undeletable folder

Discussion in 'NZ Computing' started by Jules Winnfield, Mar 22, 2005.

  1. I have a folder on my desktop which I can't delete. I've tried deleting in
    safe mode and safe mode with command prompt using rmdir but it won't budge.
    The error message is "Cannot read from the source file or disk". It is an
    empty folder that used to contain mp3s.

    I don't think it is an issue with the folder being in use as I've closed
    down pretty much every process and program yet it still won't delete.

    Any ideas? Thanks in advance.
    Jules Winnfield, Mar 22, 2005
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  2. "Jules Winnfield" <> wrote in message
    news:NyQ%d.11817$...
    >I have a folder on my desktop which I can't delete. I've tried deleting in
    >safe mode and safe mode with command prompt using rmdir but it won't budge.
    >The error message is "Cannot read from the source file or disk". It is an
    >empty folder that used to contain mp3s.
    >
    > I don't think it is an issue with the folder being in use as I've closed
    > down pretty much every process and program yet it still won't delete.
    >
    > Any ideas? Thanks in advance.
    >


    BTW, OS is Windows XP Pro with SP2.
    Jules Winnfield, Mar 22, 2005
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  3. Jules Winnfield wrote:
    > I have a folder on my desktop which I can't delete. I've tried deleting in
    > safe mode and safe mode with command prompt using rmdir but it won't budge.
    > The error message is "Cannot read from the source file or disk". It is an
    > empty folder that used to contain mp3s.


    Can you rename it to something else, then delete it? Perhaps there are
    some weird characters in the name.

    Cheers,
    Nicholas Sherlock
    Nicholas Sherlock, Mar 22, 2005
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  4. "Nicholas Sherlock" <> wrote in message
    news:d1olqf$4r5$...
    > Jules Winnfield wrote:
    >> I have a folder on my desktop which I can't delete. I've tried deleting
    >> in safe mode and safe mode with command prompt using rmdir but it won't
    >> budge. The error message is "Cannot read from the source file or disk".
    >> It is an empty folder that used to contain mp3s.

    >
    > Can you rename it to something else, then delete it? Perhaps there are
    > some weird characters in the name.
    >
    > Cheers,
    > Nicholas Sherlock


    No, renaming it or trying to move it gives me the same error message. Looks
    like I'm stuck with it! Thanks anyway.
    Jules Winnfield, Mar 22, 2005
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  5. Jules Winnfield

    Alan Guest

    "Jules Winnfield" <> wrote in message
    news:i8S%d.11859$...
    >
    > "Nicholas Sherlock" <> wrote in message
    > news:d1olqf$4r5$...
    >> Jules Winnfield wrote:
    >>> I have a folder on my desktop which I can't delete. I've tried
    >>> deleting in safe mode and safe mode with command prompt using

    rmdir
    >>> but it won't budge. The error message is "Cannot read from the
    >>> source file or disk". It is an empty folder that used to contain
    >>> mp3s.

    >>
    >> Can you rename it to something else, then delete it? Perhaps there
    >> are some weird characters in the name.
    >>
    >> Cheers,
    >> Nicholas Sherlock

    >
    > No, renaming it or trying to move it gives me the same error

    message.
    > Looks like I'm stuck with it! Thanks anyway.


    Boot into pure DOS (boot from a floppy / CD is probably easiest) and
    delete it from there?

    You may have problems doing it that way if you've used that new
    fangled NTFS thingumy though.

    Alan.
    Alan, Mar 22, 2005
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  6. Jules Winnfield wrote:
    > "Nicholas Sherlock" <> wrote in message
    > news:d1olqf$4r5$...
    >
    >>Jules Winnfield wrote:
    >>
    >>>I have a folder on my desktop which I can't delete. I've tried deleting
    >>>in safe mode and safe mode with command prompt using rmdir but it won't
    >>>budge. The error message is "Cannot read from the source file or disk".
    >>>It is an empty folder that used to contain mp3s.

