Updates are really annoying

Discussion in 'Windows 64bit' started by Jack's stuff, Jul 16, 2010.

  1. Jack's stuff

    Jack's stuff Guest

    Boy it is really getting to be a pain-in-the-'you-know-what' to keep getting
    all these d---n updates each week..

    How could Microsoft have that many holes in its operating system????

    Each time my computer downloads the updates it takes a long, long time and
    then the computer shuts down and restarts.

    After that, in most cases there is a complete slowdown with my system and
    lasts for a day or two before it comes back to normal.. What the devil is
    happening? It is really annoying...

    I have a Vista Ultimate 64bit OS, 6GB memory and usually an 8 to 20MB fast
    throughput.

    Is this happening with Win7 as well? Really frustrating... Glad Microsoft
    didn't manufacture cars or airplanes....
     
    Jack's stuff, Jul 16, 2010
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  2. It's a situation we'll all have to put up with until they can find some
    software engineers that are absolutely perfect and don't make any
    mistakes at all in their coding. Based on the assets available in the
    world currently, I don't think this will happen anytime in the near future!

    Of course, if you're perfectly faultless you could go to work for
    Microsoft and eliminate any of these faults from occurring in the first
    place!

    Where have you found any automobiles or airplanes that were built
    perfectly without any defects at all?


    On 2010-07-16 14:21, Jack's stuff wrote:
    > Boy it is really getting to be a pain-in-the-'you-know-what' to keep
    > getting all these d---n updates each week..
    >
    > How could Microsoft have that many holes in its operating system????
    >
    > Each time my computer downloads the updates it takes a long, long time
    > and then the computer shuts down and restarts.
    >
    > After that, in most cases there is a complete slowdown with my system
    > and lasts for a day or two before it comes back to normal.. What the
    > devil is happening? It is really annoying...
    >
    > I have a Vista Ultimate 64bit OS, 6GB memory and usually an 8 to 20MB
    > fast throughput.
    >
    > Is this happening with Win7 as well? Really frustrating... Glad
    > Microsoft didn't manufacture cars or airplanes....
     
    Bobby Johnson, Jul 16, 2010
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  3. If you open the Windows Update window, and click Change settings, you can
    have updates set to download, but install them when you want.
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    Andre
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    MS-MVP Windows Desktop Experience


    "Jack's stuff" <> wrote in message
    news:Oy$...
    > Boy it is really getting to be a pain-in-the-'you-know-what' to keep
    > getting all these d---n updates each week..
    >
    > How could Microsoft have that many holes in its operating system????
    >
    > Each time my computer downloads the updates it takes a long, long time and
    > then the computer shuts down and restarts.
    >
    > After that, in most cases there is a complete slowdown with my system and
    > lasts for a day or two before it comes back to normal.. What the devil is
    > happening? It is really annoying...
    >
    > I have a Vista Ultimate 64bit OS, 6GB memory and usually an 8 to 20MB fast
    > throughput.
    >
    > Is this happening with Win7 as well? Really frustrating... Glad Microsoft
    > didn't manufacture cars or airplanes....
     
    Andre Da Costa [Extended64], Jul 16, 2010
    #3
  4. Jack's stuff wrote:
    > Boy it is really getting to be a pain-in-the-'you-know-what' to
    > keep getting all these d---n updates each week..
    >
    > How could Microsoft have that many holes in its operating system????
    >
    > Each time my computer downloads the updates it takes a long, long
    > time and then the computer shuts down and restarts.
    >
    > After that, in most cases there is a complete slowdown with my
    > system and lasts for a day or two before it comes back to normal..
    > What the devil is happening? It is really annoying...
    >
    > I have a Vista Ultimate 64bit OS, 6GB memory and usually an 8 to
    > 20MB fast throughput.
    >
    > Is this happening with Win7 as well? Really frustrating... Glad
    > Microsoft didn't manufacture cars or airplanes....


    Set it to manual and choose when you want to update.

    If you are doing things so well - you wouldn't need the updates anyway - you
    would have the system protected and working fine anyway, right. ;-)

    --
    Shenan Stanley
    MS-MVP
    --
    How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
    http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
     
    Shenan Stanley, Jul 16, 2010
    #4
  5. My mother's computer has been malfunctioning because of the updates as
    well...

