TV on computer

Discussion in 'NZ Computing' started by Geopelia, Nov 16, 2012.

  1. Geopelia

    Geopelia Guest

    "Enkidu" <> wrote in message
    news:50a94bbb$...
    > On 19/11/12 00:17, Geopelia wrote:
    >> "Frank Williams" <> wrote in message
    >> news:...
    >>> On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 17:05:17 +1300, "Geopelia" <>
    >>> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>
    >>>> "geoff" <> wrote in message
    >>>> news:eek:...
    >>>>>
    >>>>> "Gordon" <> wrote in message
    >>>>> news:...
    >>>>>> On 2012-11-16, Geopelia <> wrote:
    >>>>>>> We have got to get our TV changed over with this new system.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> You can get more channels is a given bandwidth and then you can sell
    >>>>>> of
    >>>>>> the
    >>>>>> rights to the old frequencies and make money. The mobile phone folks
    >>>>>> will
    >>>>>> be
    >>>>>> in like a robbers dog.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> And you can see modern programs in full wide-screen format.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Geo, don't bother dicking about with your old TV and a decoder - get a
    >>>>> new
    >>>>> TV. I'm sure you'll be thrilled and wonder why you left is so long !
    >>>>>
    >>>>> geoff
    >>>>
    >>>> We have an excellent TV, a Loewe Cantus, and want to keep it.
    >>>> Would any other TV have such a great picture quality?
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Yes by some 200% your TV is to OLD and is not sharp at all..

    >>
    >> Everything in our place is old, including us!
    >>

    > Roger is right though. Unless it has been adjusted in those 5 years it
    > will have drifted slightly off focus. Digitals just do not do that. An
    > analog TV works by literally drawing an image with a steam of electrons.
    > Imagine trying to draw a picture with a fire hose! A digital is more like
    > a huge bank of switches.
    >
    > Cheers,
    >
    > Cliff


    I expect the TV man adjusted it with the last repair. It suddenly went black
    and made loud banging noises.
    When he took the case off a wire was loose and sparking.

    It's been fine since he fixed it. He had to cut a bit off and reattach it.

    I think it may be a lot older than 5 years. It's on its second remote and
    that seems to be wearing out now.
    Our third TV since the sixties. We saw the first Coronation Street program
    on the first black and white one.

    Geopelia
     
    Geopelia, Nov 19, 2012
    #41
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  2. Geopelia

    Geopelia Guest

    "Enkidu" <> wrote in message
    news:50a9488c$...
    > On 17/11/12 17:41, Gordon wrote:
    >> On 2012-11-17, Frank Williams <> wrote:
    >>> On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 23:59:48 +1300, "Geopelia"
    >>> <> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> It's not all that old, about 12 years.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Over 5 Years is OLD.

    >>
    >> Gosh Roger, got your marketing hat on? The question is does it work?
    >> Vintage cars still carry people from A to B.
    >>

    > So long as A and B are not too far apart.
    >
    > Cheers,
    >
    > Cliff
    >


    Some vintage cars well over 100 years old still do the London to Brighton
    run. 87.4 km
    People dress up in the clothes of those days.

    There wouldn't be many on New Zealand roads, with our mad drivers. Much too
    precious to risk!

    Here's the latest from Britain
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-20197268
    British November rain, of course!

    An ultra marathon runner is racing one of the cars. Should be a close
    finish!
    A mobility scooter might be faster.

    Geopelia
     
    Geopelia, Nov 19, 2012
    #42
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  3. Geopelia

    Geopelia Guest

    "Enkidu" <> wrote in message
    news:50a948fd$...
    > On 19/11/12 00:19, Geopelia wrote:
    >> "geoff" <> wrote in message
    >> news:...
    >>>
    >>> "Geopelia" <> wrote in message
    >>> news:k86j8g$s5p$...
    >>>>
    >>>> Thank you. The tapes are all ones I have recorded from the TV.
    >>>> Not really worth the expense of getting them saved.
    >>>>
    >>>> They were handy though to record any good programs.
    >>>>
    >>>> Geopelia
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> You can play your old tape back on a new digital TV just fine.
    >>>
    >>> geoff

    >>
    >> It's hard to find new tapes though. Countdown doesn't seem to sell them
    >> now.
    >>

    > Well, you can't buy VCRs any more.
    >
    > Cheers,
    >
    > Cliff
    >


    Probably still plenty around though.
     
