VHS to DVD

Discussion in 'NZ Computing' started by gj, Dec 11, 2005.

  1. gj

    gj Guest

    I have decide to convert some of our VHS tapes and photos to a DVD as a
    present for Christmas. I want to record the vhs tapes to files as I need
    to edit them.

    My issue is trying to get video into my PC. I am running XP with a MSI
    GeForce FX5600-VTDR256 graphics card
    (http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/vga/vga/pro_vga_detail.php?UID=502)
    that does has video input. I am running video input into the V/IN port
    on the 4to1 adapter that came with the card.

    How can I view the incoming video stream? What software can I use to
    record the input? Can I use WMP? I am happy to buy something basic-mid
    range. At present I have not been able to make WMP or Quicktime see the
    video input.

    TIA

    GJ
     
    gj, Dec 11, 2005
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  2. gj

    James West Guest

    Ulead DVD movie factory


    "gj" <> wrote in message news:439b779f$...
    >I have decide to convert some of our VHS tapes and photos to a DVD as a
    >present for Christmas. I want to record the vhs tapes to files as I need to
    >edit them.
    >
    > My issue is trying to get video into my PC. I am running XP with a MSI
    > GeForce FX5600-VTDR256 graphics card
    > (http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/vga/vga/pro_vga_detail.php?UID=502)
    > that does has video input. I am running video input into the V/IN port on
    > the 4to1 adapter that came with the card.
    >
    > How can I view the incoming video stream? What software can I use to
    > record the input? Can I use WMP? I am happy to buy something basic-mid
    > range. At present I have not been able to make WMP or Quicktime see the
    > video input.
    >
    > TIA
    >
    > GJ
     
    James West, Dec 11, 2005
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  3. gj

    XPD Guest

    "gj" <> wrote in message news:439b779f$...
    >I have decide to convert some of our VHS tapes and photos to a DVD as a
    >present for Christmas. I want to record the vhs tapes to files as I need to
    >edit them.
    >
    > My issue is trying to get video into my PC. I am running XP with a MSI
    > GeForce FX5600-VTDR256 graphics card
    > (http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/vga/vga/pro_vga_detail.php?UID=502)
    > that does has video input. I am running video input into the V/IN port on
    > the 4to1 adapter that came with the card.
    >
    > How can I view the incoming video stream? What software can I use to
    > record the input? Can I use WMP? I am happy to buy something basic-mid
    > range. At present I have not been able to make WMP or Quicktime see the
    > video input.
    >
    > TIA
    >
    > GJ


    You need something like PowerVCR - that handles capturing. Almost any TV
    tuner type software will do it.
     
    XPD, Dec 11, 2005
    #3
  4. gj

    MarkH Guest

    gj <> wrote in news:439b779f$:

    > I have decide to convert some of our VHS tapes and photos to a DVD as
    > a present for Christmas. I want to record the vhs tapes to files as I
    > need to edit them.
    >
    > My issue is trying to get video into my PC. I am running XP with a MSI
    > GeForce FX5600-VTDR256 graphics card
    > (http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/vga/vga/pro_vga_detail.php?UID=
    > 502) that does has video input. I am running video input into the V/IN
    > port on the 4to1 adapter that came with the card.
    >
    > How can I view the incoming video stream? What software can I use to
    > record the input? Can I use WMP? I am happy to buy something basic-mid
    > range. At present I have not been able to make WMP or Quicktime see
    > the video input.


    I have used VirtualDub (Freeware) for video capture with good results.



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    "The person on the other side was a young woman. Very obviously a
    young woman. There was no possible way she could have been mistaken
    for a young man in any language, especially Braille."
    Maskerade
     
    MarkH, Dec 11, 2005
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  5. gj

    E. Scrooge Guest

    "MarkH" <> wrote in message
    news:BXPmf.7753$...
    > gj <> wrote in news:439b779f$:
    >
    >> I have decide to convert some of our VHS tapes and photos to a DVD as
    >> a present for Christmas. I want to record the vhs tapes to files as I
    >> need to edit them.
    >>
    >> My issue is trying to get video into my PC. I am running XP with a MSI
    >> GeForce FX5600-VTDR256 graphics card
    >> (http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/vga/vga/pro_vga_detail.php?UID=
    >> 502) that does has video input. I am running video input into the V/IN
    >> port on the 4to1 adapter that came with the card.
    >>
    >> How can I view the incoming video stream? What software can I use to
    >> record the input? Can I use WMP? I am happy to buy something basic-mid
    >> range. At present I have not been able to make WMP or Quicktime see
    >> the video input.

    >
    > I have used VirtualDub (Freeware) for video capture with good results.
    >
    >
    >
    > --
    > Mark Heyes (New Zealand)


    A very flexible program as well.
    Divx is a good compression codec to start with. Power Producer will then
    convert and burn the CD or DVD.

    E. Scrooge
     
    E. Scrooge, Dec 11, 2005
    #5
  6. gj

    GJ Guest

    MarkH and E. Scrooge, Thank you very much. Exactly what was required. I
    installed VirtualDUB and had video input immediately.

