Who wants to build me a barebones box?

Discussion in 'NZ Computing' started by Southern Kiwi, Oct 19, 2004.

  1. Under $600

    Some minimum specs.....

    All parts new

    cdrw
    4 usb
    256 mem
    40 gig hd
    soundcard, or onboard (no speakers)
    128 video
    cpu....capable of playing some kick arse games
    ltp
    com
    lan
    56k modem




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    Southern Kiwi, Oct 19, 2004
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  2. In article <4174c9fd$>, "Southern Kiwi" <southern_kiwi@*spamsucks*hotmail.com> wrote:
    >Under $600
    >
    >Some minimum specs.....
    >
    >All parts new
    >

    *SNIP*
    >128 video
    >cpu....capable of playing some kick arse games

    *SNIP*

    Sorry, there's over half your budget. If you want the CPU power and
    video card to play recent games, you'll spend at least $500 on just
    those two items.

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    Matthew Poole Auckland, New Zealand
    "Veni, vidi, velcro...
    I came, I saw, I stuck around"

    My real e-mail is mattATp00leDOTnet
    Matthew Poole, Oct 19, 2004
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  3. In article <4174c9fd$> in nz.comp on Tue, 19 Oct 2004
    20:56:47 +1300, Southern Kiwi <southern_kiwi@*spamsucks*hotmail.com>
    says...
    > Under $600
    >
    > Some minimum specs.....
    >
    > All parts new
    >
    > cdrw
    > 4 usb
    > 256 mem
    > 40 gig hd
    > soundcard, or onboard (no speakers)
    > 128 video
    > cpu....capable of playing some kick arse games
    > ltp
    > com
    > lan
    > 56k modem


    Look at a Shuttle barebones kit from Ascent
    Patrick Dunford, Oct 19, 2004
    #3
  4. "Patrick Dunford" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > In article <4174c9fd$> in nz.comp on Tue, 19 Oct 2004
    > 20:56:47 +1300, Southern Kiwi <southern_kiwi@*spamsucks*hotmail.com>
    > says...
    > > Under $600
    > >
    > > Some minimum specs.....
    > >
    > > All parts new
    > >
    > > cdrw
    > > 4 usb
    > > 256 mem
    > > 40 gig hd
    > > soundcard, or onboard (no speakers)
    > > 128 video
    > > cpu....capable of playing some kick arse games
    > > ltp
    > > com
    > > lan
    > > 56k modem

    >
    > Look at a Shuttle barebones kit from Ascent


    cheers for that
    Southern Kiwi, Oct 19, 2004
    #4
  5. Southern Kiwi

    Mark Guest

    Er ..kick ass games...on a ....$600? pc.............. yeah :)

    On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 07:27:16 +1300, "Southern Kiwi"
    <southern_kiwi@*spamsucks*hotmail.com> wrote:

    >"Patrick Dunford" <> wrote in message
    >news:...
    >> In article <4174c9fd$> in nz.comp on Tue, 19 Oct 2004
    >> 20:56:47 +1300, Southern Kiwi <southern_kiwi@*spamsucks*hotmail.com>
    >> says...
    >> > Under $600
    >> >
    >> > Some minimum specs.....
    >> >
    >> > All parts new
    >> >
    >> > cdrw
    >> > 4 usb
    >> > 256 mem
    >> > 40 gig hd
    >> > soundcard, or onboard (no speakers)
    >> > 128 video
    >> > cpu....capable of playing some kick arse games
    >> > ltp
    >> > com
    >> > lan
    >> > 56k modem

    >>
    >> Look at a Shuttle barebones kit from Ascent

    >
    >cheers for that
    >




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    Mark, Oct 20, 2004
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  6. Ok, so how about min spec cpu of PIII 1000 or better.
    That should open the field a bit...................



