VERY GOOD COMPUTER????

Discussion in 'Computer Information' started by Paul, May 21, 2004.

  1. Paul

    Paul Guest

    What software is usually advisable to have on your computer to make sure it
    runs fast, is safe, tidy and minimizes problems? So far I have Ad-Aware,
    Spybot Search and Destroy, Zone alarm Professional, Norton Utilities, Norton
    Anti-Virus and I have XP firewall switched on. Am I doing the right things
    or should I be running anything else? I just want my computer to run as best
    as it can. What do you think?
    Paul, May 21, 2004
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    Ralph Guest

    I have Mcafee AV & Firewall as well as Adaware and never have a bit of
    problems.

    Paul wrote:
    >
    > What software is usually advisable to have on your computer to make sure it
    > runs fast, is safe, tidy and minimizes problems? So far I have Ad-Aware,
    > Spybot Search and Destroy, Zone alarm Professional, Norton Utilities, Norton
    > Anti-Virus and I have XP firewall switched on. Am I doing the right things
    > or should I be running anything else? I just want my computer to run as best
    > as it can. What do you think?
    Ralph, May 21, 2004
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  3. Paul

    HF Guest

    Be adventurous - get out more and use the Search button.Go to
    www.computerhope.com or www.tomshardware.com to start your adventures and
    then on to www.howstuffworks.com followed by www.askjeeves.com and also
    www.whatisit.com. and if you think these are windups then click on them.
    "Paul" <> wrote in message
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    >
    >
    > What software is usually advisable to have on your computer to make sure

    it
    > runs fast, is safe, tidy and minimizes problems? So far I have Ad-Aware,
    > Spybot Search and Destroy, Zone alarm Professional, Norton Utilities,

    Norton
    > Anti-Virus and I have XP firewall switched on. Am I doing the right things
    > or should I be running anything else? I just want my computer to run as

    best
    > as it can. What do you think?
    >
    >



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  4. Paul

    Global_Killa Guest

    "Paul" <> wrote in message
    news:hcorc.5506$...
    >
    >
    > What software is usually advisable to have on your computer to make sure

    it
    > runs fast, is safe, tidy and minimizes problems? So far I have Ad-Aware,
    > Spybot Search and Destroy, Zone alarm Professional, Norton Utilities,

    Norton
    > Anti-Virus and I have XP firewall switched on. Am I doing the right things
    > or should I be running anything else? I just want my computer to run as

    best
    > as it can. What do you think?


    The spyware programs that you have should do the job fine, I wouldn't use
    any of the Norton applications (just my preference, from what I have used
    and tested). Norton Utilities doesn't really offer much, and you may find it
    will create more problems than you had to begin with.

    A lot of people recommend AVG Anti-Virus software, I use Quick Heal. Always
    done the job for me, and you don't even know its running.

    I would change your firewall from Zone Alarm, I have used this and just
    didn't get along with it. I use Outpost, I have found this to be a very good
    firewall. Set the rules for the applications you want, and then select Block
    Most, the firewall doesn't bother you again and keeps your computer safe =)
    ..

    Other than that, I use System Mechanic. Just to keep my hard drive clean and
    to clean out the registry every few months.
    I also use jv16 Power Tools to clean my registry.

    Remember to use Windows own cleanup, this will get rid of any useless files
    on your hard drive.
    Defrag your hard drive about once a month if your computer has heavy use. I
    find that this helps to speed things up. I perform a scan disk every month
    aswell, just to make sure everything is fine.

    A lot of people are saying that Diskeep is good for defragging, but I didn't
    find this. Maybe worth a look if people are talking about it.
    I found that it hangs my computer when it try's to defrag big files (700+ mb
    files such as disk images, movies, etc).

    Some people say that RAM optimizer programs help speed things up. But
    everyone that I've tried so far, after a while of use, I think it slows my
    computer down, and doesn't help.
    The only use I have found for them is when you leave your computer
    downloading, etc, for a long period of time. They stop your machine from
    running out of virtual memory.
    But when you are actively using the computer, I wouldn't recommended having
    one running.

