USPS??

Discussion in 'Computer Support' started by pops, Mar 22, 2010.

  1. pops

    pops Guest

    The US of A is supposedly the foremost country in the world, however, I
    tell you from the bottom of my heart, your fucking USPS postal service
    is the fucking worst in the entire fucking world, I am still fucking
    waiting after 3 weeks, and apparently the fucking thing was sitting on
    the post office floor somewhere in california. Ive decided to leave the
    fucking thing there and get a refund.
     
    pops, Mar 22, 2010
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  2. pops

    OldGringo38 Guest

    , In The Beginning God Created The Heavens And Earth, Then I Added My
    Two Cents To The pops Post:
    > The US of A is supposedly the foremost country in the world, however,
    > I tell you from the bottom of my heart, your fucking USPS postal
    > service is the fucking worst in the entire fucking world, I am still
    > fucking waiting after 3 weeks, and apparently the fucking thing was
    > sitting on the post office floor somewhere in california. Ive decided
    > to leave the fucking thing there and get a refund.

    Complaint department is down the road a piece.

    --
    Old Gringo
    Just West Of Nowhere
    Enjoy Life And Live It To Its Fullest
    http://www.NuBoy-Industries.com
     
    OldGringo38, Mar 22, 2010
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  3. pops

    Mike Easter Guest

    pops wrote:

    <snip whinge where a Brit is complaining about some kind of unstated
    USPS shipping problem>

    Presumably you ordered something from a US shipper and something went
    wrong in the process - delaying shipment. How do you know if the
    problem was indeed with the USPS or with something in how the shipment
    was handled, such as addressed, by the shipper?

    Here's a gateway^1 to the USPS international shipping pages and a link
    to resources^2 for instructions for intnt'l shipping and address
    instructions and access to an international mail manual.

    ^1 http://www.usps.com/international/welcome.htm
    ^2 http://www.usps.com/international/intlresourcecenter.htm
    International Resource Center

    If you look that over, you might be able to figure out what went wrong,
    if you also know how the shipper went about trying to do it.

    --
    Mike Easter
     
    Mike Easter, Mar 22, 2010
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  4. pops

    OldGringo38 Guest

    , In The Beginning God Created The Heavens And Earth, Then I Added My
    Two Cents To The pops Post:
    > The US of A is supposedly the foremost country in the world, however,
    > I tell you from the bottom of my heart, your fucking USPS postal
    > service is the fucking worst in the entire fucking world, I am still
    > fucking waiting after 3 weeks, and apparently the fucking thing was
    > sitting on the post office floor somewhere in california. Ive decided
    > to leave the fucking thing there and get a refund.

    Complaint department is down the road a piece.
    PS: You could have ordered direct from China.
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    Old Gringo
    Just West Of Nowhere
    Enjoy Life And Live It To Its Fullest
    http://www.NuBoy-Industries.com
     
    OldGringo38, Mar 22, 2010
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  5. pops

    Mike Easter Guest

    OldGringo38 wrote:

    > PS: You could have ordered direct from China.


    Ha!

    I just received a fedex shipment ordered from a reseller and
    manufacturer whose business offices are in SoCal southern CA and whose
    distribution centers are all over the US.

    This is about a UPS battery. Their own product didn't fit the UPS (we
    were both surprised; it should have) so they sent me a replacement not
    made by their company and the replacement company headquarters are in my
    home town.

    That company's webpage sez their products are sold in 70 countries all
    over the world and their webpage shows a picture of their plastic
    molding company (the SLA sealedleadacid battery is in a plastic molded
    case) in Tijuana MX, also not so far away. Also distribution center
    pics in England and France.

    My battery sez 'Made in China'.

    Later today I'll be going to WalMart and Fry's. Guess where all that
    stuff comes from.

