What with all the ms updates?

Discussion in 'Computer Information' started by Dale, Oct 28, 2003.

  1. Dale

    Dale Guest

    For the last several days I've been getting automatic updates from MS why
    the sudden surge?

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    Dale, Oct 28, 2003
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  2. Dale

    JimBob Guest

    Dale wrote:

    > For the last several days I've been getting automatic updates from MS why
    > the sudden surge?
    >


    Yo Dale,

    You are really lucky ! Most of us have be deluged with them for weeks
    now. By the by, delete them as soon as you seem them, they are viruses
    and have nothing what-so-ever to do with Microsoft.

    JimBob
     
    JimBob, Oct 28, 2003
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  3. Dale

    Dale Guest

    Jim, I wasn't lucky I got flooded too. These are the automatic updates.
    Microsoft contacts my computer and downloads the updates then asked me if I
    want to install them. I haven't heard of a worm or virus that works this
    way. I've view them before installing and they are from Microsoft. I was
    just curious as the why all the sudden they decided to do this.

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    "JimBob" <.> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Dale wrote:
    >
    > > For the last several days I've been getting automatic updates from MS

    why
    > > the sudden surge?
    > >

    >
    > Yo Dale,
    >
    > You are really lucky ! Most of us have be deluged with them for weeks
    > now. By the by, delete them as soon as you seem them, they are viruses
    > and have nothing what-so-ever to do with Microsoft.
    >
    > JimBob
    >
     
    Dale, Oct 28, 2003
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  4. Dale

    Guest

    On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 17:18:49 -0500, JimBob
    <.> wrote:

    >Dale wrote:
    >
    >> For the last several days I've been getting automatic updates from MS why
    >> the sudden surge?
    >>

    >
    >Yo Dale,
    >
    >You are really lucky ! Most of us have be deluged with them for weeks
    >now. By the by, delete them as soon as you seem them, they are viruses
    >and have nothing what-so-ever to do with Microsoft.
    >
    >JimBob


    If he is talking about e-mail, you are correct. If he is talking about
    auto-notify in his system tray, they are real updates. And they are a
    royal pain to download with a modem. I skip all the ones that are
    related to sound, video, or networks.

    Roy - Carpe Noctem
     
    , Oct 28, 2003
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  5. Dale

    JimBob Guest

    wrote:
    > On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 17:18:49 -0500, JimBob
    > <.> wrote:
    >
    >
    >>Dale wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>>For the last several days I've been getting automatic updates from MS why
    >>>the sudden surge?
    >>>

    >>
    >>Yo Dale,
    >>
    >>You are really lucky ! Most of us have be deluged with them for weeks
    >>now. By the by, delete them as soon as you seem them, they are viruses
    >>and have nothing what-so-ever to do with Microsoft.
    >>
    >>JimBob

    >
    >
    > If he is talking about e-mail, you are correct. If he is talking about
    > auto-notify in his system tray, they are real updates. And they are a
    > royal pain to download with a modem. I skip all the ones that are
    > related to sound, video, or networks.
    >
    > Roy - Carpe Noctem


    Whoops,

    I quit using IE years ago and hide behide a router and use Mozilla for a
    browser so I never see anything other than the e-mail viruses. I gotta
    start seeing the bigger picture before I post responses. I posted
    another lemon today in another group, might be time to get away from
    this machine for awhile !!!!

    JimBob
     
    JimBob, Oct 28, 2003
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  6. Dale

    bodfish Guest

    Dale <> wrote in message
    news:3wvnb.7339$...
    > For the last several days I've been getting automatic updates from MS why
    > the sudden surge?
    >


    Because they *can*, that's why. Like the dog that licks............(you
    know). Anyway, MS OS are such a pain to use because you have to upgrade
    every few hours or suffer the humility of not being Kool..........They have
    holes, leaks, security issues, and........an unstated monopoly on novice
    users.
     
    bodfish, Oct 29, 2003
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  7. Dale

    Night_Seer Guest

    bodfish wrote:
    > Dale <> wrote in message
    > news:3wvnb.7339$...
    >> For the last several days I've been getting automatic updates from
    >> MS why the sudden surge?
    >>

    >
    > Because they *can*, that's why. Like the dog that
    > licks............(you know). Anyway, MS OS are such a pain to use
    > because you have to upgrade every few hours or suffer the humility of
    > not being Kool..........They have holes, leaks, security issues,
    > and........an unstated monopoly on novice users.


