WEb Designer thinking of getting ontothe Back Bone

Discussion in 'NZ Computing' started by peter, Sep 16, 2004.

  1. peter

    peter Guest

    Hi

    I am a web designer who interacts with plenty of people who need URL. As we
    all know it cost something like $20.00 to $80.00 to house a web and have
    your URL pointed to your site. As well all also know someone making a
    killing charging this. To help my clients save I am thinking of getting a
    computer connected to the back bone. And then pointing my clients URLS to my
    computer.


    How do I do this?


    And what sort of programs do I need to do all this pointing a Web housing?

    Cheers Peter...

    P.S. Im new to all this so please forgive an error..
    peter, Sep 16, 2004
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  2. "peter" <> wrote in message
    news:rd92d.3033$...
    > I am a web designer who interacts with plenty of people who need URL. As
    > we all know it cost something like $20.00 to $80.00 to house a web and
    > have your URL pointed to your site. As well all also know someone making a
    > killing charging this. To help my clients save I am thinking of getting a
    > computer connected to the back bone. And then pointing my clients URLS to
    > my computer.


    If they are already your clients, I recommend trying to hold on to them by
    offering superior service and support rather than trying to undercut the
    competition. In the web hosting industry there will always be someone
    offering hosting for less than you can.

    > How do I do this?


    Easily. Just get yourself a permanent connection (if you ask ihug or any of
    the other big isps they will be able to help you out) and a decent server.
    If you are talking about telehousing (it is unclear from your post) instead
    of doing everything yourself then most isps will be able to help you with
    that too :).

    > And what sort of programs do I need to do all this pointing a Web housing?


    Linux or BSD. Most distributions of either come with all the software you
    will need to do pretty much anything related to hosting web sites. If you
    have not used either before then I recommend that you hire someone at least
    to do the initial setup since you will very quickly lose customers if things
    do not work correctly.

    Andrew Bryson
    http://www.bryson.co.nz
    Andrew Bryson, Sep 16, 2004
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  3. peter

    Chris Hope Guest

    peter wrote:

    > I am a web designer who interacts with plenty of people who need URL. As
    > we all know it cost something like $20.00 to $80.00 to house a web and
    > have your URL pointed to your site. As well all also know someone making a
    > killing charging this. To help my clients save I am thinking of getting a
    > computer connected to the back bone. And then pointing my clients URLS to
    > my computer.


    If you're totally new to hosting sites on a server then it's probably better
    to let experienced people manage your hosting for you to ensure you have a
    machine that's up 24x7 and not vulnerable to security attacks, and that has
    a help desk that's available should anything go wrong.

    If you're trying to cut down on the cost then there are several alternatives
    where you lease a dedicated server which is managed by the hosting company
    for you, or use a plan like that offered by Web Drive
    http://www.webdrive.co.nz/pricing.php where you pay a base rate then a rate
    per additional site and can onbill your customers however you see fit. They
    have two plans 1) $30 per month for one site + $8 per month per additional
    site, or 2) $60 per month for one site + $4 per month per additional site.

    (I don't work for Web Drive, by the way, but I recently sold a web hosting
    business to them, and they are excellent web hosting providers).

    There are many companies in NZ, US and worldwide who offer excellent prices
    on managed and dedicated servers. Type dedicated servers into Google and
    you'll get a whole bunch of them.

    --
    Chris Hope - The Electric Toolbox - http://www.electrictoolbox.com/
    Chris Hope, Sep 16, 2004
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  4. peter wrote:
    > How do I do this?


    This is gonna make me sound like an arse... but if you dont know, you
    shouldn't be doing it as a business.

    > And what sort of programs do I need to do all this pointing a Web housing?


    practically any Linux distro will do it out of the box.

    > P.S. Im new to all this so please forgive an error..


    no worries... but I would recommend reselling someone elses service
    first to get your head around it a bit better.
    Iserve offer this I believe.

    --
    Dave Hall
    http://www.dave.net.nz
    Dave - Dave.net.nz, Sep 16, 2004
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  5. peter

    peter Guest

    Thx Dave
    Its all good advice.... You could say Im planning a head. I found the post
    just after this one rather interesting..

    see: NZ Web Hosting

    "Dave - Dave.net.nz" <dave@no_spam_here_dave.net.nz> wrote in message
    news:...
    > peter wrote:
    >> How do I do this?

