Updates for Firefox and Thunderbird

Discussion in 'Firefox' started by Keith Lee, Apr 24, 2006.

  1. Keith Lee

    Keith Lee Guest

    All:
    I have set both Firefox 1.5 and Thunderbird 1.5 so that they
    automatically update under both Windows and Linux. They do so under
    Windows but not under Mandrake Linux 10.2 (Mandriva Linux 2005). What is
    it that doesn't allow updates under Linux?

    Keith
    Keith Lee, Apr 24, 2006
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  2. Keith Lee

    David Mathog Guest

    Keith Lee wrote:
    > All:
    > I have set both Firefox 1.5 and Thunderbird 1.5 so that they
    > automatically update under both Windows and Linux. They do so under
    > Windows but not under Mandrake Linux 10.2 (Mandriva Linux 2005). What is
    > it that doesn't allow updates under Linux?


    Hard to say what's going on from that limited info. So let's guess the
    most likely point of failure: file protection problems. For instance,
    apps were installed with "root" ownership and you tried to update from a
    different account. Seems like the most obvious candidate since it's not
    a great idea to run Gnome or KDE as root, yet at least Firefox must be
    running as root for the update to work.

    Regards,

    David Mathog
    David Mathog, Apr 24, 2006
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  3. Keith Lee

    chris Guest

    Keith Lee wrote:

    > All:
    > I have set both Firefox 1.5 and Thunderbird 1.5 so that they
    > automatically update under both Windows and Linux. They do so under
    > Windows but not under Mandrake Linux 10.2 (Mandriva Linux 2005). What is
    > it that doesn't allow updates under Linux?
    >
    > Keith


    You'll probably find that it's a "permissions" issue - Linux doesn't
    generally allow installation of software without root privilege! In the
    Windows world, everyone is an "administrator" by default, so software just
    installs itself - hence all the virus, trojan and other malware.

    Chris
    chris, Apr 24, 2006
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  4. Keith Lee

    gwtc Guest

    Keith Lee wrote:

    > All:
    > I have set both Firefox 1.5 and Thunderbird 1.5 so that they
    > automatically update under both Windows and Linux. They do so under
    > Windows but not under Mandrake Linux 10.2 (Mandriva Linux 2005). What is
    > it that doesn't allow updates under Linux?
    >
    > Keith

    I never did like the update feature. Sometimes you have to wait a
    week or two before anything happens. Any ways, you can always
    download from the source:

    for TB: ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/thunderbird/releases/
    for FF: ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/

    --
    Things to Ponder about: If the professor on Gilligan's Island can make
    a radio out of a coconut, why can't he fix a hole in a boat?
    gwtc, Apr 24, 2006
    #4
  5. On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 07:47:26 -0700, Keith Lee wrote:

    > I have set both Firefox 1.5 and Thunderbird 1.5 so that they
    > automatically update under both Windows and Linux. They do so under
    > Windows but not under Mandrake Linux 10.2 (Mandriva Linux 2005). What is
    > it that doesn't allow updates under Linux?


    Depends -- are you using an RPM version of them or the official versions
    from Mozilla? Any RPM version likely won't match the signature of the
    official version (Mandriva's versions included with 2006 don't, 2005 was
    probably the same), so the Mozilla site won't provide updates to them.

    --
    Ian Merrithew - ADM Systems Engineering
    ian.merrithew "at" ieee.org
    Ian Merrithew, Apr 24, 2006
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  6. Keith Lee

    Gordon Guest

    On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 08:41:49 -0700, David Mathog wrote:

    > Keith Lee wrote:
    >> All:
    >> I have set both Firefox 1.5 and Thunderbird 1.5 so that they
    >> automatically update under both Windows and Linux. They do so under
    >> Windows but not under Mandrake Linux 10.2 (Mandriva Linux 2005). What is
    >> it that doesn't allow updates under Linux?

    >
    > Hard to say what's going on from that limited info. So let's guess the
    > most likely point of failure: file protection problems. For instance,
    > apps were installed with "root" ownership and you tried to update from a
    > different account. Seems like the most obvious candidate since it's not
    > a great idea to run Gnome or KDE as root, yet at least Firefox must be
    > running as root for the update to work.


    I have FF and Thunderbird installed in my home dir and the updates work
    just fine without root previliges.
    Gordon, Apr 25, 2006
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  7. Keith Lee

    Evo Guest

    Keith Lee wrote:

    > All:
    > I have set both Firefox 1.5 and Thunderbird 1.5 so that they
    > automatically update under both Windows and Linux. They do so under
    > Windows but not under Mandrake Linux 10.2 (Mandriva Linux 2005). What is
    > it that doesn't allow updates under Linux?
    >
    > Keith

    Why would anyone in their right mind want an auto update to install on their
    computer? I can see windblows allowing it. Hell they allow everything to
    invade the box. I would advise against any auto update on any OS.

    RV
    --
    "You can lead them to LINUX
    but you can't make them THINK"
    Evo, Apr 25, 2006
    #7
  8. Keith Lee

    Whiskers Guest

    On 2006-04-24, Gordon <> wrote:
    > On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 08:41:49 -0700, David Mathog wrote:
    >
    >> Keith Lee wrote:
    >>> All:
    >>> I have set both Firefox 1.5 and Thunderbird 1.5 so that they
    >>> automatically update under both Windows and Linux. They do so under
    >>> Windows but not under Mandrake Linux 10.2 (Mandriva Linux 2005). What is
    >>> it that doesn't allow updates under Linux?

    >>
    >> Hard to say what's going on from that limited info. So let's guess the
    >> most likely point of failure: file protection problems. For instance,
    >> apps were installed with "root" ownership and you tried to update from a
    >> different account. Seems like the most obvious candidate since it's not
    >> a great idea to run Gnome or KDE as root, yet at least Firefox must be
    >> running as root for the update to work.

    >
    > I have FF and Thunderbird installed in my home dir and the updates work
    > just fine without root previliges.


    That's because you installed them only for your user, not for the whole
    system. No-one else who uses your system with their own log-in will be
    able to see or use your Firefox or Thunderbird (unless you have set the
    permissions to let them share your personal installation).

    --
    -- ^^^^^^^^^^
    -- Whiskers
    -- ~~~~~~~~~~
    Whiskers, Apr 25, 2006
    #8
  9. Keith Lee

    RaMRod Guest

    Keith Lee wrote:
    > All:
    > I have set both Firefox 1.5 and Thunderbird 1.5 so that they
    > automatically update under both Windows and Linux. They do so under
    > Windows but not under Mandrake Linux 10.2 (Mandriva Linux 2005). What is
    > it that doesn't allow updates under Linux?
    >
    > Keith


    My experience is completely opposite; Firefox on Windows never prompted
    me for program update(I found out about it from web news) and I had to
    check for extensions updates individually, whereas on Linux it was all
    done in one fell swoop and what's more it only needed to download and
    apply internally a small(~600kB) update to bring it up to 1.5.0.2,
    opposed to the full Windows installer download. I've always run
    Firefox/Thunderbird from a tarball unpacked to home dir and it's been a
    breeze(except for themes and extensions that keep getting disabled for
    incompatibility with every new Firefox release).

    --
    RLU #407952
    RaMRod, Apr 27, 2006
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