    It keeps endlessly downloading and it never completes...

    It totally slows down the computer.

    I set windows updates to off... a solution does not seem available.

    Also on my own system I always have it off which is a very good thing.

    Then when I feel the need I update my system....

    At least once per two months.

    Bye,
    Skybuck.
     
    Skybuck Flying, Jul 17, 2010
    #5
  6. Jack's stuff wrote:
    > Boy it is really getting to be a pain-in-the-'you-know-what' to
    > keep getting all these d---n updates each week..
    >
    > How could Microsoft have that many holes in its operating system????
    >
    > Each time my computer downloads the updates it takes a long, long
    > time and then the computer shuts down and restarts.
    >
    > After that, in most cases there is a complete slowdown with my
    > system and lasts for a day or two before it comes back to normal..
    > What the devil is happening? It is really annoying...
    >
    > I have a Vista Ultimate 64bit OS, 6GB memory and usually an 8 to
    > 20MB fast throughput.
    >
    > Is this happening with Win7 as well? Really frustrating... Glad
    > Microsoft didn't manufacture cars or airplanes....


    Skybuck Flying wrote:
    > My mother's computer has been malfunctioning because of the updates
    > as well...
    >
    > It keeps endlessly downloading and it never completes...
    >
    > It totally slows down the computer.
    >
    > I set windows updates to off... a solution does not seem available.
    >
    > Also on my own system I always have it off which is a very good
    > thing.
    > Then when I feel the need I update my system....
    >
    > At least once per two months.


    I would have to say that if a specific computer (out of the many
    thousands/millions) has trouble with updates - the trouble is not the
    updates in the majority of the cases - but something specific to computer in
    question.

    In other words...

    "Jack's Stuff" issue is more likely with the computer in question (age, junk
    installed, poor maintenance, incompatible hardware/software, etc) than the
    updates themselves. If it was the updates - the problem would be universal.

    "Skybuck Flying" issues (including the mother's system) is more likely with
    the computer in question (age, junk installed, poor maintenance,
    incompatible hardware/software, etc) than the updates themselves. If it was
    the updates - the problem would be universal.

    Not saying the updates are without flaws - it does happen. Also sometimes
    if it is a choice between a given update and a certain function of the
    computer - the function will win out. Manual updating is a fine solution -
    for those willing to take on the responsibility.

    --
    Shenan Stanley
    MS-MVP
    --
    How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
    http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
     
    Shenan Stanley, Jul 17, 2010
    #6
  7. Jack's stuff

    Helroy Guest

    "Skybuck Flying" <> wrote in message
    news:617dc$4c41c6e1$54190f09$1.nb.home.nl...
    > My mother's computer has been malfunctioning because of the updates as
    > well...
    >
    > It keeps endlessly downloading and it never completes...
    >
    > It totally slows down the computer.
    >
    > I set windows updates to off... a solution does not seem available.
    >
    > Also on my own system I always have it off which is a very good thing.
    >
    > Then when I feel the need I update my system....
    >
    > At least once per two months.
    >
    > Bye,
    > Skybuck.
    >

    Must be related to all your fake hotmail, fake facebook and all the rest of
    fake stuff on the computer. :)

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    (\__/)
    (='.'=)
    (" )_(" )
    =====
     
    Helroy, Jul 17, 2010
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  8. "Shenan Stanley" <> wrote in message
    news:%...
    > Jack's stuff wrote:
    >> Boy it is really getting to be a pain-in-the-'you-know-what' to
    >> keep getting all these d---n updates each week..
    >>
    >> How could Microsoft have that many holes in its operating system????
    >>
    >> Each time my computer downloads the updates it takes a long, long
    >> time and then the computer shuts down and restarts.
    >>
    >> After that, in most cases there is a complete slowdown with my
    >> system and lasts for a day or two before it comes back to normal..
    >> What the devil is happening? It is really annoying...
    >>
    >> I have a Vista Ultimate 64bit OS, 6GB memory and usually an 8 to
    >> 20MB fast throughput.
    >>
    >> Is this happening with Win7 as well? Really frustrating... Glad
    >> Microsoft didn't manufacture cars or airplanes....