    Geopelia, Nov 19, 2012
    #43
  4. On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 09:51:58 +1300, Enkidu
    <> wrote:

    >On 19/11/12 00:15, Geopelia wrote:
    >> "Richard" <> wrote in message
    >> news:k89nkc$mmr$...
    >>> On 11/18/2012 5:05 PM, Geopelia wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> We have an excellent TV, a Loewe Cantus, and want to keep it.
    >>>> Would any other TV have such a great picture quality?
    >>>
    >>> Well it is quite a small tv, so anything newer would probably be bigger so
    >>> better.

    >>
    >> I think it's 29 inch. Anything bigger would be a nuisance in our place.
    >>

    >A 30 inch digital TV would be sharper. Sharper is usually better. Also
    >any new TV will have FreeView built in.
    >
    >Cheers,
    >
    >Cliff



    To match the screen size of a CRT 4:3 29" you need to go to a 37" or
    40" or your picture will me small height wise.

    There are stacks of guides on the net on how to chose a Wide screen
    TV over a old CRT one..
     
    Frank Williams, Nov 19, 2012
    #44
  5. Geopelia

    Enkidu Guest

    On 19/11/12 15:42, Geopelia wrote:
    > "Enkidu" <> wrote in message
    > news:50a94bbb$...
    >> On 19/11/12 00:17, Geopelia wrote:
    >>> "Frank Williams" <> wrote in message
    >>> news:...
    >>>> On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 17:05:17 +1300, "Geopelia" <>
    >>>> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> "geoff" <> wrote in message
    >>>>> news:eek:...
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> "Gordon" <> wrote in message
    >>>>>> news:...
    >>>>>>> On 2012-11-16, Geopelia <> wrote:
    >>>>>>>> We have got to get our TV changed over with this new system.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> You can get more channels is a given bandwidth and then you can sell
    >>>>>>> of
    >>>>>>> the
    >>>>>>> rights to the old frequencies and make money. The mobile phone folks
    >>>>>>> will
    >>>>>>> be
    >>>>>>> in like a robbers dog.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> And you can see modern programs in full wide-screen format.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Geo, don't bother dicking about with your old TV and a decoder - get a
    >>>>>> new
    >>>>>> TV. I'm sure you'll be thrilled and wonder why you left is so long !
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> geoff
    >>>>>
    >>>>> We have an excellent TV, a Loewe Cantus, and want to keep it.
    >>>>> Would any other TV have such a great picture quality?
    >>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Yes by some 200% your TV is to OLD and is not sharp at all..
    >>>
    >>> Everything in our place is old, including us!
    >>>

    >> Roger is right though. Unless it has been adjusted in those 5 years it
    >> will have drifted slightly off focus. Digitals just do not do that. An
    >> analog TV works by literally drawing an image with a steam of electrons.
    >> Imagine trying to draw a picture with a fire hose! A digital is more like
    >> a huge bank of switches.

    >
    > I expect the TV man adjusted it with the last repair. It suddenly went black
    > and made loud banging noises.
    > When he took the case off a wire was loose and sparking.
    >

    Yep, that's standard operating procedure.
    >
    > It's been fine since he fixed it. He had to cut a bit off and reattach it.
    >
    > I think it may be a lot older than 5 years. It's on its second remote and
    > that seems to be wearing out now.
    > Our third TV since the sixties. We saw the first Coronation Street program
    > on the first black and white one.
    >

    Cheers,

    Cliff
     
    Enkidu, Nov 19, 2012
    #45
  6. Geopelia

    Enkidu Guest

    On 19/11/12 16:02, Geopelia wrote:
    > "Enkidu" <> wrote in message
    > news:50a9488c$...
    >> On 17/11/12 17:41, Gordon wrote:
    >>> On 2012-11-17, Frank Williams <> wrote:
    >>>> On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 23:59:48 +1300, "Geopelia"
    >>>> <> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> It's not all that old, about 12 years.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Over 5 Years is OLD.
    >>>
    >>> Gosh Roger, got your marketing hat on? The question is does it
    >>> work? Vintage cars still carry people from A to B.
    >>>

    >> So long as A and B are not too far apart.

    >
    > Some vintage cars well over 100 years old still do the London to
    > Brighton run. 87.4 km People dress up in the clothes of those days.
    >
    > There wouldn't be many on New Zealand roads, with our mad drivers.
    > Much too precious to risk!
    >
    > Here's the latest from Britain
    > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-20197268 British November rain,
    > of course!
    >
    > An ultra marathon runner is racing one of the cars. Should be a
    > close finish! A mobility scooter might be faster.
    >

    Cool! I used to live near Redhill and have once or twice watched the
    cars go past.