    "Mark" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Er ..kick ass games...on a ....$600? pc.............. yeah :)
    >
    > On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 07:27:16 +1300, "Southern Kiwi"
    > <southern_kiwi@*spamsucks*hotmail.com> wrote:
    >
    > >"Patrick Dunford" <> wrote in message
    > >news:...
    > >> In article <4174c9fd$> in nz.comp on Tue, 19 Oct 2004
    > >> 20:56:47 +1300, Southern Kiwi <southern_kiwi@*spamsucks*hotmail.com>
    > >> says...
    > >> > Under $600
    > >> >
    > >> > Some minimum specs.....
    > >> >
    > >> > All parts new
    > >> >
    > >> > cdrw
    > >> > 4 usb
    > >> > 256 mem
    > >> > 40 gig hd
    > >> > soundcard, or onboard (no speakers)
    > >> > 128 video
    > >> > cpu....capable of playing some kick arse games
    > >> > ltp
    > >> > com
    > >> > lan
    > >> > 56k modem
    > >>
    > >> Look at a Shuttle barebones kit from Ascent

    > >
    > >cheers for that
    > >

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    Southern Kiwi, Oct 20, 2004
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  7. Southern Kiwi

    ~misfit~ Guest

    Mark wrote:
    > Er ..kick ass games...on a ....$600? pc.............. yeah :)


    *And* with only 256MB RAM. I play Diablo 2 a lot, a 3 or 5 year old game. It
    alone uses that much RAM, without considering the OS.
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    ~misfit~

    > On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 07:27:16 +1300, "Southern Kiwi"
    > <southern_kiwi@*spamsucks*hotmail.com> wrote:
    >
    >> "Patrick Dunford" <> wrote in message
    >> news:...
    >>> In article <4174c9fd$> in nz.comp on Tue, 19 Oct 2004
    >>> 20:56:47 +1300, Southern Kiwi <southern_kiwi@*spamsucks*hotmail.com>
    >>> says...
    >>>> Under $600
    >>>>
    >>>> Some minimum specs.....
    >>>>
    >>>> All parts new
    >>>>
    >>>> cdrw
    >>>> 4 usb
    >>>> 256 mem
    >>>> 40 gig hd
    >>>> soundcard, or onboard (no speakers)
    >>>> 128 video
    >>>> cpu....capable of playing some kick arse games
    >>>> ltp
    >>>> com
    >>>> lan
    >>>> 56k modem
    >>>
    >>> Look at a Shuttle barebones kit from Ascent

    >>
    >> cheers for that
    >>

    >
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  8. ~misfit~ wrote:
    >>Er ..kick ass games...on a ....$600? pc.............. yeah :)


    > *And* with only 256MB RAM. I play Diablo 2 a lot, a 3 or 5 year old game. It
    > alone uses that much RAM, without considering the OS.


    it does depend on what you consider to be kickarse games though.

    I play total annihilation(C&C clone) which was a 1995 game, made to run
    on a P75 with 16MB ram... it was and is a great game, and I think that
    it kicks arse... but hey, each to their own.

    since I first got it I have changed from playing it at 640x480 to
    1280x1024, changed config files to go from a 250 unit limit to a 5000
    unit limit, upgraded the maps and a few dlls to allow for huge
    maps(initially limited to 25x25 units, now playing on 80x80).

    It is still essencially the same game, but well and truly playable on
    lower systems, although not to the same extent.

    I've also scripted some of the group selections so that certain key
    combos select certain groupings of units.

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    Dave - Dave.net.nz, Oct 20, 2004
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  9. Southern Kiwi

    EMB Guest

    Southern Kiwi wrote:
    > Under $600
    >

    Try QMB - I've just put together a system as below for my nephew. It all
    works ok and he's happy.


    http://www.qmb.co.nz

    parts nos, 100757, 120, 101459, 100420

    40GB hdd, Celeron 2.4/MB/256MB/case bundle, CD-RW, Geforce FX-5200

    Total cost $612.

    No modem (I'll post you one for $10) or FDD (who needs one, burn a DOS
    boot CD) at that price, but it meets your requirements.


