Whether am called MCP or MCTS?

Discussion in 'MCTS' started by Suave Shiva, Jul 12, 2008.

  1. Suave Shiva

    Suave Shiva Guest

    After writing these two certifications 70-528 and 70-536,
    you will be called as MCP certified or MCTS certified?
    please let me know.......
    and also
    Which logo you are going to place in resumes?
    whether MCP or MCTS?
    Suave Shiva, Jul 12, 2008
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  2. Suave Shiva

    Denny Cherry Guest

    The MCTS includes the MCP, however the MCP is the more well known
    name. I usually tell people that I'm an MCP, and if they ask for more
    information I give them the list of certs which I hold (currently
    MCSA, MCDBA, MCTS (x3), MCITP (x2))

    Denny

    On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 07:43:00 -0700, Suave Shiva
    <> wrote:

    >
    >After writing these two certifications 70-528 and 70-536,
    >you will be called as MCP certified or MCTS certified?
    >please let me know.......
    >and also
    >Which logo you are going to place in resumes?
    >whether MCP or MCTS?
    Denny Cherry, Jul 13, 2008
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  3. What Denny Has Said Is correct.

    "Denny Cherry" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > The MCTS includes the MCP, however the MCP is the more well known
    > name. I usually tell people that I'm an MCP, and if they ask for more
    > information I give them the list of certs which I hold (currently
    > MCSA, MCDBA, MCTS (x3), MCITP (x2))
    >
    > Denny
    >
    > On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 07:43:00 -0700, Suave Shiva
    > <> wrote:
    >
    >>
    >>After writing these two certifications 70-528 and 70-536,
    >>you will be called as MCP certified or MCTS certified?
    >>please let me know.......
    >>and also
    >>Which logo you are going to place in resumes?
    >>whether MCP or MCTS?
    G.R Smith. CCNA | MCP | MCTSx1 | A+ | N, Jul 17, 2008
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  4. Suave Shiva

    John R Guest

    "G.R Smith. CCNA | MCP | MCTSx1 | A+ | N" <> wrote
    in message news:...
    > What Denny Has Said Is correct.
    >
    > "Denny Cherry" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >> The MCTS includes the MCP, however the MCP is the more well known
    >> name. I usually tell people that I'm an MCP, and if they ask for more
    >> information I give them the list of certs which I hold (currently
    >> MCSA, MCDBA, MCTS (x3), MCITP (x2))
    >>
    >> Denny
    >>


    I may be mistaken, but I was of the opinion that MCP and MCTS are mutually
    exclusive. You can certainly be both at the same time, but they are for
    different things. MCTS is for the new generation of certifications, MCP is
    all of the prior. MCP is for life, MCTS will expire when mainstream support
    for the technology expires. For example, if you are MCTS in Vista
    configuration, when mainstream support for Vista is dropped, the MCTS will
    be expired. However, if you have MCP from say one of the NT or 2000 exams
    (both of which have dropped mainstream support), you are still an MCP.

    John R
    John R, Jul 18, 2008
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  5. Suave Shiva

    Denny Cherry Guest

    MCP is given upon completion of any Microsoft certification with the
    exception of a couple of the Office certifications.

    On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:56:29 -0400, "John R"
    <jsr^^^813@zoom^^^internet.net> wrote:

    >
    >"G.R Smith. CCNA | MCP | MCTSx1 | A+ | N" <> wrote
    >in message news:...
    >> What Denny Has Said Is correct.
    >>
    >> "Denny Cherry" <> wrote in message
    >> news:...
    >>> The MCTS includes the MCP, however the MCP is the more well known
    >>> name. I usually tell people that I'm an MCP, and if they ask for more
    >>> information I give them the list of certs which I hold (currently
    >>> MCSA, MCDBA, MCTS (x3), MCITP (x2))
    >>>
    >>> Denny
    >>>

