VPN Providers

Discussion in 'NZ Computing' started by Scott, May 11, 2004.

  1. Scott

    Scott Guest

    Hi

    We currently have a dedicated frame relay between Auckland and Wellington. I
    would like to see if a dedicated VPN would work for us and if it is a
    cheaper option.

    Our jetstream connection comes into our Auckland office and is routed to
    Wellington through a Linux pc which allows our Wellington branch to access
    email and the net. Mdaemon runs on our WinNT server and collects our mail
    from our isp and distributes.

    Our application and server access is over the frame relay.

    As I understand it for a vpn to work I need to setup a separate jetstream
    connection in our Wellington branch, get a fixed ip on the server and away
    we go.

    My concern is we suffer a lot of micro outages from our current js
    connection. Quite common for us to need to reset our router in the morning
    and after the weekend.

    How secure is a vpn? what firewall provisions do we need to put in place?

    Woosh is not an option because no coverage in Wgtn for our office there.

    Can anyone recommend a firm that specialises in vpn setup and can keep the
    explanation simple and willing to make an onsite appraisal? preferably with
    a contact in Wellington who can handle the install that end.

    Still waiting to hear from Telecom's 'Office Connect'.
    Scott, May 11, 2004
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  2. Scott wrote:
    > My concern is we suffer a lot of micro outages from our current js
    > connection. Quite common for us to need to reset our router in the morning
    > and after the weekend.


    While resetting the router isn't a common problem for us, outages are.
    In addition to micro-outages, in recent times we have had at least two
    whole days without ADSL access in Auckland due to line problems and
    Telecom stupidity. "Best effort" is really "We'll fix it when we get
    around to it".

    Right now, we are having small outages for a period of a few minutes at
    a time, probably due to the bad weather (Yes, weather is a common
    problem with ADSL).

    So, my advise is, stick with frame relay. Actually, go one step further
    and replace your ADSL Internet connection with a second frame relay
    connection.

    The Other Guy
    The Other Guy, May 12, 2004
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  3. Scott wrote:
    > Woosh is not an option because no coverage in Wgtn for our office there.


    Woosh could be an option for the Auckland office, no need to have the
    same type of connection in both places...
    Dave - Dave.net.nz, May 12, 2004
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  4. Scott

    brundlefly Guest

    "Dave - Dave.net.nz" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Scott wrote:
    > > Woosh is not an option because no coverage in Wgtn for our office there.

    >
    > Woosh could be an option for the Auckland office, no need to have the
    > same type of connection in both places...


    Would citylink be an option ?
    http://www.citylink.co.nz/
    http://www.citylink.co.nz/services/hardware/router.html
    They supply connections in Auckland and Wellington CBD
    Asterisk do VPN according to their page
    http://www.asterisk.co.nz/vpn.php
    I have no connection to either except as a citylink user..
    brundlefly, May 12, 2004
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  5. Scott

    DaveG Guest

    Scott wrote:
    > Hi
    >
    > We currently have a dedicated frame relay between Auckland and Wellington. I
    > would like to see if a dedicated VPN would work for us and if it is a
    > cheaper option.



    If you're technically inclined, OpenVPN is an excellent GPL'd VPN app.
    Very configurable, uses SSL encryption and works like a charm. I use it
    for all manner of remote access and with a fast connection you can
    browse server shares etc.

    Dave
    DaveG, May 12, 2004
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  6. Scott

    steve Guest

    Scott wrote:

    > Can anyone recommend a firm that specialises in vpn setup and can keep the
    > explanation simple and willing to make an onsite appraisal? preferably with
    > a contact in Wellington who can handle the install that end.


    AT&T - offices in Auckland and Wellington. They have a VPN offering
    that is basically plug & play.
    steve, May 12, 2004
    #6
  7. Scott

    Don Gould Guest

    You haven't told us what speed the frame runs at.

    You haven't told us where you're located.

    CityLink would be worth talking to.

    Providing you can get a good stable net connection then VPN is very good.

    I never have any real problems with ADSL but you do need to look at what
    data rate you're getting on your link. If you're to far away from an
    exchange then you're going to get a slower speed.

    You also need to look at how the router is wired in. I set up a site
    recently and discovered there's more than one way of doing things wrong :)

    There's going to be more and more FUD around ADSL as more and more
    businesses wake up and realise what they can do with it.

    While the Business JetStream may not come with an SLA you can still
    expect a level of service.

    Give consideration to Telecoms stated direction at present - hint.