    >
    > Skybuck Flying wrote:
    >> My mother's computer has been malfunctioning because of the updates
    >> as well...
    >>
    >> It keeps endlessly downloading and it never completes...
    >>
    >> It totally slows down the computer.
    >>
    >> I set windows updates to off... a solution does not seem available.
    >>
    >> Also on my own system I always have it off which is a very good
    >> thing.
    >> Then when I feel the need I update my system....
    >>
    >> At least once per two months.

    >
    > I would have to say that if a specific computer (out of the many
    > thousands/millions) has trouble with updates - the trouble is not the
    > updates in the majority of the cases - but something specific to computer
    > in question.
    >
    > In other words...
    >
    > "Jack's Stuff" issue is more likely with the computer in question (age,
    > junk installed, poor maintenance, incompatible hardware/software, etc)
    > than the updates themselves. If it was the updates - the problem would be
    > universal.
    >
    > "Skybuck Flying" issues (including the mother's system) is more likely
    > with the computer in question (age, junk installed, poor maintenance,
    > incompatible hardware/software, etc) than the updates themselves. If it
    > was the updates - the problem would be universal.
    >
    > Not saying the updates are without flaws - it does happen. Also sometimes
    > if it is a choice between a given update and a certain function of the
    > computer - the function will win out. Manual updating is a fine
    > solution - for those willing to take on the responsibility.


    The mother computer is used by average day people... and automatic updates
    were always on... the problems the computer is experiencing is rapported by
    enough other people on the internet, so it is something that is occuring at
    a more regular pace...

    How much only Microsoft knows...

    My own computer is functioning ok mostly thanks to automatic updates being
    off, were the on the computer would have been toasted two times already.

    I don't know what happened to the mother computer... it might be because of
    a anti virus product that was deinstalled a long time ago... I doubt it
    though... the problems started occuring with windows updates... maybe skype
    had something to do with it... maybe unsecure websites thanks to bug in
    internet explorer...

    Maybe because of hyves.nl... maybe because average day people tried to
    install stuff... maybe because of the kids.

    But the malfunctions I have seen on the mother computer ain't that normal...
    they are pretty weird... seems more like a Microsoft mess-up job... perhaps
    even on purpose ! ;) :)

    Perhaps installing sp3 manually might fix the computer if sp3 is available
    for xp home edition...

    Bye,
    Skybuck.
     
    Skybuck Flying, Jul 18, 2010
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  9. "Helroy" <invalid@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
    news:i1sj0j$6s4$-september.org...
    >
    > "Skybuck Flying" <> wrote in message
    > news:617dc$4c41c6e1$54190f09$1.nb.home.nl...
    >> My mother's computer has been malfunctioning because of the updates as
    >> well...
    >>
    >> It keeps endlessly downloading and it never completes...
    >>
    >> It totally slows down the computer.
    >>
    >> I set windows updates to off... a solution does not seem available.
    >>
    >> Also on my own system I always have it off which is a very good thing.
    >>
    >> Then when I feel the need I update my system....
    >>
    >> At least once per two months.
    >>
    >> Bye,
    >> Skybuck.
    >>

    > Must be related to all your fake hotmail, fake facebook and all the rest
    > of fake stuff on the computer. :)


    Nope, never used facebook on it, and hotmail only once...

    I have little to do with it so me thinks.

    And the irony is that the family members had less rights than me the
    administrator.

    The only scenerio I can think of is that maybe the family members got
    frustrated trying
    to install new software and somehow wrecked it...

    I suspect flash has something to do with it though...

    Bye,
    Skybuck.
     