    >
    >I may be mistaken, but I was of the opinion that MCP and MCTS are mutually
    >exclusive. You can certainly be both at the same time, but they are for
    >different things. MCTS is for the new generation of certifications, MCP is
    >all of the prior. MCP is for life, MCTS will expire when mainstream support
    >for the technology expires. For example, if you are MCTS in Vista
    >configuration, when mainstream support for Vista is dropped, the MCTS will
    >be expired. However, if you have MCP from say one of the NT or 2000 exams
    >(both of which have dropped mainstream support), you are still an MCP.
    >
    >John R
    >
    Denny Cherry, Jul 18, 2008
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  6. Suave Shiva

    John R Guest

    "Denny Cherry" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > MCP is given upon completion of any Microsoft certification with the
    > exception of a couple of the Office certifications.
    >


    Well, Trika would differ with that statement. The following is from her
    blog and I tend to believe her...
    Are you a Microsoft Certified Professional (MCP) if you earn a Microsoft
    Certified Technology Specialist (MCTS)?

    a.. Yes, in that you become part of the Microsoft Certified Professional
    community, with access to the MCP site, benefits (Knowledge Base, etc).
    b.. No, in that you do not earn a credential called "MCP."
    http://blogs.msdn.com/trika/archive/2008/01/09/so-an-mcp-and-an-mcts-walk-in-to-a-bar.aspx

    John R
    John R, Jul 18, 2008
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  7. Suave Shiva

    Denny Cherry Guest

    Humm,

    According to the Microsoft web page
    (http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcp/requirements.mspx)
    "Microsoft Certified Professional (MCP) candidates are required to
    pass one current Microsoft Certification exam* that provides a valid
    and reliable measure of technical proficiency and expertise.". I'm
    thinking that someone may need to correct the Microsoft site.

    The * means "A current exam is any exam that has not been retired."

    Denny

    On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:05:40 -0400, "John R"
    <jsr^^^813@zoom^^^internet.net> wrote:

    >
    >"Denny Cherry" <> wrote in message
    >news:...
    >> MCP is given upon completion of any Microsoft certification with the
    >> exception of a couple of the Office certifications.
    >>

    >
    >Well, Trika would differ with that statement. The following is from her
    >blog and I tend to believe her...
    >Are you a Microsoft Certified Professional (MCP) if you earn a Microsoft
    >Certified Technology Specialist (MCTS)?
    >
    > a.. Yes, in that you become part of the Microsoft Certified Professional
    >community, with access to the MCP site, benefits (Knowledge Base, etc).
    > b.. No, in that you do not earn a credential called "MCP."
    >http://blogs.msdn.com/trika/archive/2008/01/09/so-an-mcp-and-an-mcts-walk-in-to-a-bar.aspx
    >
    >John R
    >
    Denny Cherry, Jul 21, 2008
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  8. Suave Shiva

    John R Guest

    "Denny Cherry" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Humm,
    >
    > According to the Microsoft web page
    > (http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcp/requirements.mspx)
    > "Microsoft Certified Professional (MCP) candidates are required to
    > pass one current Microsoft Certification exam* that provides a valid
    > and reliable measure of technical proficiency and expertise.". I'm
    > thinking that someone may need to correct the Microsoft site.
    >
    > The * means "A current exam is any exam that has not been retired."
    >


    Yes, it does say that. And, if you had actually read the entire page I
    quoted, you would have seen that the phrase you quote is outdated content
    that will be updated sometime, but (apparently) not any time soon as that
    was pointed out to Trika in the 1st qtr 2008 and has yet to be updated.

    MCP is not going forward any more. For Vista, Server 2008, related products
    and beyond, MCP will not be issued. Certified individuals will still
    receive an MCPID, as well as access to the MCP site, but not a cert called
    "MCP".

    John R
    John R, Jul 21, 2008
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  9. "Suave Shiva" <> wrote in message
    news:D...
    >
    > After writing these two certifications 70-528 and 70-536,
    > you will be called as MCP certified or MCTS certified?
    > please let me know.......
    > and also
    > Which logo you are going to place in resumes?
    > whether MCP or MCTS?


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