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    Mike Easter, Mar 22, 2010
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  6. pops

    TKM Guest

    "pops" <> wrote in message
    news:X7Npn.381938$2...
    > The US of A is supposedly the foremost country in the world, however, I
    > tell you from the bottom of my heart, your fucking USPS postal service is
    > the fucking worst in the entire fucking world, I am still fucking waiting
    > after 3 weeks, and apparently the fucking thing was sitting on the post
    > office floor somewhere in california. Ive decided to leave the fucking
    > thing there and get a refund.


    When the USPS is 100%, they'll let us know, I'm sure.

    Ever mailed anything from overseas?

    TKM
     
    TKM, Mar 22, 2010
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  7. pops

    NotMe Guest

    "pops" <> wrote in message
    news:X7Npn.381938$2...
    > The US of A is supposedly the foremost country in the world, however, I
    > tell you from the bottom of my heart, your fucking USPS postal service
    > is the fucking worst in the entire fucking world, I am still fucking
    > waiting after 3 weeks, and apparently the fucking thing was sitting on
    > the post office floor somewhere in California. Ive decided to leave the
    > fucking thing there and get a refund.


    Part of the problem may be with the USPS, the rest may be with special
    operations started by UPS, FEDEX, etc. where they pick up from the vendor
    and transmit to the USPS for delivery. USPS postal inspectors data reflect
    a good portion of those items never make it to USPS.

    In my investigations, a result of losing too many package or having too many
    package take too long to be delivered: The USPS upper manament is in the
    micro-give-a-sh|t mode and any complaints are bumped down to the bottom
    where the worker bees have no ability to answer much less address the
    questions and problems.

    An aside the USPS tracking system is a joke. I typically don't get data
    until a week AFTER the package arrives at the destination if them.

    Currently all my purchase orders reflect that the vendor is not to use USPS
    or any carrier that interfaces with the USPS. If they do the PO is void and
    risk of loss is totally on their end.
     
    NotMe, Mar 22, 2010
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  8. pops

    OldGringo38 Guest

    , In The Beginning God Created The Heavens And Earth, Then I Added My
    Two Cents To The Mike Easter Post:
    > OldGringo38 wrote:
    >
    >> PS: You could have ordered direct from China.

    >
    > Ha!
    >
    > I just received a fedex shipment ordered from a reseller and
    > manufacturer whose business offices are in SoCal southern CA and
    > whose distribution centers are all over the US.
    >
    > This is about a UPS battery. Their own product didn't fit the UPS (we
    > were both surprised; it should have) so they sent me a replacement
    > not made by their company and the replacement company headquarters
    > are in my home town.
    >
    > That company's webpage sez their products are sold in 70 countries
    > all over the world and their webpage shows a picture of their plastic
    > molding company (the SLA sealedleadacid battery is in a plastic
    > molded case) in Tijuana MX, also not so far away. Also distribution
    > center pics in England and France.
    >
    > My battery sez 'Made in China'.
    >
    > Later today I'll be going to WalMart and Fry's. Guess where all that
    > stuff comes from.
    >

    lol Not sure how to describe that, but were F@$#%^ no matter how you
    look at it. <g>

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    Old Gringo
    Just West Of Nowhere
    Enjoy Life And Live It To Its Fullest
    http://www.NuBoy-Industries.com
     
    OldGringo38, Mar 22, 2010
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  9. pops

    joevan Guest

    On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 16:44:39 +0000, pops <> wrote:

    >The US of A is supposedly the foremost country in the world, however, I
    >tell you from the bottom of my heart, your fucking USPS postal service
    >is the fucking worst in the entire fucking world, I am still fucking
    >waiting after 3 weeks, and apparently the fucking thing was sitting on
    >the post office floor somewhere in california. Ive decided to leave the
    >fucking thing there and get a refund.

    They delayed so long one of my orders for a sata usb hookup unit that
    I called and had another sent at no cost. A week later the original
    arrived so I have a spare. The company said not to return any as it
    was not worth the cost.
     
    joevan, Mar 22, 2010
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  10. pops

    Jordon Guest

    pops wrote:
    > The US of A is supposedly the foremost country in the world,


    Generally, the word foremost comes with some type of qualifier
    like foremost mechanic, foremost race car driver, etc. Have
    you heard we are the foremost in everything? I know we're not
    foremost in health care.