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    change two to the number to reply
    EMB, Oct 20, 2004
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  10. Southern Kiwi

    Hmmm Guest

    Dave - Dave.net.nz wrote:
    > ~misfit~ wrote:
    >
    >>> Er ..kick ass games...on a ....$600? pc.............. yeah :)

    >
    >
    >> *And* with only 256MB RAM. I play Diablo 2 a lot, a 3 or 5 year old
    >> game. It
    >> alone uses that much RAM, without considering the OS.

    >
    >
    > it does depend on what you consider to be kickarse games though.
    >
    > I play total annihilation(C&C clone) which was a 1995 game, made to run
    > on a P75 with 16MB ram... it was and is a great game, and I think that
    > it kicks arse... but hey, each to their own.


    total annihilation does indeed rock... and I find myself still playing
    it at times also, along with starcraft which also doesn't need a kick
    ass machine.

    Speaking of Totan annihilation, how did you increase the unit maxxes?
    and also, did you have problems with planes landing on the auto repair
    pads and then not taking off again? so one plane would stop the rest of
    your planes repairing themselves so your airforce soon gets destroyed..
    That really annoyed me..

    >
    > since I first got it I have changed from playing it at 640x480 to
    > 1280x1024, changed config files to go from a 250 unit limit to a 5000
    > unit limit, upgraded the maps and a few dlls to allow for huge
    > maps(initially limited to 25x25 units, now playing on 80x80).
    >
    > It is still essencially the same game, but well and truly playable on
    > lower systems, although not to the same extent.
    >
    > I've also scripted some of the group selections so that certain key
    > combos select certain groupings of units.
    >



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  11. Hmmm wrote:
    > Speaking of Totan annihilation, how did you increase the unit maxxes?


    ummm
    I think it is simply in an ini file in the install dir.
    a quick google suggests that it is called total.ini
    you can dowload a 500 limit one here.
    http://www.totalannihilation.com/totala/exes.html
    very bottom of the page.

    "UnitLimit = 200;" is the line you must edit... to whatever you like...
    CPU and Ram will still limit it though.

    > and also, did you have problems with planes landing on the auto repair
    > pads and then not taking off again? so one plane would stop the rest of
    > your planes repairing themselves so your airforce soon gets destroyed..
    > That really annoyed me..


    ummmm, pretty sute it was a patch, but not sure as it was a long time
    ago that I installed the last one.

    a change in AI can make an amazing difference to how you play... you can
    even make your own.

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    Dave - Dave.net.nz, Oct 20, 2004
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  12. On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 15:05:49 +1300, "Southern Kiwi"
    <southern_kiwi@*spamsucks*hotmail.com> wrote:

    >Ok, so how about min spec cpu of PIII 1000 or better.
    >That should open the field a bit...................


    You said all parts new. :)

    Last I checked the Socket 370 architecture was long gone..


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    Gisborne, New Zealand
    Kristofer Clayton, Oct 20, 2004
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  13. Southern Kiwi

    Blister Pak Guest

    Ping Hmmm

    Is that you old boy havnt seen you around since the old Ihug days mid
    1999 IIRC


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  14. It seems like Tue, 19 Oct 2004 08:36:56 GMT was when
    (Matthew Poole) said Blah blah blah...

    >*SNIP*
    >>128 video
    >>cpu....capable of playing some kick arse games

    >*SNIP*
    >
    >Sorry, there's over half your budget. If you want the CPU power and
    >video card to play recent games, you'll spend at least $500 on just
    >those two items.


    If you want a computer that can play games, perhaps an Xbox or PS2
    would suffice? Honestly, consoles are super awesome for playing games,
    especially the bit about them not crashing too often (I can't remember
    my PS2 crashing. Ever. In the 3 years owning it or so).
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    Waylon Kenning, Oct 22, 2004
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  15. It seems like Wed, 20 Oct 2004 15:13:42 +1300 was when "Dave -
    Dave.net.nz" <> said Blah blah blah...