    >>
    >>Can you rename it to something else, then delete it? Perhaps there are
    >>some weird characters in the name.
    >>
    >>Cheers,
    >>Nicholas Sherlock

    >
    >
    > No, renaming it or trying to move it gives me the same error message. Looks
    > like I'm stuck with it! Thanks anyway.
    >
    >


    Probably worth a look...
    http://support.microsoft.com/?id=kb;en-us;Q320081
    Pacific Dragon, Mar 22, 2005
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  7. Jules Winnfield

    Craig Sutton Guest

    "Jules Winnfield" <> wrote in message
    news:NyQ%d.11817$...
    > I have a folder on my desktop which I can't delete. I've tried deleting in
    > safe mode and safe mode with command prompt using rmdir but it won't

    budge.
    > The error message is "Cannot read from the source file or disk". It is an
    > empty folder that used to contain mp3s.
    >
    > I don't think it is an issue with the folder being in use as I've closed
    > down pretty much every process and program yet it still won't delete.
    >
    > Any ideas? Thanks in advance.
    >
    >


    scandisk also try dropping it into another folder and deleteing that
    Craig Sutton, Mar 22, 2005
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  8. Jules Winnfield

    bambam Guest

    "Jules Winnfield" <> wrote in
    news:NyQ%d.11817$:

    > I have a folder on my desktop which I can't delete. I've tried
    > deleting in safe mode and safe mode with command prompt using rmdir
    > but it won't budge. The error message is "Cannot read from the source
    > file or disk". It is an empty folder that used to contain mp3s.
    >
    > I don't think it is an issue with the folder being in use as I've
    > closed down pretty much every process and program yet it still won't
    > delete.
    >
    > Any ideas? Thanks in advance.


    Maybe-

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    bambam, Mar 22, 2005
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  9. Jules Winnfield

    John B Guest

    "Jules Winnfield" <> wrote in message
    news:NyQ%d.11817$...
    > I have a folder on my desktop which I can't delete. I've tried deleting in
    > safe mode and safe mode with command prompt using rmdir but it won't budge.
    > The error message is "Cannot read from the source file or disk". It is an
    > empty folder that used to contain mp3s.
    >
    > I don't think it is an issue with the folder being in use as I've closed
    > down pretty much every process and program yet it still won't delete.
    >
    > Any ideas? Thanks in advance.


    Sounds like it may have some trojan or spyware files in there. Or that folder is
    referenced by spyware or trojan software.
    John B, Mar 22, 2005
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  10. "John B" <jb@sicksocialistscom> wrote in message
    news:42400e0b$...
    >
    > "Jules Winnfield" <> wrote in message
    > news:NyQ%d.11817$...
    >> I have a folder on my desktop which I can't delete. I've tried deleting
    >> in
    >> safe mode and safe mode with command prompt using rmdir but it won't
    >> budge.
    >> The error message is "Cannot read from the source file or disk". It is an
    >> empty folder that used to contain mp3s.
    >>
    >> I don't think it is an issue with the folder being in use as I've closed
    >> down pretty much every process and program yet it still won't delete.
    >>
    >> Any ideas? Thanks in advance.

    >
    > Sounds like it may have some trojan or spyware files in there. Or that
    > folder is
    > referenced by spyware or trojan software.
    >
    >


    Thanks for all the suggestions. I finally got it fixed - the only problem
    was the folder name was created with a trailing space which NTFS had trouble
    dealing with. In the end all I had to do was open a command prompt, do a dir
    /x to get the 8.3 folder name and delete it using that.

    After much googling I happened upon this page which had the simplest yet
    most effective method ...
    http://ask-leo.com/why_cant_i_delete_this_file.html
    Jules Winnfield, Mar 22, 2005
    #10
  11. Alan wrote:
    > You may have problems doing it that way if you've used that new
    > fangled NTFS thingumy though.


    new?
    Dave - Dave.net.nz, Mar 22, 2005
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  12. Jules Winnfield

    Alan Guest

    "Dave - Dave.net.nz" <> wrote in
    message news:42406f43$...
    >
    > Alan wrote:
    >> You may have problems doing it that way if you've used that new
    >> fangled NTFS thingumy though.

    >
    > new?
    >


    All things being relative.

    Alan.
    Alan, Mar 24, 2005
    #12
  13. Alan wrote:
    >>>You may have problems doing it that way if you've used that new
    >>>fangled NTFS thingumy though.


    >>new?


    > All things being relative.


    wasn't ntfs around prior to fat32?

    and yes I know were using a newer version of ntfs than originally, but
    still hardly the difference that fat16 to fat32 made.
    Dave - Dave.net.nz, Mar 24, 2005
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  14. Jules Winnfield

    Alan Guest

    "Dave - Dave.net.nz" <>
    wrote in message news:...
    >
    >>>> You may have problems doing it that way if you've used that new
    >>>> fangled NTFS thingumy though.
    >>>
    >>> new?

    >>
    >> All things being relative.