    Skybuck Flying, Jul 18, 2010
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    roj Guest

    "Skybuck Flying" <> wrote in message
    news:ab325$4c42886c$54190f09$1.nb.home.nl...
    snip
    >>> It totally slows down the computer.
    >>>
    >>> I set windows updates to off... a solution does not seem available.
    >>>
    >>> Also on my own system I always have it off which is a very good thing.
    >>>
    >>> Then when I feel the need I update my system....
    >>>
    >>> At least once per two months.
    >>>
    >>> Bye,
    >>> Skybuck.

    snip
    -------------------------------------------------------
    I originally had Updates set on Auto but like you, found they went
    horribly wrong. When up-dated from Explorer/Tools/Windows Update
    they came down nicely and installed correctly. The other Auto Update
    required several System Restores AND Anti-virus {Kaspersky]
    reset/restore database, because it too got messed up by Auto Update.
    roj
     
    roj, Jul 19, 2010
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  11. Jack's stuff

    SomeOldGuy Guest

    "Jack's stuff" wrote:

    > Boy it is really getting to be a pain-in-the-'you-know-what' to keep getting
    > all these d---n updates each week..
    >
    > How could Microsoft have that many holes in its operating system????
    >
    > Each time my computer downloads the updates it takes a long, long time and
    > then the computer shuts down and restarts.
    >
    > After that, in most cases there is a complete slowdown with my system and
    > lasts for a day or two before it comes back to normal.. What the devil is
    > happening? It is really annoying...
    >
    > I have a Vista Ultimate 64bit OS, 6GB memory and usually an 8 to 20MB fast
    > throughput.
    >
    > Is this happening with Win7 as well? Really frustrating... Glad Microsoft
    > didn't manufacture cars or airplanes....
    >


    I'm a novice with Windows, but have been doing embedded systems software for
    over 30 years on various platforms. My lab has numerous computers that run
    Windows, and I run Windows at home on some systems. However, I am by no means
    a Windows expert.

    It is my experience that all operating systems are "full of holes", and that
    because of the huge number of Windows users, the vast majority not being
    computer experts, the "holes" (bugs, etc) in Windows are found and reported
    more often. Software for Windows is often developed by market-driven teams
    who must get the product to the shelf by some deadline set by managers, not
    developers. Bugs in that software, which can include drivers, can manifest
    odd symptoms. It's all part of a complicated situation, and if it were simple
    would have been vastly improved by now.

    To help find the root of some issues, Windows includes an "event" viewer. It
    can give good clues (and sometimes not so good clues if you don't know how to
    determine the associated software for a given CLSID, for example). There are
    many free resources on the web to help learn about these things. Here are but
    a few....
    http://www.fileresearchcenter.com/showglossaryterm.html?term=CLSID
    http://www.windows7update.com/Windows7-Event-Viewer.html
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308427/en-us

    As others suggested here, if you don't like updates you can set to notify
    only, or to download but not install.
    Good luck with your system(s).
     
    SomeOldGuy, Aug 2, 2010
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  12. On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 15:05:42 -0400, Bobby Johnson
    <> wrote:

    On 2010-07-16 14:21, Jack's stuff wrote:
    >> Boy it is really getting to be a pain-in-the-'you-know-what' to keep
    >> getting all these d---n updates each week..
    >>
    >> How could Microsoft have that many holes in its operating system????

    >
    >It's a situation we'll all have to put up with until they can find some
    >software engineers that are absolutely perfect and don't make any
    >mistakes at all in their coding. Based on the assets available in the
    >world currently, I don't think this will happen anytime in the near future!


    It is quite possible for merely human software developers to produce
    reliable and nearly bug-free software. It is also possible, with the
    right architecture, to make software updates much less invasive than
    they are now.

    In fairness to Microsoft, it is extremely difficult to develop an
    operating system that will run on all the highly varying PC hardware
    available: there are far too many possible combinations to test even a
    fraction of them.

    However, IMO there is little excuse for having lots of holes in
    services and application software which run under the OS. For too
    long Microsoft valued adding new features over reliability and there
    still is a lot of bug-filled legacy code both in Windows itself and in
    their application suites. It is far too expensive to start from
    scratch and write new reliable versions of complex software so
    Microsoft fixes problems in legacy code as they are discovered.

    Again, in fairness, Microsoft's quality control has greatly improved
    over the last decade. Unfortunately it applies only to new software
    (and new fixes to old software).

    George
     
    George Neuner, Aug 17, 2010
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