    Cheers,

    Cliff
     
    Enkidu, Nov 19, 2012
    #46
  7. On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 00:15:47 +1300, "Geopelia" <>
    wrote:

    >
    >"Richard" <> wrote in message
    >news:k89nkc$mmr$...
    >> On 11/18/2012 5:05 PM, Geopelia wrote:
    >>
    >>> We have an excellent TV, a Loewe Cantus, and want to keep it.
    >>> Would any other TV have such a great picture quality?

    >>
    >> Well it is quite a small tv, so anything newer would probably be bigger so
    >> better.

    >
    >I think it's 29 inch. Anything bigger would be a nuisance in our place.
    >




    I have just posted a Screen calculator so you can pick the correct Size

    for a 29" its 37" that's what I did but I think you will have to for a
    40" and don't get any thing else than a LG or Samsung if you wish to
    watch pictures from the USB port.

    The other Top brands only support AVI encoded videos.

    Also a ISP screen TVs kills CRT sets in every thing and see what
    power you will save

    Do not get a TV from the Warehouse as they are only LCD and have very
    bad specks.

    All decent brand TV's have ISP screens that give far better Colour and
    viewing angle..

    http://www.screenmath.com/
     
    Frank Williams, Nov 19, 2012
    #47
  8. Geopelia

    Gordon Guest

    On 2012-11-18, Enkidu <> wrote:
    >>

    > Roger is right though. Unless it has been adjusted in those 5 years it
    > will have drifted slightly off focus. Digitals just do not do that. An
    > analog TV works by literally drawing an image with a steam of electrons.


    Remember that V ad, whole lot of paint balls fired out many tubes to give a
    picture.?
     
    Gordon, Nov 19, 2012
    #48
  9. Geopelia

    Gordon Guest

    On 2012-11-18, Enkidu <> wrote:
    > On 19/11/12 00:15, Geopelia wrote:
    >> "Richard" <> wrote in message
    >> news:k89nkc$mmr$...
    >>> On 11/18/2012 5:05 PM, Geopelia wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> We have an excellent TV, a Loewe Cantus, and want to keep it.
    >>>> Would any other TV have such a great picture quality?
    >>>
    >>> Well it is quite a small tv, so anything newer would probably be bigger so
    >>> better.

    >>
    >> I think it's 29 inch. Anything bigger would be a nuisance in our place.
    >>

    > A 30 inch digital TV would be sharper. Sharper is usually better. Also
    > any new TV will have FreeView built in.
    >

    To heck with it wait until 4k TVs are around. 4 mega pixels, cf the 2 of HD.
    As the sreens get bigger we need more pixels to stay sharp.
     
    Gordon, Nov 19, 2012
    #49
  10. Geopelia

    Gordon Guest

    On 2012-11-19, Geopelia <> wrote:
    >
    > "Enkidu" <> wrote in message
    > news:50a94a6e$...
    >> On 19/11/12 00:15, Geopelia wrote:
    >>> "Richard" <> wrote in message
    >>> news:k89nkc$mmr$...
    >>>> On 11/18/2012 5:05 PM, Geopelia wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> We have an excellent TV, a Loewe Cantus, and want to keep it.
    >>>>> Would any other TV have such a great picture quality?
    >>>>
    >>>> Well it is quite a small tv, so anything newer would probably be bigger
    >>>> so
    >>>> better.
    >>>
    >>> I think it's 29 inch. Anything bigger would be a nuisance in our place.
    >>>

    >> A 30 inch digital TV would be sharper. Sharper is usually better. Also any
    >> new TV will have FreeView built in.
    >>
    >> Cheers,
    >>
    >> Cliff
    >>

    >
    > Thank you, I'll keep that in mind. What we get is up to Hubby.
    >

    If you say so ;-)
     
    Gordon, Nov 19, 2012
    #50
  11. Geopelia

    Gordon Guest

    On 2012-11-18, Geopelia <> wrote:
    >
    > "geoff" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >>
    >> "Geopelia" <> wrote in message
    >> news:k856b8$7ed$...
    >>>
    >>> We grew up before TV, so aren't so dependent on it as folks today.

    >>
    >>
    >> No, 'folks of today' (ie young folks, hardly ever watch TV. They are
    >> glued, in solitary, to their tiny laptop computer monitors. Sad. Even the
    >> social aspect of watching scheduled programmes is being lost.
    >>
    >> geoff

    >
    > That could be because of the lack of good programs. I would rather use the
    > internet than watch some of the rubbish on TV these days. There is a limit
    > to watching brainless comedies and gruesome murders (enough of those in real
    > life!).


    I trust you have seen some of the fine range of cooking shows which TV1 has
    had on.
     