    Hope this helped,

    --
    Global_Killa
    "You're a victim of the rules you live by!"

    http://punkthenation.tk
    Global_Killa, May 21, 2004
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  5. Paul

    HonestJohn Guest

    "Paul" <> wrote in message
    news:hcorc.5506$...
    >
    >
    > What software is usually advisable to have on your computer to make sure

    it
    > runs fast, is safe, tidy and minimizes problems? So far I have Ad-Aware,
    > Spybot Search and Destroy, Zone alarm Professional, Norton Utilities,

    Norton
    > Anti-Virus and I have XP firewall switched on. Am I doing the right things
    > or should I be running anything else? I just want my computer to run as

    best
    > as it can. What do you think?
    >

    Run Defrag reguarly if your hard drive is badly defragmented.

    Programs and processes running in the background can be a big problem, too.
    Disable
    any programs that launch with Windows, that you are not using. You really
    only need your firewall, virus checker and any must-have utilities, the rest
    are almost certainly sapping your memory and CPU power. With a freeware
    utility like MaxMem, which you can download
    from:http://www.analogx.com/contents/download/system/maxmem.htm
    you can keep an eye on your PC's memory usage, and free
    up lost memory.

    Also, the XP firewall is a good first level of defence and should foil most
    attempts to infiltrate your PC from the outside but it offers no protection
    against malicious spyware or adware programs on your PC.

    ZoneAlarm (www.zonelabs.com) and Agnitum Outpost
    (http://www.agnitum.com/products/outpost/), both do an excellent job as a
    more powerful firewall, to protect the hijacking of your Internet connection
    and sending private or personal data from your computer.
    HonestJohn, May 21, 2004
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  6. Paul

    Night_Seer Guest

    Global_Killa wrote:
    > "Paul" <> wrote in message
    > news:hcorc.5506$...
    >>
    >>
    >> What software is usually advisable to have on your computer to make
    >> sure it runs fast, is safe, tidy and minimizes problems? So far I
    >> have Ad-Aware, Spybot Search and Destroy, Zone alarm Professional,
    >> Norton Utilities, Norton Anti-Virus and I have XP firewall switched
    >> on. Am I doing the right things or should I be running anything
    >> else? I just want my computer to run as best as it can. What do you
    >> think?

    >
    > The spyware programs that you have should do the job fine, I wouldn't
    > use any of the Norton applications (just my preference, from what I
    > have used and tested). Norton Utilities doesn't really offer much,
    > and you may find it will create more problems than you had to begin
    > with.
    >


    It is my preference also...Norton has screwed to many things up before. I
    use PcCillin, and only had one problem which tech support walked me
    completely through and did everything they could to fix it. It comes with a
    firewall these days, but I uninstall it because it is pretty much useless.

    > A lot of people recommend AVG Anti-Virus software, I use Quick Heal.
    > Always done the job for me, and you don't even know its running.
    >


    Another good free AV program is Avast, which I use on different computers.
    Avast can be set up to update automatically so all it does is notify you
    that its been updated. With AVG you have to go through a few clicks to get
    it to update. This might be better for non techie coputer users.

    > I would change your firewall from Zone Alarm, I have used this and
    > just didn't get along with it. I use Outpost, I have found this to be
    > a very good firewall. Set the rules for the applications you want,
    > and then select Block Most, the firewall doesn't bother you again and
    > keeps your computer safe =) .
    >


    I agree I used Zone Alarm of r a year or two and it progressively got worse
    for me, usually with specific programs, plus it just got more and more
    bloated as it was upgraded. I ended up switching to Kerio Personal
    Firewall, and I really do love this firewall, because not only does it tell
    you about traffic on your computer, but it also lets you know when one
    program is trying to run another, which is good for preventing trojans and
    viruses. I wouldn't recomend it to a novice though as it brings a lot more
    pop-ups about whats going on with your system than most people will
    understand. A good free firewall that I recomend is Sygate Personal
    firewall. This will protect incoming and outgoing traffic and isn't such a
    hog.