    > however, I
    > tell you from the bottom of my heart, your fucking USPS postal service
    > is the fucking worst in the entire fucking world,


    Really, worse than Dumfuckistan?

    > I am still fucking
    > waiting after 3 weeks, and apparently the fucking thing was sitting on
    > the post office floor somewhere in california.


    So, someone told you it was at a post office, in California,
    and it was sitting on the floor. Did they tell you which post
    office? And why it's sitting on the floor? And why it's not
    moving in your direction, wherever that is?

    > Ive decided to leave the
    > fucking thing there and get a refund.


    From the place you bought it from? Not likely?

    This is 24hoursupport.helpdesk. Is there something we can help
    you with? Maybe Dan C can help you.
     
    Jordon, Mar 22, 2010
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  11. pops

    Mike Easter Guest

    NotMe wrote:

    > Currently all my purchase orders reflect that the vendor is not to use USPS
    > or any carrier that interfaces with the USPS. If they do the PO is void and
    > risk of loss is totally on their end.


    Personally, there are a great many items that I order that I would
    rather be shipped by USPS because it gets to me signficantly faster and
    more cheaply.

    When all other things are equal and I'm choosing which vendor to buy
    from, if one of my vendor/shipper options is willing to use USPS, I will
    choose that one instead of the ones which won't/can't and which insist
    on something like Fedex or UPS or the equivalent.

    Those items are often shipped USPS priority with a delivery confirmation.


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    Mike Easter
     
    Mike Easter, Mar 22, 2010
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  12. pops

    NotMe Guest

    "Mike Easter" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > NotMe wrote:
    >
    >> Currently all my purchase orders reflect that the vendor is not to use
    >> USPS or any carrier that interfaces with the USPS. If they do the PO is
    >> void and risk of loss is totally on their end.

    >
    > Personally, there are a great many items that I order that I would rather
    > be shipped by USPS because it gets to me significantly faster and more
    > cheaply.
    >
    > When all other things are equal and I'm choosing which vendor to buy from,
    > if one of my vendor/shipper options is willing to use USPS, I will choose
    > that one instead of the ones which won't/can't and which insist on
    > something like Fedex or UPS or the equivalent.
    >
    > Those items are often shipped USPS priority with a delivery confirmation.


    Obviously works for you but I'm a bit tired for fighting over
    late/disappeared shipments. I'm also tired of having to pay twice for
    outbound shipments that USPS can't find. (USPS won't start looking till 6
    weeks has passed)

    That said I will accommodate clients that want USPS or one of their
    derivatives but only with the clear, documented, understanding that the
    shipment is FOB shipping point for outbound shipments. For those shipping
    to me it's their responsibility 100% until the shipment is on my receiving
    dock and verified as complete.

    As to FEDEX and to a lesser degree UPS: many times those companies will make
    deals with the shipper (for volume) that are both faster and cheaper than
    USPS. Added advantage their tracking systems work, real time.

    As example I've been able to track and meet up with a UPS shipment (ground)
    close by when there was a change in the delivery requirement. Even with
    priority shipping and tracking, USPS has no idea where the package may be or
    when it might show up.
     
    NotMe, Mar 22, 2010
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  13. pops

    joevan Guest

    On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 17:54:28 -0400, Manatee Memories
    <> wrote:

    >On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 11:59:05 -0500, OldGringo38
    ><> wrote, by way of
    ><ho87ke$t7d$-september.org>, in 24hoursupport.helpdesk
    >-->::
    >
    >>, In The Beginning God Created The Heavens And Earth, Then I Added My
    >>Two Cents To The pops Post:
    >>> The US of A is supposedly the foremost country in the world, however,
    >>> I tell you from the bottom of my heart, your fucking USPS postal
    >>> service is the fucking worst in the entire fucking world, I am still
    >>> fucking waiting after 3 weeks, and apparently the fucking thing was
    >>> sitting on the post office floor somewhere in california. Ive decided
    >>> to leave the fucking thing there and get a refund.