    Gordon, Nov 19, 2012
    #51
  12. Geopelia

    Donchano Guest

    On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 16:03:56 +1300, "Geopelia" <>
    shouted from the highest rooftop:

    >
    >"Enkidu" <> wrote in message
    >news:50a948fd$...
    >> On 19/11/12 00:19, Geopelia wrote:
    >>> "geoff" <> wrote in message
    >>> news:...
    >>>>
    >>>> "Geopelia" <> wrote in message
    >>>> news:k86j8g$s5p$...
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Thank you. The tapes are all ones I have recorded from the TV.
    >>>>> Not really worth the expense of getting them saved.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> They were handy though to record any good programs.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Geopelia
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> You can play your old tape back on a new digital TV just fine.
    >>>>
    >>>> geoff
    >>>
    >>> It's hard to find new tapes though. Countdown doesn't seem to sell them
    >>> now.
    >>>

    >> Well, you can't buy VCRs any more.
    >>
    >> Cheers,
    >>
    >> Cliff
    >>

    >
    >Probably still plenty around though.
    >


    Our eight head VCR (that plays both PAL and NTSC is sitting just
    across from my desk at this very moment. That's because I've gone
    through the laborious process of transferring a few VHS tapes to
    digital and (the easy part) burning them onto DVDs.

    Frankly, the end result hasn't been worth the effort. But at least I
    have a record of some work I did.
     
    Donchano, Nov 19, 2012
    #52
  13. Geopelia

    Richard Guest

    On 11/19/2012 4:11 PM, Frank Williams wrote:


    > To match the screen size of a CRT 4:3 29" you need to go to a 37" or
    > 40" or your picture will me small height wise.
    >
    > There are stacks of guides on the net on how to chose a Wide screen
    > TV over a old CRT one..


    No you dont, it will equal a 24" LCD, since the 29" is a 27" picture on
    a 29" tube, and its the width that is the same, the height on a 16:9
    doesnt need to be as great as 1/4 of the 4:3 screen only ever shows
    black on it.
     
    Richard, Nov 19, 2012
    #53
  14. Geopelia

    Geopelia Guest

    "Frank Williams" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 00:15:47 +1300, "Geopelia" <>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>
    >>"Richard" <> wrote in message
    >>news:k89nkc$mmr$...
    >>> On 11/18/2012 5:05 PM, Geopelia wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> We have an excellent TV, a Loewe Cantus, and want to keep it.
    >>>> Would any other TV have such a great picture quality?
    >>>
    >>> Well it is quite a small tv, so anything newer would probably be bigger
    >>> so
    >>> better.

    >>
    >>I think it's 29 inch. Anything bigger would be a nuisance in our place.
    >>

    >
    >
    >
    > I have just posted a Screen calculator so you can pick the correct Size
    >
    > for a 29" its 37" that's what I did but I think you will have to for a
    > 40" and don't get any thing else than a LG or Samsung if you wish to
    > watch pictures from the USB port.
    >
    > The other Top brands only support AVI encoded videos.
    >
    > Also a ISP screen TVs kills CRT sets in every thing and see what
    > power you will save
    >
    > Do not get a TV from the Warehouse as they are only LCD and have very
    > bad specks.
    >
    > All decent brand TV's have ISP screens that give far better Colour and
    > viewing angle..
    >
    > http://www.screenmath.com/


    Thank you. I've saved that website.

    Of course we wouldn't buy anything like that from the Warehouse, or from
    some other big stores.
    We would go to a specialist shop with trained service people, as I would for
    computer items.

    Geopelia
     
    Geopelia, Nov 19, 2012
    #54
  15. Geopelia

    Geopelia Guest

    "Gordon" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > On 2012-11-19, Geopelia <> wrote:
    >>
    >> "Enkidu" <> wrote in message
    >> news:50a94a6e$...
    >>> On 19/11/12 00:15, Geopelia wrote:
    >>>> "Richard" <> wrote in message
    >>>> news:k89nkc$mmr$...
    >>>>> On 11/18/2012 5:05 PM, Geopelia wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> We have an excellent TV, a Loewe Cantus, and want to keep it.
    >>>>>> Would any other TV have such a great picture quality?
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Well it is quite a small tv, so anything newer would probably be
    >>>>> bigger
    >>>>> so
    >>>>> better.
    >>>>
    >>>> I think it's 29 inch. Anything bigger would be a nuisance in our place.
    >>>>
    >>> A 30 inch digital TV would be sharper. Sharper is usually better. Also
    >>> any
    >>> new TV will have FreeView built in.
    >>>
    >>> Cheers,
    >>>
    >>> Cliff
    >>>

    >>
    >> Thank you, I'll keep that in mind. What we get is up to Hubby.
    >>

    > If you say so ;-)


    He chose our present TV.
    But as there is going to be a lot of technical stuff to consider, I expect
    the TV man will suggest the most suitable items.
     
