Uninstall Security Patches?

Discussion in 'Computer Support' started by cc, Aug 31, 2003.

  1. cc

    cc Guest

    Listed in my Add/Remove Programmes are a few Microsoft Security patches,
    Q823559 being one of them.
    If I uninstall them, will it uninstall the 'patch.exe' leaving my OE open to
    the vulnerabilities outlined by Microsoft or will it simply remove the
    'patch.exe' since I've already ran & installed them.

    Regards from Chris
    cc, Aug 31, 2003
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  2. cc

    why? Guest

    On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 16:20:10 +0100, cc wrote:

    >Listed in my Add/Remove Programmes are a few Microsoft Security patches,
    >Q823559 being one of them.


    >If I uninstall them, will it uninstall the 'patch.exe' leaving my OE open to


    By patch.exe do you mean the file you downloaded like q813951.exe? These
    can go, but don't remove the uninstall directories in the Windows
    directory.

    >the vulnerabilities outlined by Microsoft or will it simply remove the


    If you uninstall patches that can be uninstalled (have never done this)
    but my guess is that the files in the directory like
    c:\windows\$NtUninstallQ814033$ will be put back over the current
    version of the file.

    The *big issue* with this is that, consecutive patches install updated
    DLLs for other fixes and you don't revert to uninstalling the patch you
    want to remove but backdate any new patches. This means uninstall 1 and
    reapply the patches that were dated after that.

    For example if a patch updated ntdll.dll reversing that patch may mean
    another patch relied on the current new version and something else
    breaks, if it's a major system DLL and it version is wrong will the PC
    boot again? It's always a chance.

    >'patch.exe' since I've already ran & installed them.

    <snip>

    Maybe you should try one of the dedicated MS groups and a MVP could give
    a better answer.

    Me
    why?, Aug 31, 2003
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  3. cc

    °Mike° Guest

    Are you being serious? You actually ran the hoax "patch.exe" file?
    <Sigh!>

    Online Antivirus scanners:
    --------------------------
    http://housecall.trendmicro.com/housecall/start_corp.asp
    http://www.kaspersky.com/remoteviruschk.html
    http://security.symantec.com/sscv6/default.asp
    http://www.pandasoftware.com/activescan/activescan.asp
    http://commandondemand.com/eval/index.cfm
    http://www.ravantivirus.com/scan/ [See **]
    http://www.bitdefender.com/scan/licence.php
    http://www.pcpitstop.com/antivirus/default.asp
    http://scan.sygatetech.com/prestealthscan.html

    ** Caveat:
    http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/bugtraq/2003-07/0240.html

    Anti-virus programs:
    --------------------
    eZ Antivirus (Computer Associates)
    http://www.my-etrust.com/products/Antivirus.cfm

    Vet (Computer Associates)
    http://www.vet.com.au/html/products/index.html

    Sophos
    http://www.sophos.com/products/software/antivirus/

    KAV
    http://www.kaspersky.com/

    F-Prot
    http://www.f-prot.com/download/

    NOD32
    http://www.nod32.com/home/home.htm

    AVG
    http://www.grisoft.com/


    On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 16:20:10 +0100, in
    <eoo4b.2778$>
    cc scrawled:

    >Listed in my Add/Remove Programmes are a few Microsoft Security patches,
    >Q823559 being one of them.
    >If I uninstall them, will it uninstall the 'patch.exe' leaving my OE open to
    >the vulnerabilities outlined by Microsoft or will it simply remove the
    >'patch.exe' since I've already ran & installed them.
    >
    >Regards from Chris
    >


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    °Mike°, Aug 31, 2003
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  4. cc

    why? Guest

    On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 18:13:49 +0100, °Mike° wrote:

    Nice one, didn't know that. It's amazing what one doesn't see with a
    reasonbly well configured system and a carefully managed public mail
    addy and as a non OL/OE user.

    Just looked it up.

    >Are you being serious? You actually ran the hoax "patch.exe" file?
    ><Sigh!>
    >
    >Online Antivirus scanners:
    >--------------------------
    >http://housecall.trendmicro.com/housecall/start_corp.asp

    <snip>

    Thanks
    Me
    why?, Aug 31, 2003
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  5. cc

    °Mike° Guest

    On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 20:06:02 GMT, in
    <>
    why? scrawled:

    >
    >On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 18:13:49 +0100, °Mike° wrote:
    >
    >Nice one, didn't know that. It's amazing what one doesn't see with a
    >reasonbly well configured system and a carefully managed public mail
    >addy and as a non OL/OE user.
    >
    >Just looked it up.


    Yep, it's the Gibe or Dumaru worm.

    >>Are you being serious? You actually ran the hoax "patch.exe" file?
    >><Sigh!>
    >>
    >>Online Antivirus scanners:
    >>--------------------------
    >>http://housecall.trendmicro.com/housecall/start_corp.asp

    ><snip>
    >
    >Thanks
    >Me


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    °Mike°, Aug 31, 2003
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  6. cc

    cc Guest

    "°Mike°" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Are you being serious? You actually ran the hoax "patch.exe" file?
    > <Sigh!>


    hi mike & others reading this thread
    no, i didn't install the hoax 'patch.exe' that's currently circulating. i
    was referring to actual security updates from windows update and via bigfix.
    i posed the original question because over time MS has released numerous
    patches, updates etc and after installing any of them, they have not
    appeared in the add/remove programme list. the last few updates do appear in
    the list.

    sorry for any misunderstanding.
    chris
    cc, Aug 31, 2003
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  7. cc

    °Mike° Guest

    On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 22:52:15 +0100, in
    <Q7u4b.3029$>
    cc scrawled:

    >"°Mike°" <> wrote in message
    >news:...
    >> Are you being serious? You actually ran the hoax "patch.exe" file?
    >> <Sigh!>

    >
    >hi mike & others reading this thread
    >no, i didn't install the hoax 'patch.exe' that's currently circulating. i
    >was referring to actual security updates from windows update and via bigfix.
    >i posed the original question because over time MS has released numerous
    >patches, updates etc and after installing any of them, they have not
    >appeared in the add/remove programme list. the last few updates do appear in
    >the list.
    >
    >sorry for any misunderstanding.
    >chris


    If you uninstall the updates, you will be vulnerable. Uninstalling
    does not just remove the installer executable.

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    °Mike°, Aug 31, 2003
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  8. cc

    why? Guest

    X-No-Archive: Yes
    On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 22:52:15 +0100, cc wrote:

    >"°Mike°" <> wrote in message
    >news:...
    >> Are you being serious? You actually ran the hoax "patch.exe" file?
    >> <Sigh!>

    >
    >hi mike & others reading this thread
    >no, i didn't install the hoax 'patch.exe' that's currently circulating. i


    Bad choice of example then :)

    >was referring to actual security updates from windows update and via bigfix.
    >i posed the original question because over time MS has released numerous
    >patches, updates etc and after installing any of them, they have not
    >appeared in the add/remove programme list. the last few updates do appear in


    Some can't be removed, so they don't appear in the list, I guess. Read
    the bulletins carefully.

    www.microsoft.com/security
    on the left , the link for
    IT Professionals (TechNet)
    then
    Bulletins

    >the list.
    >


    Me
    why?, Aug 31, 2003
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