    >
    > This is gonna make me sound like an arse... but if you dont know, you
    > shouldn't be doing it as a business.
    >
    >> And what sort of programs do I need to do all this pointing a Web
    >> housing?

    >
    > practically any Linux distro will do it out of the box.
    >
    >> P.S. Im new to all this so please forgive an error..

    >
    > no worries... but I would recommend reselling someone elses service first
    > to get your head around it a bit better.
    > Iserve offer this I believe.
    >
    > --
    > Dave Hall
    > http://www.dave.net.nz
    peter, Sep 16, 2004
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  6. peter

    Enkidu Guest

    Yeah, just make sure that they aren't hosting stuff using ADSL!

    Cheers,

    Cliff

    On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 18:16:37 +1200, "peter" <>
    wrote:

    >Thx Dave
    >Its all good advice.... You could say Im planning a head. I found the post
    >just after this one rather interesting..
    >
    >see: NZ Web Hosting
    >
    >"Dave - Dave.net.nz" <dave@no_spam_here_dave.net.nz> wrote in message
    >news:...
    >> peter wrote:
    >>> How do I do this?

    >>
    >> This is gonna make me sound like an arse... but if you dont know, you
    >> shouldn't be doing it as a business.
    >>
    >>> And what sort of programs do I need to do all this pointing a Web
    >>> housing?

    >>
    >> practically any Linux distro will do it out of the box.
    >>
    >>> P.S. Im new to all this so please forgive an error..

    >>
    >> no worries... but I would recommend reselling someone elses service first
    >> to get your head around it a bit better.
    >> Iserve offer this I believe.
    >>
    >> --
    >> Dave Hall
    >> http://www.dave.net.nz

    >
    Enkidu, Sep 16, 2004
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  7. peter

    Rob Guest

    "peter" <> wrote in message news:<rd92d.3033$>...
    > Hi
    >
    > I am a web designer who interacts with plenty of people who need URL. As we
    > all know it cost something like $20.00 to $80.00 to house a web and have
    > your URL pointed to your site. As well all also know someone making a
    > killing charging this. To help my clients save I am thinking of getting a
    > computer connected to the back bone. And then pointing my clients URLS to my
    > computer.


    Development: Yes
    Production: No

    In my experience, being the one-stop shop means being the single point
    of failure too. If you're happy to get a call at 2am because your
    server has died, then by all means, host it yourself.

    You will also be responsible for maintaining the box and making sure
    it doesn't get Slashdotted etc etc - that means security, both
    physical and virtual.

    Choosing a specialist hosting company means someone else looks after
    all this and you can sleep easy at night. If I were you, I'd look at
    the web hosters around NZ and see what reseller deals they have.
    Rob, Sep 17, 2004
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  8. In article <> in nz.comp
    on 16 Sep 2004 21:37:31 -0700, Rob <> says...
    > "peter" <> wrote in message news:<rd92d.3033$>...
    > > Hi
    > >
    > > I am a web designer who interacts with plenty of people who need URL. As we
    > > all know it cost something like $20.00 to $80.00 to house a web and have
    > > your URL pointed to your site. As well all also know someone making a
    > > killing charging this. To help my clients save I am thinking of getting a
    > > computer connected to the back bone. And then pointing my clients URLS to my
    > > computer.

    >
    > Development: Yes
    > Production: No
    >
    > In my experience, being the one-stop shop means being the single point
    > of failure too. If you're happy to get a call at 2am because your
    > server has died, then by all means, host it yourself.
    >
    > You will also be responsible for maintaining the box and making sure
    > it doesn't get Slashdotted etc etc - that means security, both
    > physical and virtual.
    >
    > Choosing a specialist hosting company means someone else looks after
    > all this and you can sleep easy at night. If I were you, I'd look at
    > the web hosters around NZ and see what reseller deals they have.


    Or offer telehousing for your customers.
    Patrick Dunford, Sep 17, 2004
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  9. In article <>,
    Enkidu <> wrote:

    >Yeah, just make sure that they aren't hosting stuff using ADSL!