    Geopelia, Nov 19, 2012
    #55
  16. Geopelia

    Geopelia Guest

    "geoff" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >
    > "Geopelia" <> wrote in message
    > news:k8ag51$ddp$...
    >>>
    >>> Yes by some 200% your TV is to OLD and is not sharp at all..

    >>
    >> Everything in our place is old, including us!

    >
    >
    > Well, a new 37" LCD Freeview TV will make you both at least 10 years
    > younger !
    >
    > geoff
    >


    TV keeps you young.

    I can admire a gorgeous young chap on TV without worrying about the 60 year
    age gap.
     
    Geopelia, Nov 19, 2012
    #56
  17. Geopelia

    Geopelia Guest

    "Gordon" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > On 2012-11-18, Geopelia <> wrote:
    >>
    >> "geoff" <> wrote in message
    >> news:...
    >>>
    >>> "Geopelia" <> wrote in message
    >>> news:k856b8$7ed$...
    >>>>
    >>>> We grew up before TV, so aren't so dependent on it as folks today.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> No, 'folks of today' (ie young folks, hardly ever watch TV. They are
    >>> glued, in solitary, to their tiny laptop computer monitors. Sad. Even
    >>> the
    >>> social aspect of watching scheduled programmes is being lost.
    >>>
    >>> geoff

    >>
    >> That could be because of the lack of good programs. I would rather use
    >> the
    >> internet than watch some of the rubbish on TV these days. There is a
    >> limit
    >> to watching brainless comedies and gruesome murders (enough of those in
    >> real
    >> life!).

    >
    > I trust you have seen some of the fine range of cooking shows which TV1
    > has
    > had on.
    >


    Yes, we watch some of those. Masterchef is entertaining.
    But I want to see stuff I could cook myself, not fancy chef's stuff.
    The waste of good food annoys me, living on wartime rations for so long.

    Many a failed dish has ended up as a cottage pie, with frugal home cooks!
     
    Geopelia, Nov 19, 2012
    #57
  18. On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 21:24:58 +1300, Richard <> wrote:

    >On 11/19/2012 4:11 PM, Frank Williams wrote:
    >
    >
    >> To match the screen size of a CRT 4:3 29" you need to go to a 37" or
    >> 40" or your picture will me small height wise.
    >>
    >> There are stacks of guides on the net on how to chose a Wide screen
    >> TV over a old CRT one..

    >
    >No you dont, it will equal a 24" LCD, since the 29" is a 27" picture on
    >a 29" tube, and its the width that is the same, the height on a 16:9
    >doesnt need to be as great as 1/4 of the 4:3 screen only ever shows
    >black on it.



    YOU ARE COMPLETLY TOTTLY WRONG, TO MATCH THE SCREEN HIGHT WITH A 29'
    4:3 SCREEN YOU NEED TO GET A 37' 10:9 SCREEN MINIMUM.


    REAL THE ARTICLE THAT I POSTED AS ITB SEEMS YOU DONT UNDERSTAND..
     
    Frank Williams, Nov 19, 2012
    #58
  19. Geopelia

    Geopelia Guest

    "geoff" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >
    > "Geopelia" <> wrote in message
    > news:k8dcv8$j00$...
    >>
    >> "geoff" <> wrote in message
    >> news:...
    >>>
    >>> "Geopelia" <> wrote in message
    >>> news:k8ag51$ddp$...
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Yes by some 200% your TV is to OLD and is not sharp at all..
    >>>>
    >>>> Everything in our place is old, including us!
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Well, a new 37" LCD Freeview TV will make you both at least 10 years
    >>> younger !
    >>>
    >>> geoff
    >>>

    >>
    >> TV keeps you young.
    >>
    >> I can admire a gorgeous young chap on TV without worrying about the 60
    >> year age gap.

    >
    >
    > In the privacy of your own home ! ;-)
    >
    > geoff
    >


    There is an old saying that a woman is never more than eighteen in her
    heart.

    It's probably true.
    But I have never really got past the Lower Fourth!
     
    Geopelia, Nov 20, 2012
    #59
  20. In article <k8fo4b$46j$>, "Geopelia" <> wrote:
    (snip)

    >There is an old saying that a woman is never more than eighteen in her
    >heart.


    I think that's true of everyone. My brother reckons you don't get older,
    bits just start falling off. :) :)
     
    Bruce Sinclair, Nov 21, 2012
    #60
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