    >>
    >>Complaint department is down the road a piece.

    >
    >The OP should ask for Helen Waite.

    I worked in a local bakery and soda fountain shop during highschool
    years. Great times. That would have been late 50's and there was a
    sign hanging over the brownie, and donut glass counter that read.
    Helen Waite is our credit manager,
    If you want credit, go to helen waite.
     
    joevan, Mar 22, 2010
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  14. pops

    joevan Guest

    On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 17:03:06 -0500, "NotMe" <> wrote:

    >
    >"Mike Easter" <> wrote in message
    >news:...
    >> NotMe wrote:
    >>
    >>> Currently all my purchase orders reflect that the vendor is not to use
    >>> USPS or any carrier that interfaces with the USPS. If they do the PO is
    >>> void and risk of loss is totally on their end.

    >>
    >> Personally, there are a great many items that I order that I would rather
    >> be shipped by USPS because it gets to me significantly faster and more
    >> cheaply.
    >>
    >> When all other things are equal and I'm choosing which vendor to buy from,
    >> if one of my vendor/shipper options is willing to use USPS, I will choose
    >> that one instead of the ones which won't/can't and which insist on
    >> something like Fedex or UPS or the equivalent.
    >>
    >> Those items are often shipped USPS priority with a delivery confirmation.

    >
    >Obviously works for you but I'm a bit tired for fighting over
    >late/disappeared shipments. I'm also tired of having to pay twice for
    >outbound shipments that USPS can't find. (USPS won't start looking till 6
    >weeks has passed)
    >
    >That said I will accommodate clients that want USPS or one of their
    >derivatives but only with the clear, documented, understanding that the
    >shipment is FOB shipping point for outbound shipments. For those shipping
    >to me it's their responsibility 100% until the shipment is on my receiving
    >dock and verified as complete.
    >
    >As to FEDEX and to a lesser degree UPS: many times those companies will make
    >deals with the shipper (for volume) that are both faster and cheaper than
    >USPS. Added advantage their tracking systems work, real time.
    >
    >As example I've been able to track and meet up with a UPS shipment (ground)
    >close by when there was a change in the delivery requirement. Even with
    >priority shipping and tracking, USPS has no idea where the package may be or
    >when it might show up.
    >
    >

    I agree with this post. I have had similar experiences.
     
    joevan, Mar 22, 2010
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  15. pops

    Mike Easter Guest

    NotMe wrote:
    > "Mike Easter"


    >> Those items are often shipped USPS priority with a delivery confirmation.


    > As to FEDEX and to a lesser degree UPS: many times those companies will make
    > deals with the shipper (for volume) that are both faster and cheaper than
    > USPS.


    Yes. Fedex and UPS are much more accommodating to the shipper; come
    pick their stuff up. However, the rates are higher which are passed on
    to the customer/purchaser in my world.

    I understand why the shipper likes fedex/ups. Also, the buyer is the
    one who wants the item to get there faster (without excess expense).
    The shipper wants the convenience of fedex/ups policies.

    > Added advantage their tracking systems work, real time.


    I agree that the fedex/ups tracking works much more consistently than
    does USPS. I don't know what the USPS problem is. Perhaps their
    scanners aren't properly integrated with the larger system in as
    sophisticated manner as the fedex/ups is.

    > As example I've been able to track and meet up with a UPS shipment (ground)
    > close by when there was a change in the delivery requirement. Even with
    > priority shipping and tracking, USPS has no idea where the package may be or
    > when it might show up.


    The USPS tracking is not as comprehensive or as 'good' - dependable. It
    needs to be better for some of their products.