    I now just need to learn to use the program properly. I am sure there
    are some links or tutorials on the VirtualDUB website. I will have more
    of a look tomorrow.

    Thanks again.

    GJ

    E. Scrooge wrote:
    > "MarkH" <> wrote in message
    > news:BXPmf.7753$...
    >
    >>gj <> wrote in news:439b779f$:
    >>
    >>
    >>>I have decide to convert some of our VHS tapes and photos to a DVD as
    >>>a present for Christmas. I want to record the vhs tapes to files as I
    >>>need to edit them.
    >>>
    >>>My issue is trying to get video into my PC. I am running XP with a MSI
    >>>GeForce FX5600-VTDR256 graphics card
    >>>(http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/vga/vga/pro_vga_detail.php?UID=
    >>>502) that does has video input. I am running video input into the V/IN
    >>>port on the 4to1 adapter that came with the card.
    >>>
    >>>How can I view the incoming video stream? What software can I use to
    >>>record the input? Can I use WMP? I am happy to buy something basic-mid
    >>>range. At present I have not been able to make WMP or Quicktime see
    >>>the video input.

    >>
    >>I have used VirtualDub (Freeware) for video capture with good results.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>--
    >>Mark Heyes (New Zealand)

    >
    >
    > A very flexible program as well.
    > Divx is a good compression codec to start with. Power Producer will then
    > convert and burn the CD or DVD.
    >
    > E. Scrooge
    >
    >
     
    GJ, Dec 11, 2005
    #6
  7. gj

    E. Scrooge Guest

    "GJ" <> wrote in message news:...
    > MarkH and E. Scrooge, Thank you very much. Exactly what was required. I
    > installed VirtualDUB and had video input immediately.
    >
    > I now just need to learn to use the program properly. I am sure there are
    > some links or tutorials on the VirtualDUB website. I will have more of a
    > look tomorrow.
    >
    > Thanks again.
    >
    > GJ


    Set the frame rate to 25 in the capture menu settings. It's the right frame
    rate for PAL without losing many frames when using Divx.
    Don't use audio compression, or you could more frames. If you edit it
    afterwards with VD then the sound will get out of sync when converting to
    VCD.
    Power Producer is worth getting to encode and burn a CD or DVD for your DVD
    player.
    Only MS Movie Maker will let you change from the damn XP setup of NTSC over
    to PAL - which lets you see the full PAL picture in the capture screen that
    you don't see on the NTSC setting. Once done close it and open Virtual Dub
    and set up your capture settings.
    Be careful of audio recording volume. The master recording level should be
    selected in your sound settings. The volume meter in VD will show you how
    strong the recorded sound will be.

    You'll get the hang of it. The captured video should show up with file name
    "Capture".avi.

    E. Scrooge
     
    E. Scrooge, Dec 11, 2005
    #7
  8. gj

    Guest

    I would not recommend that. If you're going to making a DVD, go
    straight to MPEG2. Don't mess around with MPEG4, and especially not
    DivX (use XviD if yo want to do MPEG4). Given that MPEG2 compression is
    less processor demanding then MPEG and that even a 3 year old HD should
    be able to handle a DVD bitrate, there is absolutely no reason to waste
    time, quality etc with MPEG4.

    Admitedly, VirtualDub can't capture to MPEG2 but there are
    alternatives. Far better to take the time to do it right in the first
    instance rather then messing around with countless unnecessary, time
    consuming and quality degrading steps (it may be a VHS source but the
    question you have to ask yourself is can I either use a lower bitrate
    or get better quality if I go direct? The answer is of course yes).

    If you don't want to compress straight to MPEG2, use MJPEG or even
    uncompressed (if you have the space and your HD is fast enough)

    gj, I'm not really an expert but for this kind of advise, you should go
    to a more specialist forum. Try doom9.org for starters
     
    , Dec 11, 2005
    #8
  9. gj

    E. Scrooge Guest

    <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >I would not recommend that. If you're going to making a DVD, go
    > straight to MPEG2. Don't mess around with MPEG4, and especially not
    > DivX (use XviD if yo want to do MPEG4). Given that MPEG2 compression is
    > less processor demanding then MPEG and that even a 3 year old HD should
    > be able to handle a DVD bitrate, there is absolutely no reason to waste
    > time, quality etc with MPEG4.
    >
    > Admitedly, VirtualDub can't capture to MPEG2 but there are
    > alternatives. Far better to take the time to do it right in the first
    > instance rather then messing around with countless unnecessary, time
    > consuming and quality degrading steps (it may be a VHS source but the
    > question you have to ask yourself is can I either use a lower bitrate
    > or get better quality if I go direct? The answer is of course yes).
    >
    > If you don't want to compress straight to MPEG2, use MJPEG or even
    > uncompressed (if you have the space and your HD is fast enough)
    >
    > gj, I'm not really an expert but for this kind of advise, you should go
    > to a more specialist forum. Try doom9.org for starters


    As good as 7:1 compression with Divx is fine for me.

    VHS tapes aren't great to begin with - SVCD will make a good enough job of
    them. The very best of encoding will never make VHS tapes suddenly look
    like DVDs.

    E. Scrooge
     
    E. Scrooge, Dec 12, 2005
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