    > Other than that, I use System Mechanic. Just to keep my hard drive
    > clean and to clean out the registry every few months.
    > I also use jv16 Power Tools to clean my registry.
    >
    > Remember to use Windows own cleanup, this will get rid of any useless
    > files on your hard drive.
    > Defrag your hard drive about once a month if your computer has heavy
    > use. I find that this helps to speed things up. I perform a scan disk
    > every month aswell, just to make sure everything is fine.
    >
    > A lot of people are saying that Diskeep is good for defragging, but I
    > didn't find this. Maybe worth a look if people are talking about it.
    > I found that it hangs my computer when it try's to defrag big files
    > (700+ mb files such as disk images, movies, etc).
    >
    > Some people say that RAM optimizer programs help speed things up. But
    > everyone that I've tried so far, after a while of use, I think it
    > slows my computer down, and doesn't help.
    > The only use I have found for them is when you leave your computer
    > downloading, etc, for a long period of time. They stop your machine
    > from running out of virtual memory.
    > But when you are actively using the computer, I wouldn't recommended
    > having one running.
    >
    > Hope this helped,


    One last thing I like to use is a system startup alert. I can't think of
    the name of the program ATM, but its a tiny little program (I really mean
    tiny) that you never know is running until any other program tries to
    register itself in any startup proces. It lets you know that this program
    is doing this, and asks you if its ok or to prevent it.

    --
    Night_Seer
    Night_Seer, May 21, 2004
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  7. Paul

    Stuart Guest

    Paul wrote:
    > What software is usually advisable to have on your computer to make sure it
    > runs fast, is safe, tidy and minimizes problems? So far I have Ad-Aware,
    > Spybot Search and Destroy, Zone alarm Professional, Norton Utilities, Norton
    > Anti-Virus and I have XP firewall switched on. Am I doing the right things
    > or should I be running anything else? I just want my computer to run as best
    > as it can. What do you think?


    Turn the XP firewall off and use ZoneAlarm, if they are both running
    together then there could be conflicts.

    Stuart
    Stuart, May 21, 2004
    #7
  8. Paul

    Global_Killa Guest

    "Night_Seer" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Global_Killa wrote:
    > > "Paul" <> wrote in message
    > > news:hcorc.5506$...
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> What software is usually advisable to have on your computer to make
    > >> sure it runs fast, is safe, tidy and minimizes problems? So far I
    > >> have Ad-Aware, Spybot Search and Destroy, Zone alarm Professional,
    > >> Norton Utilities, Norton Anti-Virus and I have XP firewall switched
    > >> on. Am I doing the right things or should I be running anything
    > >> else? I just want my computer to run as best as it can. What do you
    > >> think?

    > >
    > > The spyware programs that you have should do the job fine, I wouldn't
    > > use any of the Norton applications (just my preference, from what I
    > > have used and tested). Norton Utilities doesn't really offer much,
    > > and you may find it will create more problems than you had to begin
    > > with.
    > >

    >
    > It is my preference also...Norton has screwed to many things up before. I
    > use PcCillin, and only had one problem which tech support walked me
    > completely through and did everything they could to fix it. It comes with

    a
    > firewall these days, but I uninstall it because it is pretty much useless.
    >
    > > A lot of people recommend AVG Anti-Virus software, I use Quick Heal.
    > > Always done the job for me, and you don't even know its running.
    > >

    >
    > Another good free AV program is Avast, which I use on different computers.
    > Avast can be set up to update automatically so all it does is notify you
    > that its been updated. With AVG you have to go through a few clicks to

    get
    > it to update. This might be better for non techie coputer users.
    >


    Quick Heal also allows auto update, you set how often you want it to update.
    I have mine set to every 6 hours.


    > > I would change your firewall from Zone Alarm, I have used this and
    > > just didn't get along with it. I use Outpost, I have found this to be
    > > a very good firewall. Set the rules for the applications you want,
    > > and then select Block Most, the firewall doesn't bother you again and
    > > keeps your computer safe =) .
    > >

    >
    > I agree I used Zone Alarm of r a year or two and it progressively got

    worse
    > for me, usually with specific programs, plus it just got more and more
    > bloated as it was upgraded. I ended up switching to Kerio Personal
    > Firewall, and I really do love this firewall, because not only does it

    tell
    > you about traffic on your computer, but it also lets you know when one
    > program is trying to run another, which is good for preventing trojans and
    > viruses. I wouldn't recomend it to a novice though as it brings a lot

    more
    > pop-ups about whats going on with your system than most people will
    > understand. A good free firewall that I recomend is Sygate Personal
    > firewall. This will protect incoming and outgoing traffic and isn't such

    a
    > hog.