    >
    > wasn't ntfs around prior to fat32?
    >
    > and yes I know were using a newer version of ntfs than originally,

    but
    > still hardly the difference that fat16 to fat32 made.
    >


    You may well be right - my memory isn't what it used to be.

    However, there never used to be problems getting rid of files when it
    was on punched card - people just dragged it off the desktop into the
    recyle bin.

    If they changed their mind, they just retrieved it from there as long
    as it was the same day (it was always empty when the machines were
    pulled up by their bootstraps next morning).

    I don't imagine anyone ever had trouble moving something to the
    recycle bin in those days!

    Alan.
    Alan, Mar 24, 2005
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  15. In article <0ip0e.12345$>, "Alan" <> wrote:
    >"Dave - Dave.net.nz" <>
    >wrote in message news:...
    >>>>> You may have problems doing it that way if you've used that new
    >>>>> fangled NTFS thingumy though.
    >>>>
    >>>> new?
    >>>
    >>> All things being relative.

    >>
    >> wasn't ntfs around prior to fat32?
    >>
    >> and yes I know were using a newer version of ntfs than originally,

    >but
    >> still hardly the difference that fat16 to fat32 made.
    >>

    >You may well be right - my memory isn't what it used to be.
    >
    >However, there never used to be problems getting rid of files when it
    >was on punched card - people just dragged it off the desktop into the
    >recyle bin.
    >
    >If they changed their mind, they just retrieved it from there as long
    >as it was the same day (it was always empty when the machines were
    >pulled up by their bootstraps next morning).
    >
    >I don't imagine anyone ever had trouble moving something to the
    >recycle bin in those days!


    Sometimes the bin wasn't big enough for all the paper tape ? :) :)


    Bruce

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    Bruce Sinclair, Mar 24, 2005
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  16. Jules Winnfield

    Alan Guest

    "Bruce Sinclair" <>
    wrote in message news:Xvp0e.12351$...
    >
    > Sometimes the bin wasn't big enough for all the paper tape ? :) :)
    >
    > Bruce
    >


    True!

    I suspect that led to a stack overflow in the first instance.

    Alan.
    Alan, Mar 24, 2005
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  17. Jules Winnfield

    AD. Guest

    On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:56:45 +1200, Alan wrote:

    > I suspect that led to a stack overflow in the first instance.


    Is that when your stack turns into a heap?

    --
    Cheers
    Anton
    AD., Mar 24, 2005
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  18. Jules Winnfield

    Robert Cooze Guest

    Jules Winnfield wrote:
    > I have a folder on my desktop which I can't delete. I've tried deleting in
    > safe mode and safe mode with command prompt using rmdir but it won't budge.
    > The error message is "Cannot read from the source file or disk". It is an
    > empty folder that used to contain mp3s.
    >
    > I don't think it is an issue with the folder being in use as I've closed
    > down pretty much every process and program yet it still won't delete.
    >
    > Any ideas? Thanks in advance.
    >
    >

    I have seen and experenced this xp prob, in xp an in 2k some times when
    down loading or vewing or using thumnail view the permissions get mucked
    up the file can not be copied viewed or deleted I found by booting in to
    win 2kpro I could reset the permissions. then the file would behave as a
    normal file. now the silly thing was that XP could not reset the
    permissions enough. that was with a user with Administrator rites I
    haven tryed the Administrator Account.



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    Robert Cooze, Mar 24, 2005
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  19. In article <vdU%d.11880$>,
    "Jules Winnfield" <> wrote:

    >I finally got it fixed - the only problem
    >was the folder name was created with a trailing space which NTFS had trouble
    >dealing with. In the end all I had to do was open a command prompt, do a dir
    >/x to get the 8.3 folder name and delete it using that.


    Does the NT shell provide tab-completion, like bash does? That would
    filled in the correct name for you.
    Lawrence D¹Oliveiro, Mar 25, 2005
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  20. Lawrence D¹Oliveiro wrote:
    >>I finally got it fixed - the only problem
    >>was the folder name was created with a trailing space which NTFS had trouble
    >>dealing with. In the end all I had to do was open a command prompt, do a dir
    >>/x to get the 8.3 folder name and delete it using that.


    > Does the NT shell provide tab-completion, like bash does? That would
    > filled in the correct name for you.


    it does with a reg fix/hack.
    not just tab, you can use any key apparently, although tab is about the
    only one I can think of that would be appropriate.
    Dave - Dave.net.nz, Mar 26, 2005
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