    HTH

    Cheers Don

    Scott wrote:

    > Hi
    >
    > We currently have a dedicated frame relay between Auckland and Wellington. I
    > would like to see if a dedicated VPN would work for us and if it is a
    > cheaper option.
    >
    > Our jetstream connection comes into our Auckland office and is routed to
    > Wellington through a Linux pc which allows our Wellington branch to access
    > email and the net. Mdaemon runs on our WinNT server and collects our mail
    > from our isp and distributes.
    >
    > Our application and server access is over the frame relay.
    >
    > As I understand it for a vpn to work I need to setup a separate jetstream
    > connection in our Wellington branch, get a fixed ip on the server and away
    > we go.
    >
    > My concern is we suffer a lot of micro outages from our current js
    > connection. Quite common for us to need to reset our router in the morning
    > and after the weekend.
    >
    > How secure is a vpn? what firewall provisions do we need to put in place?
    >
    > Woosh is not an option because no coverage in Wgtn for our office there.
    >
    > Can anyone recommend a firm that specialises in vpn setup and can keep the
    > explanation simple and willing to make an onsite appraisal? preferably with
    > a contact in Wellington who can handle the install that end.
    >
    > Still waiting to hear from Telecom's 'Office Connect'.
    >
    >
    Don Gould, May 12, 2004
    #7
  8. Scott

    Enkidu Guest

    On Wed, 12 May 2004 12:59:41 +1200, steve
    <> wrote:

    >Scott wrote:
    >
    >> Can anyone recommend a firm that specialises in vpn setup and can keep the
    >> explanation simple and willing to make an onsite appraisal? preferably with
    >> a contact in Wellington who can handle the install that end.

    >
    >AT&T - offices in Auckland and Wellington. They have a VPN offering
    >that is basically plug & play.
    >

    You mean plug and pay, Steve

    Cheers,

    Cliff
    Enkidu, May 12, 2004
    #8
  9. Scott

    Enkidu Guest

    On Wed, 12 May 2004 10:17:40 +1200, "Scott" <> wrote:
    >
    >My concern is we suffer a lot of micro outages from our current js
    >connection. Quite common for us to need to reset our router in the morning
    >and after the weekend.
    >

    Well, that's Auckland for you. Like someone else says, use something
    else in Auckland. Talk to CityLink. They are good value.

    Cheers,

    Cliff
    Enkidu, May 12, 2004
    #9
  10. Scott

    bigmouth Guest

    Our travel agency deals with Millennium Computer Services in Wellington. We
    use Mdaemon for email and have a Nortel box which provides a VPN to Denver.
    (04)473 5822 although we use an 0800 number to contact them but I don't want
    to put that number in a news group.

    I bags a commission :)


    "Scott" <> wrote in message
    news:t%coc.3560$...
    > Hi
    >
    > We currently have a dedicated frame relay between Auckland and Wellington.

    I
    > would like to see if a dedicated VPN would work for us and if it is a
    > cheaper option.
    >
    > Our jetstream connection comes into our Auckland office and is routed to
    > Wellington through a Linux pc which allows our Wellington branch to access
    > email and the net. Mdaemon runs on our WinNT server and collects our mail
    > from our isp and distributes.
    >
    > Our application and server access is over the frame relay.
    >
    > As I understand it for a vpn to work I need to setup a separate jetstream
    > connection in our Wellington branch, get a fixed ip on the server and away
    > we go.
    >
    > My concern is we suffer a lot of micro outages from our current js
    > connection. Quite common for us to need to reset our router in the morning
    > and after the weekend.
    >
    > How secure is a vpn? what firewall provisions do we need to put in place?
    >
    > Woosh is not an option because no coverage in Wgtn for our office there.
    >
    > Can anyone recommend a firm that specialises in vpn setup and can keep the
    > explanation simple and willing to make an onsite appraisal? preferably

    with
    > a contact in Wellington who can handle the install that end.
    >
    > Still waiting to hear from Telecom's 'Office Connect'.
    >
    >
    bigmouth, May 13, 2004
    #10
  11. Scott

    steve Guest

    Enkidu wrote:
    > On Wed, 12 May 2004 12:59:41 +1200, steve
    > <> wrote:
    >
    >
    >>Scott wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>>Can anyone recommend a firm that specialises in vpn setup and can keep the
    >>>explanation simple and willing to make an onsite appraisal? preferably with
    >>>a contact in Wellington who can handle the install that end.

    >>
    >>AT&T - offices in Auckland and Wellington. They have a VPN offering
    >>that is basically plug & play.

    >
    > You mean plug and pay, Steve
    >
    > Cheers,
    >
    > Cliff


    That's the service component you're referring too. :)

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    steve, May 13, 2004
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  12. "Scott" <> wrote in message
    ><snip>
    > Woosh is not an option because no coverage in Wgtn for our office there.
    >


    Actually Woosh before they become woosh (walker wireless) had a VPN product
    that had coverage in all of the main centres, using line of sight radio
    gear... no idea about the price or if it's still available, but it was
    pretty reliable and fast... (based on AB gear not the woosh/ipwireless
    stuff). Could be worth checking their sales team out...
    news.xtra.co.nz, May 14, 2004
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