    Outpost firewall shows you a lot of information about the programs that are
    using your Internet connection. And comes with plugins that allow you to
    block ads on websites, and other things.


    > > Other than that, I use System Mechanic. Just to keep my hard drive
    > > clean and to clean out the registry every few months.
    > > I also use jv16 Power Tools to clean my registry.
    > >
    > > Remember to use Windows own cleanup, this will get rid of any useless
    > > files on your hard drive.
    > > Defrag your hard drive about once a month if your computer has heavy
    > > use. I find that this helps to speed things up. I perform a scan disk
    > > every month aswell, just to make sure everything is fine.
    > >
    > > A lot of people are saying that Diskeep is good for defragging, but I
    > > didn't find this. Maybe worth a look if people are talking about it.
    > > I found that it hangs my computer when it try's to defrag big files
    > > (700+ mb files such as disk images, movies, etc).
    > >
    > > Some people say that RAM optimizer programs help speed things up. But
    > > everyone that I've tried so far, after a while of use, I think it
    > > slows my computer down, and doesn't help.
    > > The only use I have found for them is when you leave your computer
    > > downloading, etc, for a long period of time. They stop your machine
    > > from running out of virtual memory.
    > > But when you are actively using the computer, I wouldn't recommended
    > > having one running.
    > >
    > > Hope this helped,

    >
    > One last thing I like to use is a system startup alert. I can't think of
    > the name of the program ATM, but its a tiny little program (I really mean
    > tiny) that you never know is running until any other program tries to
    > register itself in any startup proces. It lets you know that this program
    > is doing this, and asks you if its ok or to prevent it.


    Quick Heal anti-virus does this for me. If something new is added to start
    with Windows, it will ask if you want to allow it or delete it from the
    startup list.


    > --
    > Night_Seer
    Global_Killa, May 21, 2004
    #8
  9. Paul

    ProfGene Guest

    Make sure you scandisk and defrag at least once a week because a fragmented
    hard drive if left alone can cause serious problems.
    "Paul" <> wrote in message
    news:hcorc.5506$...
    >
    >
    > What software is usually advisable to have on your computer to make sure

    it
    > runs fast, is safe, tidy and minimizes problems? So far I have Ad-Aware,
    > Spybot Search and Destroy, Zone alarm Professional, Norton Utilities,

    Norton
    > Anti-Virus and I have XP firewall switched on. Am I doing the right things
    > or should I be running anything else? I just want my computer to run as

    best
    > as it can. What do you think?
    >
    >
    ProfGene, May 22, 2004
    #9
  10. Paul

    Lloyd Jones Guest

    When I was running Win 98 I used Norton Utilities 2001 and that fixed every
    problem I ever had but it's not compatible with XP and every one says that
    Norton 2004 is a load of BS. Does any one know if system mechanic is any
    good before I buy it?

    LJ
    Lloyd Jones, May 22, 2004
    #10
  11. Paul

    Jim Berwick Guest

    "Lloyd Jones" <@yahoo.com> wrote in news:c8o5up$7eo$:

    > Does any one know if system mechanic is any
    > good before I buy it?
    >


    NU 2001 is trash also. There is no mechanic program that is worth it's
    weight.
    Jim Berwick, May 22, 2004
    #11
  12. Paul

    Lloyd Jones Guest

    2001 is not trash, what are you basis this on? is it because it couldn't
    fix one particular problem you had.

    LJ
    Lloyd Jones, May 22, 2004
    #12
  13. Paul

    Thor Guest

    Well, I would agree with Jim, because in the 8 years I've been working on
    PCs for a living, I've found that in general NU (any version) causes more
    problems that it fixes. You shouldn't need such bloatware utilities if you
    just use the tools that come with windows to keep your harddrive
    maintenenced (defrag, scandisk, disk cleanup wizard) and use a decent
    antivirus program, and do an occasional spyware scan. There is nothing in NU
    that is essential for computers, and no compelling reason to have it's load
    of crap resident components running in the background hogging resources and
    memory all the time (which just increase the odds of a crash or conflict).
    Norton Internet Security (any version) is just as bad, if not worse, and NAV
    2004 is a bug-ridden piece of trash.