    Just think...in the future they will be rolling all their updates to
    once a month, so when you do get an update, its going to be big, and
    outdated. Suppose a blaster worm hits on the first of the month...are
    they going to wait to patch it till the end of the month?

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    Night_Seer, Oct 29, 2003
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  8. Dale

    DeMoN LaG Guest

    JimBob <.> wrote in news:n6adnTSDL71zZgOiRVn-
    :

    > I quit using IE years ago and hide behide a router and use Mozilla for a
    > browser so I never see anything other than the e-mail viruses. I gotta


    This is all /complelely/ irrelevant to Windows Auto-Notify. I am behind a
    router, use Firebird for a browser, and none of that matters. Unless you
    have disabled it, there is a little component of Windows that occasionally
    checks with MS if there are any new Critical Updates (note: CRITICAL
    UPDATES, not driver updates, not Recommended updates, nothing except for
    CRITICAL UPDATES!), and if there is, it puts a little windows thing in your
    system tray letting you know to download/install them (Depending on how you
    have it set, it may do all of this automatically). The browser, network
    configuration (provided there is internet access) and such make no
    difference what so ever.

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    DeMoN LaG, Oct 29, 2003
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  9. Dale

    DeMoN LaG Guest

    "bodfish" <> wrote in news:vpu18mk9p33bc0
    @corp.supernews.com:

    > They have
    > holes, leaks, security issues, and........an unstated monopoly on novice
    > users.
    >


    *cough*
    X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
    X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200
    X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200

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    DeMoN LaG, Oct 29, 2003
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  10. Dale

    bodfish Guest

    DeMoN LaG <n@a> wrote in message news:Xns9422EC80E41F4Wobbly@216.168.3.30...
    > *cough*



    Of course, what else? I installed Firebird and Mozilla with bad experience.
    I couldn't even get Firebird to take a password for my ISP. Is this a
    typical flaw? It's not that I want to use MS, it's that everything else is
    such a pain in the..........
     
    bodfish, Oct 29, 2003
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  11. Dale

    Night_Seer Guest

    bodfish wrote:
    > DeMoN LaG <n@a> wrote in message
    > news:Xns9422EC80E41F4Wobbly@216.168.3.30...
    >> *cough*

    >
    >
    > Of course, what else? I installed Firebird and Mozilla with bad
    > experience. I couldn't even get Firebird to take a password for my
    > ISP. Is this a typical flaw? It's not that I want to use MS, it's
    > that everything else is such a pain in the..........


    I use firebird and thunderbird exclusively now...maybe the newest
    versions will solve your problems. They pretty much make a folder and
    run, no installation necessary. If it doesn't work, delete it.

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    Night_Seer, Oct 29, 2003
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  12. Dale

    bodfish Guest

    Night_Seer <ecamacho4 at hotmail dot com> wrote in message
    news:...
    > I use firebird and thunderbird exclusively now...maybe the newest
    > versions will solve your problems. They pretty much make a folder and
    > run, no installation necessary. If it doesn't work, delete it.
    >


    I did all that. Unzipped in a new folder. The problem was there was a screen
    to take my password and user log on, but the radio buttons wouldn't work. I
    used the newest build, too........Anyway, I'm leaning to getting Win lite
    and buying Opera right now. I haven't updated Win98SE in 3 years!
     
    bodfish, Oct 29, 2003
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  13. Dale

    Night_Seer Guest

    bodfish wrote:
    > Night_Seer <ecamacho4 at hotmail dot com> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >> I use firebird and thunderbird exclusively now...maybe the newest
    >> versions will solve your problems. They pretty much make a folder
    >> and run, no installation necessary. If it doesn't work, delete it.
    >>

    >
    > I did all that. Unzipped in a new folder. The problem was there was a
    > screen to take my password and user log on, but the radio buttons
    > wouldn't work. I used the newest build, too........Anyway, I'm
    > leaning to getting Win lite and buying Opera right now. I haven't
    > updated Win98SE in 3 years!


    Opera is really nice too...has pretty much all the bases covered,
    but is a little slower because of all of that overhead. I would still
    recommend it though. What site are you trying to get on BTW? Maybe I
    can check it here.