    >I play total annihilation(C&C clone) which was a 1995 game, made to run
    >on a P75 with 16MB ram... it was and is a great game, and I think that
    >it kicks arse... but hey, each to their own.
    >
    >since I first got it I have changed from playing it at 640x480 to
    >1280x1024, changed config files to go from a 250 unit limit to a 5000
    >unit limit, upgraded the maps and a few dlls to allow for huge
    >maps(initially limited to 25x25 units, now playing on 80x80).
    >
    >It is still essencially the same game, but well and truly playable on
    >lower systems, although not to the same extent.
    >
    >I've also scripted some of the group selections so that certain key
    >combos select certain groupings of units.


    Did you ever see the great wars between alt.games.total-annihilation
    and alt.games.starcraft? Do you use TAUIP?
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    Waylon Kenning.

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    Waylon Kenning, Oct 22, 2004
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  16. Waylon Kenning wrote:
    > Did you ever see the great wars between alt.games.total-annihilation
    > and alt.games.starcraft? Do you use TAUIP?


    no, and what is it?

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    Dave - Dave.net.nz, Oct 22, 2004
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  17. It seems like Sat, 23 Oct 2004 07:59:48 +1300 was when "Dave -
    Dave.net.nz" <> said Blah blah blah...

    >> Did you ever see the great wars between alt.games.total-annihilation
    >> and alt.games.starcraft? Do you use TAUIP?

    >
    >no, and what is it?


    Expansion pack for TA, http://www.tadesigners.com/TAUIP/index.shtml

    There's probably been better expansion packs since, but I found this
    one of the better, had lots of units, and was quite well balanced.
    Weirdly enough, I still doing find playing TA as straight fun as SC,
    probably because of the lack of emotional element.
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    Waylon Kenning, Oct 22, 2004
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  18. In article <>,
    Waylon Kenning <> wrote:

    >Honestly, consoles are super awesome for playing games,
    >especially the bit about them not crashing too often (I can't remember
    >my PS2 crashing. Ever. In the 3 years owning it or so).


    I'm sure there would be bugs in its software somewhere. With anything
    beyond a certain level of complexity, it's inevitable. Heck, I found a
    bug in the controller program for my washing machine a little while
    back. Of course, I'd been using it for 12 years before I noticed...
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Oct 24, 2004
    #18
  19. It seems like Sun, 24 Oct 2004 23:33:37 +1300 was when Lawrence
    D'Oliveiro <_zealand> said Blah blah blah...

    >>Honestly, consoles are super awesome for playing games,
    >>especially the bit about them not crashing too often (I can't remember
    >>my PS2 crashing. Ever. In the 3 years owning it or so).

    >
    >I'm sure there would be bugs in its software somewhere. With anything
    >beyond a certain level of complexity, it's inevitable. Heck, I found a
    >bug in the controller program for my washing machine a little while
    >back. Of course, I'd been using it for 12 years before I noticed...


    Oh no doubt there's bugs in the software, it's just that consoles have
    the level of reliability I'd expect from a computer. However, I do
    know that most software released for the PC doesn't go through the
    same Quality Control process as software released for the PS2.

    What was the bug in your washing machine btw?
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    Waylon Kenning.

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    Waylon Kenning, Oct 24, 2004
    #19
  20. In article <>,
    Waylon Kenning <> wrote:

    >What was the bug in your washing machine btw?


    It's been a few months, so let me try and remember...

    It's when it finishes the final spin cycle, comes to a stop, and a few
    seconds later starts beeping to let me know everything is done. If I get
    to it just before the beeps and open the lid, that stops the cycle (in
    the spin part of the cycle, everything comes to a stop if the lid is
    opened). Then if I empty it out, put a new load in and try to start a
    new wash cycle without letting those last few seconds of the previous
    cycle finish, it does something strange, though I can't remember exactly
    what. Guess I'll have to try it again...
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Oct 27, 2004
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