    ...
    "Lloyd Jones" <@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:c8obug$8pr$...
    > 2001 is not trash, what are you basis this on? is it because it couldn't
    > fix one particular problem you had.
    >
    > LJ
    >
    >
    Thor, May 22, 2004
    #13
  14. Paul

    Lloyd Jones Guest

    When you install NU 2001 you have a option to have it running in the
    background or not, as for NIS its a good firewall but I also have ZoneAlarm
    Pro 4.5 running.

    ZoneAlarm 4.5 Phones home without you knowing but you can disable that by
    chamging a few registry entries.

    LJ
    Lloyd Jones, May 23, 2004
    #14
  15. Paul

    Trent© Guest

    On Sat, 22 May 2004 17:00:55 -0400, "Thor" <> wrote:

    >Well, I would agree with Jim, because in the 8 years I've been working on
    >PCs for a living, I've found that in general NU (any version) causes more
    >problems that it fixes.


    Not ANY version! Peter's original stuff was generally excellent. And
    some of it still works!! lol

    > You shouldn't need such bloatware utilities if you
    >just use the tools that come with windows to keep your harddrive
    >maintenenced (defrag, scandisk, disk cleanup wizard) and use a decent
    >antivirus program, and do an occasional spyware scan. There is nothing in NU
    >that is essential for computers, and no compelling reason to have it's load
    >of crap resident components running in the background hogging resources and
    >memory all the time (which just increase the odds of a crash or conflict).
    >Norton Internet Security (any version) is just as bad, if not worse, and NAV
    >2004 is a bug-ridden piece of trash.


    Norton's AV stuff has ALWAYS been junk!

    I just got done with a machine that had 6 trojans and 4 other virii on
    it...that Norton didn't even know was there. EZ Trust found them and
    deleted them with hardly a problem.

    The only bear was win32.mersting.b I had a HELL of a time gettin'
    that one to go away. lol

    I wound up uninstalling NIS and NAV...and everything ran well after
    that.

    Personally, I hope Norton stuff stays around for a long time. I need
    the money!


    Have a nice week...

    Trent©

    Follow Joan Rivers' example --- get pre-embalmed!
    Trent©, May 23, 2004
    #15
  16. Paul

    Trent© Guest

    On Fri, 21 May 2004 16:16:15 +0100, "Global_Killa"
    <> wrote:

    >I would change your firewall from Zone Alarm, I have used this and just
    >didn't get along with it. I use Outpost, I have found this to be a very good
    >firewall. Set the rules for the applications you want, and then select Block
    >Most, the firewall doesn't bother you again and keeps your computer safe =)


    Kerio Personal Firewall is good also...and pretty simple.


    Have a nice week...

    Trent©

    Follow Joan Rivers' example --- get pre-embalmed!
    Trent©, May 23, 2004
    #16
  17. Paul

    bearman Guest

    "Trent©" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > On Sat, 22 May 2004 17:00:55 -0400, "Thor" <> wrote:
    >
    > >Well, I would agree with Jim, because in the 8 years I've been working on
    > >PCs for a living, I've found that in general NU (any version) causes more
    > >problems that it fixes.

    >
    > Not ANY version! Peter's original stuff was generally excellent. And
    > some of it still works!! lol
    >
    > > You shouldn't need such bloatware utilities if you
    > >just use the tools that come with windows to keep your harddrive
    > >maintenenced (defrag, scandisk, disk cleanup wizard) and use a decent
    > >antivirus program, and do an occasional spyware scan. There is nothing in

    NU
    > >that is essential for computers, and no compelling reason to have it's

    load
    > >of crap resident components running in the background hogging resources

    and
    > >memory all the time (which just increase the odds of a crash or

    conflict).
    > >Norton Internet Security (any version) is just as bad, if not worse, and

    NAV
    > >2004 is a bug-ridden piece of trash.