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    Night_Seer, Oct 29, 2003
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  14. Night_Seer wrote:
    > bodfish wrote:
    >
    >>DeMoN LaG <n@a> wrote in message
    >>news:Xns9422EC80E41F4Wobbly@216.168.3.30...
    >>
    >>>*cough*

    >>
    >>
    >>Of course, what else? I installed Firebird and Mozilla with bad
    >>experience. I couldn't even get Firebird to take a password for my
    >>ISP. Is this a typical flaw? It's not that I want to use MS, it's
    >>that everything else is such a pain in the..........

    >
    >
    > I use firebird and thunderbird exclusively now...maybe the newest
    > versions will solve your problems. They pretty much make a folder and
    > run, no installation necessary. If it doesn't work, delete it.
    >

    And if the latest version doesn't work you can always fall back to an
    older one-even NS 4.7 is better than IE6 IMO. (And NS 7.1 or Moz 1.4
    *certainly* is.)
     
    Calvin Crumrine, Oct 29, 2003
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  15. Dale

    DeMoN LaG Guest

    "bodfish" <> wrote in
    news::

    > Of course, what else? I installed Firebird and Mozilla with bad
    > experience. I couldn't even get Firebird to take a password for my
    > ISP. Is this a typical flaw? It's not that I want to use MS, it's that
    > everything else is such a pain in the..........
    >


    Firebird does not have any mail/news capabilities, maybe this is why it
    wouldn't take your password?

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    DeMoN LaG, Oct 30, 2003
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  16. Dale

    Mr. Majestik Guest

    DeMoN LaG <n@a> wrote in message news:Xns9423E76A431C7Wobbly@216.168.3.30...
    > Firebird does not have any mail/news capabilities, maybe this is why it
    > wouldn't take your password?
    >


    You still have to log on to your ISP to browse, don't you? Maybe
    not...........*cough*
     
    Mr. Majestik, Oct 30, 2003
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  17. Dale

    Oldus Fartus Guest

    In news:,
    Mr. Majestik <> wrote these words:

    | DeMoN LaG <n@a> wrote in message
    | news:Xns9423E76A431C7Wobbly@216.168.3.30...
    || Firebird does not have any mail/news capabilities, maybe this is why
    || it wouldn't take your password?
    ||
    |
    | You still have to log on to your ISP to browse, don't you? Maybe
    | not...........*cough*

    Not with your web-browser you don't..........*double cough*

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    Oldus Fartus, Oct 30, 2003
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  18. Dale

    DeMoN LaG Guest

    "Mr. Majestik" <> wrote in
    news::

    > You still have to log on to your ISP to browse, don't you? Maybe
    > not...........*cough*


    Since I am on cable, I have no logging in. When I was on dial up, I dialed
    and logged in using Windows' built in Dial Up Networking.

    Have you tried dialing up using Dial Up Networking? Firebird is a browser,
    not an operating system, not a networking program, all it does is browse
    the web.

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    DeMoN LaG, Oct 30, 2003
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  19. Dale

    Mr. Majestik Guest

    DeMoN LaG <n@a> wrote in message news:Xns9424835EC6F9Wobbly@216.168.3.30...
    > Have you tried dialing up using Dial Up Networking? Firebird is a

    browser,
    > not an operating system, not a networking program, all it does is browse
    > the web.
    >


    OK, got all that. Went back to the Mozilla site and checked. Sure enough, it
    was the mail prog I DL..............and then I said, OK, let's go for it. I
    dL the whole enchilada, Mozilla 1.5. It installed fine, and works fine, NG
    and mail, too. The reason I'm not using it is I can't figure out how to
    change the home page to google (rather than Mozilla). It has some other
    quirks I'm trying to figure out right now. I'm also playing with
    Pegasus........Thanks for the red ass:)
     
    Mr. Majestik, Oct 30, 2003
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  20. Dale

    DeMoN LaG Guest

    "Mr. Majestik" <> wrote in
    news::

    > OK, got all that. Went back to the Mozilla site and checked. Sure
    > enough, it was the mail prog I DL..............and then I said, OK,
    > let's go for it. I dL the whole enchilada, Mozilla 1.5. It installed
    > fine, and works fine, NG and mail, too. The reason I'm not using it is
    > I can't figure out how to change the home page to google (rather than


    Go to google.com. Drag the little thing on the lefthand side of the URL
    bar to the "Home" button. Say OK. Or, Edit, Preferences, Change the start
    page.....

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    DeMoN LaG, Oct 30, 2003
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