    If you're in a major metropolitan CBD, you could get flat-rate ADSL from
    TelstraClear. I have a client in Hamilton running exactly that.
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Sep 17, 2004
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  10. peter

    Enkidu Guest

    On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 18:50:33 +1200, Lawrence D'Oliveiro
    <_zealand> wrote:

    >In article <>,
    > Enkidu <> wrote:
    >
    >>Yeah, just make sure that they aren't hosting stuff using ADSL!

    >
    >If you're in a major metropolitan CBD, you could get flat-rate ADSL from
    >TelstraClear. I have a client in Hamilton running exactly that.
    >

    Sure, but that was a hosting service!

    Cheers,

    Cliff
    Enkidu, Sep 17, 2004
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  11. In article <>,
    Enkidu <> wrote:

    >On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 18:50:33 +1200, Lawrence D'Oliveiro
    ><_zealand> wrote:
    >
    >>In article <>,
    >> Enkidu <> wrote:
    >>
    >>>Yeah, just make sure that they aren't hosting stuff using ADSL!

    >>
    >>If you're in a major metropolitan CBD, you could get flat-rate ADSL from
    >>TelstraClear. I have a client in Hamilton running exactly that.
    >>

    >Sure, but that was a hosting service!


    Bandwidth is bandwidth.
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Sep 17, 2004
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  12. peter

    theseus Guest

    "Lawrence D'Oliveiro" <_zealand> wrote in message
    news:...
    > In article <>,
    > Enkidu <> wrote:
    >
    >>On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 18:50:33 +1200, Lawrence D'Oliveiro
    >><_zealand> wrote:
    >>
    >>>In article <>,
    >>> Enkidu <> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>Yeah, just make sure that they aren't hosting stuff using ADSL!
    >>>
    >>>If you're in a major metropolitan CBD, you could get flat-rate ADSL from
    >>>TelstraClear. I have a client in Hamilton running exactly that.
    >>>

    >>Sure, but that was a hosting service!

    >
    > Bandwidth is bandwidth.


    kB/s or Hz ? ;-)
    theseus, Sep 17, 2004
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  13. Re: Web Designer thinking of getting onto the BackBone

    In article <1RI2d.4008$>,
    "theseus" <> wrote:

    >"Lawrence D'Oliveiro" <_zealand> wrote in message
    >news:...
    >> In article <>,
    >> Enkidu <> wrote:
    >>
    >>>On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 18:50:33 +1200, Lawrence D'Oliveiro
    >>><_zealand> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>In article <>,
    >>>> Enkidu <> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>>Yeah, just make sure that they aren't hosting stuff using ADSL!
    >>>>
    >>>>If you're in a major metropolitan CBD, you could get flat-rate ADSL from
    >>>>TelstraClear. I have a client in Hamilton running exactly that.
    >>>>
    >>>Sure, but that was a hosting service!

    >>
    >> Bandwidth is bandwidth.

    >
    >kB/s or Hz ? ;-)


    Depends on what you think your hosting service will be providing,
    doesn't it?
    Lawrence D¹Oliveiro, Sep 19, 2004
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  14. peter

    Rob Guest

    Patrick Dunford <> wrote in message news:<>...
    > In article <> in nz.comp
    > on 16 Sep 2004 21:37:31 -0700, Rob <> says...
    > > "peter" <> wrote in message news:<rd92d.3033$>...
    > > > Hi
    > > >
    > > > I am a web designer who interacts with plenty of people who need URL. As we
    > > > all know it cost something like $20.00 to $80.00 to house a web and have
    > > > your URL pointed to your site. As well all also know someone making a
    > > > killing charging this. To help my clients save I am thinking of getting a
    > > > computer connected to the back bone. And then pointing my clients URLS to my
    > > > computer.

    > >
    > > Development: Yes
    > > Production: No
    > >
    > > In my experience, being the one-stop shop means being the single point
    > > of failure too. If you're happy to get a call at 2am because your
    > > server has died, then by all means, host it yourself.
    > >
    > > You will also be responsible for maintaining the box and making sure
    > > it doesn't get Slashdotted etc etc - that means security, both
    > > physical and virtual.
    > >
    > > Choosing a specialist hosting company means someone else looks after
    > > all this and you can sleep easy at night. If I were you, I'd look at
    > > the web hosters around NZ and see what reseller deals they have.

    >
    > Or offer telehousing for your customers.


    That too.
    Rob, Sep 21, 2004
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