    >
    > Norton's AV stuff has ALWAYS been junk!
    >
    > I just got done with a machine that had 6 trojans and 4 other virii on
    > it...that Norton didn't even know was there. EZ Trust found them and
    > deleted them with hardly a problem.
    >
    > The only bear was win32.mersting.b I had a HELL of a time gettin'
    > that one to go away. lol
    >
    > I wound up uninstalling NIS and NAV...and everything ran well after
    > that.
    >
    > Personally, I hope Norton stuff stays around for a long time. I need
    > the money!
    >
    >
    > Have a nice week...
    >
    > Trent©
    >
    > Follow Joan Rivers' example --- get pre-embalmed!


    The original Norton Utilities (earlies 80s) was a great program. Things
    turned to shit about the time Symantec took over. NAV 2004 just plain
    sucks, at least for my Win98SE computer. Slowed everything down a bunch and
    took forever to do a LiveUpdate. Uninstalled it and am now using AVG.

    Bearman
    bearman, May 23, 2004
    #17
  18. Paul

    Thor Guest

    "Trent©" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > On Sat, 22 May 2004 17:00:55 -0400, "Thor" <> wrote:
    >
    > >Well, I would agree with Jim, because in the 8 years I've been working on
    > >PCs for a living, I've found that in general NU (any version) causes more
    > >problems that it fixes.

    >
    > Not ANY version! Peter's original stuff was generally excellent. And
    > some of it still works!! lol


    Well, let me clarify, any version since the first Win95-specific version. I
    agree the DOS stuff was fine.

    >
    > > You shouldn't need such bloatware utilities if you
    > >just use the tools that come with windows to keep your harddrive
    > >maintenenced (defrag, scandisk, disk cleanup wizard) and use a decent
    > >antivirus program, and do an occasional spyware scan. There is nothing in

    NU
    > >that is essential for computers, and no compelling reason to have it's

    load
    > >of crap resident components running in the background hogging resources

    and
    > >memory all the time (which just increase the odds of a crash or

    conflict).
    > >Norton Internet Security (any version) is just as bad, if not worse, and

    NAV
    > >2004 is a bug-ridden piece of trash.

    >
    > Norton's AV stuff has ALWAYS been junk!
    >
    > I just got done with a machine that had 6 trojans and 4 other virii on
    > it...that Norton didn't even know was there. EZ Trust found them and
    > deleted them with hardly a problem.


    I use the business version E-trust. It's great, but CA has dealt dialup
    users a raw deal in the last few months by setting their FTP update server
    to timeout early on slow connections. The net effect is that people with a
    slow dialup connection virtually never get the automatic updates. Broadband
    users never have a problem. Pretty pathetic that their server can't even let
    someone with a 28.8 connection download a 600k update file without timing
    out before completion. Really has me steamed, because many of my customers
    that have E-Trust also use dialup.

    >
    > The only bear was win32.mersting.b I had a HELL of a time gettin'
    > that one to go away. lol
    >
    > I wound up uninstalling NIS and NAV...and everything ran well after
    > that.


    I have found NAV 2K1, 2K2, and 2K3 trouble-free for the most part, but 2K4
    is a goddamn nightmare.
    Thor, May 23, 2004
    #18
  19. Paul

    Thor Guest

    "Lloyd Jones" <@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:c8orhp$khf$...
    > When you install NU 2001 you have a option to have it running in the
    > background or not, as for NIS its a good firewall but I also have

    ZoneAlarm
    > Pro 4.5 running.


    Yes you can do that, but it still doesn't mitigate the fact that NU is utter
    crap. Disabling the background tasks is only a marginal improvement in the
    situation. Like spraypainting a turd a more agreeable color.
    Thor, May 23, 2004
    #19
  20. Paul

    Lloyd Jones Guest

    I haven't tried NU 2002 up-wards but NU 2001 was great it fixed every
    problem I had on Win 98, the newer versions might be rubbish but NU 2001 is
    a good prog. So what software do you recommend to fix problem on XP except
    the progs that come with it scan disk etc.?

    LJ
    Lloyd Jones, May 23, 2004
    #20
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