    --
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    Mike Easter, Mar 22, 2010
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  16. pops

    doS Guest

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    "pops" <> wrote in message
    news:X7Npn.381938$2...
    > The US of A is supposedly the foremost country in the world, however, I
    > tell you from the bottom of my heart, your fucking USPS postal service is
    > the fucking worst in the entire fucking world, I am still fucking waiting
    > after 3 weeks, and apparently the fucking thing was sitting on the post
    > office floor somewhere in california. Ive decided to leave the fucking
    > thing there and get a refund.
     
    doS, Mar 22, 2010
    #16
  17. pops

    NotMe Guest

    "Mike Easter" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > NotMe wrote:
    >> "Mike Easter"

    >
    >>> Those items are often shipped USPS priority with a delivery
    >>> confirmation.

    >
    >> As to FEDEX and to a lesser degree UPS: many times those companies will
    >> make deals with the shipper (for volume) that are both faster and cheaper
    >> than USPS.

    >
    > Yes. Fedex and UPS are much more accommodating to the shipper; come pick
    > their stuff up. However, the rates are higher which are passed on to the
    > customer/purchaser in my world.


    I'm told by vendors that have volume shipments that use both that any
    shipment of 1# or more automatically goes by FEDEX or UPS and the cost for
    those items is often signifantly less than USPS.

    This is in line with my pervious experiance on the shipping side as a volume
    shipper. Hard reality it does not take many lost shipments to turn the USPS
    savings into a money sink.

    >
    > I understand why the shipper likes fedex/ups. Also, the buyer is the one
    > who wants the item to get there faster (without excess expense). The
    > shipper wants the convenience of fedex/ups policies.
    >
    > > Added advantage their tracking systems work, real time.

    >
    > I agree that the fedex/ups tracking works much more consistently than does
    > USPS. I don't know what the USPS problem is. Perhaps their scanners
    > aren't properly integrated with the larger system in as sophisticated
    > manner as the fedex/ups is.
    >
    >> As example I've been able to track and meet up with a UPS shipment
    >> (ground) close by when there was a change in the delivery requirement.
    >> Even with priority shipping and tracking, USPS has no idea where the
    >> package may be or when it might show up.

    >
    > The USPS tracking is not as comprehensive or as 'good' - dependable. It
    > needs to be better for some of their products.


    I would lay the problems directly on the desk of USPS upper management as
    they obviously don't care.

    All my correspondence to higher ups (including the Postmaster and the Postal
    Inspector) have been sent down stream to worker bees that do not have the
    authority to effectively address the problems.

    I've had mail and shipments from adjacent post offices late by weeks. I've
    not tried tracking within one post office but that exercise might be
    enlightening but even so to what end?

    I get a grin & giggle out of the USPS commercials that say "If it fit's, it
    ships" I always want to ask but if it ships will it arrive?
     
    NotMe, Mar 22, 2010
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  18. pops

    chuckcar Guest

    "TKM" <> wrote in
    news:ho8dtk$3b8$-september.org:

    >
    > "pops" <> wrote in message
    > news:X7Npn.381938$2...
    >> The US of A is supposedly the foremost country in the world, however,
    >> I tell you from the bottom of my heart, your fucking USPS postal
    >> service is the fucking worst in the entire fucking world, I am still
    >> fucking waiting after 3 weeks, and apparently the fucking thing was
    >> sitting on the post office floor somewhere in california. Ive decided
    >> to leave the fucking thing there and get a refund.

    >
    > When the USPS is 100%, they'll let us know, I'm sure.
    >
    > Ever mailed anything from overseas?
    >

    That *was* the case here. He's obviously not a US citizen.


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    chuckcar, Mar 23, 2010
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  19. pops

    chuckcar Guest

    pops <> wrote in
    news:X7Npn.381938$2:

    > The US of A is supposedly the foremost country in the world,


    Really? what do you base that on? I has the largest GNP of any country,
    but that's it.

    > however, I
    > tell you from the bottom of my heart, your fucking USPS postal service
    > is the fucking worst in the entire fucking world,


    Not mine. Usenet is *world* wide. Remember that whenever you post here.

    > I am still fucking
    > waiting after 3 weeks, and apparently the fucking thing was sitting on
    > the post office floor somewhere in california. Ive decided to leave
    > the fucking thing there and get a refund.
    >

    And you're telling us this why?


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    chuckcar, Mar 23, 2010
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