
    >
    > -aljuhani
    >
    David Hettel, Oct 26, 2006
    #7
  8. aljuhani

    Patty Guest

    On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 11:19:26 -0400, Jack (MVP-Networking). wrote:

    > Hi
    > Metrics settings does not switch Off the second connection it just establish
    > the preferred connection.
    > Jack (MVP-Networking).
    >


    So, the point is? If one has preference over the other and yet they both
    still connect what's the point? You don't want them to both connect when
    you're using the computer, do you?

    Thanks!

    Patty
    Patty, Oct 26, 2006
    #8
  9. Hi
    If you have one Network, they are connected but both are Not really Active .
    Only one connection to same Network can be maintained, and the metrics
    established which one would be the default connection.. You might not need
    this feature but other do.
    Jack (MVP-Networking).

    "Patty" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 11:19:26 -0400, Jack (MVP-Networking). wrote:
    >
    >> Hi
    >> Metrics settings does not switch Off the second connection it just
    >> establish
    >> the preferred connection.
    >> Jack (MVP-Networking).
    >>

    >
    > So, the point is? If one has preference over the other and yet they both
    > still connect what's the point? You don't want them to both connect when
    > you're using the computer, do you?
    >
    > Thanks!
    >
    > Patty
    Jack \(MVP-Networking\)., Oct 26, 2006
    #9
  10. aljuhani

    David Hettel Guest

    Perhaps you just don't get it. The point is with metrics, you can control
    how the request is routed (which card the request is sent out on) So yes
    both cards get IP addresses and both cards maybe connected to two very
    different networks, but the metrics determine which card the computer sends
    request through. In effect plugging or unplugging your cards as needed.

    --
    David Hettel

    Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
    for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
    addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

    Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
    http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

    DISCLAIMER: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
    confers no rights


    "Patty" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 11:19:26 -0400, Jack (MVP-Networking). wrote:
    >
    >> Hi
    >> Metrics settings does not switch Off the second connection it just
    >> establish
    >> the preferred connection.
    >> Jack (MVP-Networking).
    >>

    >
    > So, the point is? If one has preference over the other and yet they both
    > still connect what's the point? You don't want them to both connect when
    > you're using the computer, do you?
    >
    > Thanks!
    >
    > Patty
    David Hettel, Oct 26, 2006
    #10
  11. aljuhani

    Patty Guest

    On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 18:32:48 -0400, David Hettel wrote:

    > Perhaps you just don't get it. The point is with metrics, you can control
    > how the request is routed (which card the request is sent out on) So yes
    > both cards get IP addresses and both cards maybe connected to two very
    > different networks, but the metrics determine which card the computer sends
    > request through. In effect plugging or unplugging your cards as needed.


    Yes, I'm trying to understand this. When I tried setting the metrics, both
    icons in the taskbar flashed each time something was sent across the
    network. If one was default or the one being used, then why did both react
    and flash? Wouldn't just the one that was "active" from the metrics
    setting react? If I physically unplugged the card, then the icon would not
    flash or react to something being sent across the network, would it? I'm
    just trying to understand how this all works.

    Thanks!

    Patty
    Patty, Oct 27, 2006
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